Reporter beaten, bloodied and robbed by a group of attackers as he covered the Ferguson protests Sun - Polidicks

[quote]Post-Dispatch reporter Paul Hampel was beaten, bloodied and robbed by a group of attackers as he covered the Ferguson protests Sunday night. Hampel said he was taking photos and videos of break-ins along West Florissant Avenue shortly before he was attacked. Suddenly, he said, he was rushed from behind. "I got swarmed, beaten down really bad," he said. The attackers punched him in the face, hit him in the head at least three times and kicked him in the back of the head when he was on the ground, Hampel said. The attackers took his phone and wallet and left. [/quote] [img]http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/13/513917c5-7ed7-5258-9eea-2e3f20758316/55c8ec838b115.image.jpg?resize=300%2C205[/img] [url]http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/post-dispatch-reporter-recovering-at-hospital-after-attack-while-covering/article_dda6baef-c506-593c-b697-5d664947e77a.html[/url]

And these fuckers yell "racism!" when the police targets them. Assholes.

Shocking - the [I]fourth[/I] Lamar thread presenting a negative image of Ferguson/BLM. Didn't a guy get banned for posting like 5 Florida Man threads in a row a few weeks back? I'm seriously unsurprised that people breaking into buildings thought that mugging the guy with the camera pointed at them would be a good idea. Ferguson's a high-crime area. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=BuffaloBill;48426023]And these fuckers yell "racism!" when the police targets them. Assholes.[/QUOTE] Who are "these fuckers?" Black people?

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069]Shocking - the [I]fourth[/I] Lamar thread presenting a negative image of Ferguson/BLM. Didn't a guy get banned for posting like 5 Florida Man threads in a row a few weeks back? I'm seriously unsurprised that people breaking into buildings thought that mugging the guy with the camera pointed at them would be a good idea. Ferguson's a high-crime area. [/QUOTE] "Florida Man" is a meme, the only point of those threads is that they involve a man in Florida. This is a multi-story event that has several articles covering different aspects of it throughout as it develops. I suppose if WW2 broke out, we would have only had one news article a week about one single event in the war? That's not how news works.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069]Who are "these fuckers?" Black people?[/QUOTE] The protesters. But no surprise you'd immediately try to label someone as racist to discredit them.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069]Who are "these fuckers?" Black people?[/QUOTE]Well [u]I[/u] think he's talking about racist BLM protestors who hate white people and cops.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48426120]The protesters. But no surprise you'd immediately try to label someone as racist to discredit them.[/QUOTE] And if he was to say 'the protesters' it would still be a pretty stupid thing to say.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069]Shocking - the [I]fourth[/I] Lamar thread presenting a negative image of Ferguson/BLM. Didn't a guy get banned for posting like 5 Florida Man threads in a row a few weeks back? [/quote] Yes, because the Ferguson riots only need 1 thread. This is a nationwide/international focus event. And you think it only needs [i]ONE[/i] thread? [QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069] I'm seriously unsurprised that people breaking into buildings thought that mugging the guy with the camera pointed at them would be a good idea. Ferguson's a high-crime area. [/quote] You may be right here, and this is an inherent risk of going into these areas. Just like someone focusing in on wars. Well, its a risk they took and understand. [QUOTE=.Isak.;48426069] Who are "these fuckers?" Black people?[/QUOTE] And now you're the racist. good job.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48426120]The protesters. But no surprise you'd immediately try to label someone as racist to discredit them.[/QUOTE] There's no sign that these people were protesters. He was filming people robbing a store, and we're supposed to be surprised when those people mug him. What makes them protesters and not local criminals? It's a city rife with crime being flooded by easy targets for robbery during a period when the police are heavily preoccupied.

[QUOTE=Octavius;48426152]And if he was to say 'the protesters' it would still be a pretty stupid thing to say.[/QUOTE]Why is that?

