Private Space Industry Could Pay For Military Communications & Commercialized Mars Mission - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The trend toward commercialized space is reaching into military communications and even a human expedition to Mars. Advocates say such public-private partnerships could bring down mission costs and speed up the process. First, the Air Force’s Space and Missile Systems Center signaled that communications satellites could increasingly have extra bandwidth set aside for military use, following a 6-month study by four aerospace firms. Boeing, Intelsat, Space Systems/Loral and Orbital Sciences were awarded $3.7 million to study modifying commercial satellite capabilities for military purposes, including setting aside bandwidth in military frequencies. The firms will examine how they can meet military requirements with minimal modifications to their commercial platforms. These so-called hosted payloads are additional payloads added to a commercial satellite for the purpose