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48426122]Well [u]I[/u] think he's talking about racist BLM protestors who hate white people and cops.[/QUOTE] Not even going to bother responding to your lunacy. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Richard Simmons;48426173]Yes, because the Ferguson riots only need 1 thread. This is a nationwide/international focus event. And you think it only needs [i]ONE[/i] thread? You may be right here, and this is an inherent risk of going into these areas. Just like someone focusing in on wars. Well, its a risk they took and understand. And now you're the racist. good job.[/QUOTE] I'm racist? That's fucking rich. I would be okay with multiple threads being posted on this issue, but they're all unrelated from various areas across the country posted by a white supremacist who idolizes Zimmerman as a hero.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48426120]The protesters. But no surprise you'd immediately try to label someone as racist to discredit them.[/QUOTE] Discredit who? The jackass who thinks that a robbery in a poverty and crime ridden area proves institutionalized racism doesn't exist?

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;48426210]Discredit who? The jackass who thinks that a robbery in a crime ridden area proves institutionalized racism doesn't exist?[/QUOTE] You don't get it - they're all [i]thugs[/i] and they're a racist cult as bad as the KKK. You're racist if you support them. Black people need to deal with their own issues as a community and stop complaining and being so uppity. If a police officer looks at them they scream "we dindu nuffin" and shoot him, that's how all black people are. It's not racism, it's biotruths. the lunacy in these threads is killing me

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426184]Not even going to bother responding to your lunacy. [/QUOTE] You just did tho. [QUOTE=.Isak.;48426184] I'm racist? That's fucking rich. I would be okay with multiple threads being posted on this issue, but they're all unrelated from various areas across the country posted by a white supremacist who idolizes Zimmerman as a hero.[/QUOTE] Then how about you find some good news about protesters behaving like functioning citizens and post them instead of talking shit about the OP for not agreeing with you in the zimmerman case?

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426184]Not even going to bother responding to your lunacy. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] I'm racist? That's fucking rich. I would be okay with multiple threads being posted on this issue, but they're all unrelated from various areas across the country posted by a white supremacist who idolizes Zimmerman as a hero.[/QUOTE] Zimmerman was Hispanic.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426236]You don't get it - they're all [i]thugs[/i] and they're a racist cult as bad as the KKK. You're racist if you support them. Black people need to deal with their own issues as a community and stop complaining and being so uppity. If a police officer looks at them they scream "we dindu nuffin" and shoot him, that's how all black people are. It's not racism, it's biotruths. the lunacy in these threads is killing me[/QUOTE] Perhaps for the sake of your sanity, you should avoid these threads.

This Ferguson meme is getting really old.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426180]There's no sign that these people were protesters. He was filming people robbing a store, and we're supposed to be surprised when those people mug him. What makes them protesters and not local criminals? It's a city rife with crime being flooded by easy targets for robbery during a period when the police are heavily preoccupied.[/QUOTE] Who says they weren't protesters? We don't know if they were or weren't. We already had protesters who looted shops, burned buildings, attacked press, and shot at police. Protesters robbing a store isn't out of the question. [QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;48426210]Discredit who? The jackass who thinks that a robbery in a poverty and crime ridden area proves institutionalized racism doesn't exist?[/QUOTE] More unfounded personal attacks. He didn't say any of those things.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;48426301]Perhaps for the sake of your sanity, you should avoid these threads.[/QUOTE] I'm thinking I'll start doing that, especially since Lamar seems to enjoy posting these threads to get people like me worked up and to drum up disdain for a movement that is actually making strides at ending police brutality and increasing police accountability.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426431]I'm thinking I'll start doing that, especially since Lamar seems to enjoy posting these threads to get people like me worked up and to drum up disdain for a movement that is actually making strides at ending police brutality and increasing police accountability.[/QUOTE] You're literally following him to talk shit though, it's like when a preschooler has a crush and someone and doesn't understand what to do, so they annoy their crush. You could try to show the other side of the issue if you feel what he's posting is wrong. I can't honestly say BLM is has made any positive change or notions so far, it seems like it's used as an excuse for looting and racism.

Ferguson protest are great considering they are based around the death of a man who all evidence points towards was trying to kill a cop with his own weapon. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=.Isak.;48426431]I'm thinking I'll start doing that, especially since Lamar seems to enjoy posting these threads to get people like me worked up and to drum up disdain for a movement that is actually making strides at ending police brutality and increasing police accountability.[/QUOTE] Its a movement filled with disinformation. Mike Brown wasn't a victim of police brutality.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426431]I'm thinking I'll start doing that, especially since Lamar seems to enjoy posting these threads to get people like me worked up and to drum up disdain for a movement that is actually making strides at ending police brutality and increasing police accountability.[/QUOTE] Really? Because all I've heard about this whole "movement" is how some unfortunate but justified deaths occurred, and now people are going insane and destroying things for the sake of doing so. Absolutely nothing about actually doing anything productive beyond disrupting life for those who really don't deserve it, and actually preventing any form of useful policing.

[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;48426458]You're literally following him to talk shit though, it's like when a preschooler has a crush and someone and doesn't understand what to do, so they annoy their crush. You could try to show the other side of the issue if you feel what he's posting is wrong. I can't honestly say BLM is has made any positive change or notions so far, it seems like it's used as an excuse for looting and racism.[/QUOTE] My internet crashed as I was posting a reply, so I lost my post. Quickly remade what I had from memory here: I found numerous congressional bills that have been proposed that simply would not exist without BLM's influence and widespread publicity. [URL="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr2302"]Police Training and Independent Review Act of 2015[/URL], proposes federalized police training standards and mandatory independent review boards for police forces. [URL="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr3332"]Law Enforcement Torture Prevention Act of 2015[/URL], spurred on by the Chicago black site, proposes set punishments for actions like those found in the Chicago black site and heavier penalties on law enforcement for psychological and physical acts of torture. [URL="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s1610"]BALTIMORE Act[/URL], literally named after the Baltimore riots. Proposes dozens of things that BLM has campaigned for, including eliminating racial sentencing disparities, creating sanctions against police forces that routinely violate federal standards on racial profiling, increase accountability of police through body cameras and civilian oversight boards, etc. [URL="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr1810"]CADET Act[/URL], which wants to revise Uniform Crime Reports to include more details in the event of a police death or a police shooting, including details on the victim and significantly more details on the police officer, for external FBI investigations. These wouldn't exist if BLM was "an excuse for looting and rioting." Most of these have almost no chance of passing, but the fact that they were even proposed shows volumes. The fact that Bernie Sanders' new racial justice platform has been widely well-received by the BLM organization, and the fact that the BLM organization has condemned and demanded apologies from the people who stormed Sanders' stage, all show that they have succeeded massively in making police accountability and police brutality and racial profiling issues of national discourse. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Lium;48426637]Really? Because all I've heard about this whole "movement" is how some unfortunate but justified deaths occurred, and now people are going insane and destroying things for the sake of doing so. Absolutely nothing about actually doing anything productive beyond disrupting life for those who really don't deserve it, and actually preventing any form of useful policing.[/QUOTE] You're hearing from the wrong sources, then. The only death I would call particularly obviously justified would be the Michael Brown case, and probably the Antonio Martin one. Eric Garner, choked to death during an arrest over selling loose cigarettes. John Crawford III, shot in a Walmart when somebody called about a black guy with a gun - turns out he picked up a BB gun to purchase and was killed. Akai Gurley, who was killed because a scared cop shot blindly into a dark stairwell when he saw a dark figure. Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old boy who was in a park with a toy gun. Shot by officers the moment they drove up to him. Walter Scott, who was shown on video evidence being shot in the back multiple times while fleeing an officer. Freddie Gray, put into a coma and killed after a traditional "rough ride" snapped his spinal cord. People say that Freddie Gray snapped his own spine, that Walter Scott shouldn't have ran and he'd be alive, that Tamir Rice shouldn't have had such a realistic toy gun and he'd be alive... almost all of these cases are blatant.

Black Lives Matter hasn't done fucking shit. You'd have to be retarded to believe that they did. American police brutality affects [b]anybody[/b].

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48426431]I'm thinking I'll start doing that, especially since Lamar seems to enjoy posting these threads to get people like me worked up and to drum up disdain for a movement that is actually making strides at ending police brutality and increasing police accountability.[/QUOTE] I feel like I might be biting the bait here, but is posting articles all of a certain topic [I]really[/I] a shot at 'provoking' users? From what I've seen, Lamar just posts the articles. I've seen no bias from him one way or another on the piece at hand

[QUOTE=0x0000000C;48426885]Black Lives Matter hasn't done fucking shit. You'd have to be retarded to believe that they did. American police brutality affects [b]anybody[/b].[/QUOTE] I absolutely agree. I think it affects black people disproportionately more than it affects people of other races, but I agree that it's a problem for everybody and everybody should be campaigning for higher accountability and external civilian review boards. BLM honestly hasn't done much tangible stuff, but they've brought police brutality to the forefront of this next election cycle and prompted dozens of lawmakers to do what they can to promote change in law enforcement. DIRECTLY, they haven't done a whole lot. Indirectly, they've done loads. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=V3nom;48426988]I feel like I might be biting the bait here, but is posting articles all of a certain topic [I]really[/I] a shot at 'provoking' users? From what I've seen, Lamar just posts the articles. I've seen no bias from him one way or another on the piece at hand[/QUOTE] I get unnecessarily heated at threads like this. It's also aggravating for me to discuss an issue and try to change some minds in one thread, maybe get a little bit of support, and then a second thread pops up and the first page compares BLM to the KKK and people talk about how racist BLM is without ever mentioning the racism they're combating. It's very very frustrating. But yeah, I shouldn't have necessarily dug at Lamar so much - most of these are fine articles to post.

Black Lives Matter ..... Only if they're taken by someone who is non black. That's what I've gathered over the years. No one gives a shit if it's black on black. No outrage, no protests.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;48427043]I absolutely agree. I think it affects black people disproportionately more than it affects people of other races, but I agree that it's a problem for everybody and everybody should be campaigning for higher accountability and external civilian review boards.[/QUOTE] I think the problem between police and black people is part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Black people live in poor neighborhoods, poor people commit crime, police commit extra resources to high crime areas, and the cycle continues. Racist police are also obviously a problem, but in a theoretically racially-ignorant police force, they'd still book more black people than white people due crime in the area. Police aren't the main problem, the largest underlying problem in my opinion is the poverty-stricken families stuck in these neighborhoods, going to underfunded schools, getting trapped in low paying jobs, and never being able to leave or do anything greater. We need to improve the education and economic situations, as well as the law enforcement situation.

Ok that's fucking it. These fuckers have gone to far now. I don't care about the issues that sparked this, these folks are now beating up random people for the hell of it now. Change takes forever, but we need to stop this violence right now. [editline]10th August 2015[/editline] I think Im just gonna do what Isak is doing and just stop reading about stuff like this. I've had enough of hearing about it.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48427133]Black Lives Matter ..... Only if they're taken by someone who is non black. That's what I've gathered over the years. No one gives a shit if it's black on black. No outrage, no protests.[/QUOTE] Considering that Black Lives Matter was specifically created to end [i]state-sanctioned[/i] violence against black individuals, yeah, black-on-black violence isn't their primary concern. Despite this, black homicides have been decreasing rapidly for the past 20 years. From nearly 39.4 per 100k in 1991 to 20 per 100k in 2008. It's halved. Looking at the offense rate, too, it's gone from 51.1 to 24.7 between 1991 and 2008. When surveyed, black people are routinely the harshest in criticizing their own neighborhoods. They routinely report that they would not feel safe walking home at night at the highest rate of any racial group. A 2013 NPR poll ranked what the most important issues of each race were - 26% of blacks ranked crime as the most important, which was the majority vote. Black people do care about black on black crime. You just don't hear about it. There are parades and marches across the country condemning black on black crime. Every single year, Chicago holds a "March to Stop Violence in Chicago," focused on condemning gang violence and raising awareness of the issue. In Harlem, the annual African American Pride Day has been used to highlight the negative effects of black-on-black gang violence for a very very very long time. A couple years ago the Harlem march attracted several congressmen, senators, and politicians. There's a national "Stop the Violence" rally that is held in hundreds of cities and towns across the country every year. From [URL="http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/northway-mall-hosts-stop-the-violence-rally/34489946"]Anchorage[/URL] to [URL="http://www.kwtx.com/ourtown/home/headlines/Killeen--Residents-Stage-Stop-The-Violence-Rally-318581001.html"]Killeen[/URL] to [URL="http://pix11.com/2015/06/24/rally-planned-calling-on-nyc-youth-to-stop-summer-violence/"]NYC[/URL] to Chicago, these rallies happen absolutely everywhere. You don't see them because you aren't involved. That's the only reason. People are condemning gang violence left and right. Saying that "black people don't care about black on black violence" is just blatantly wrong.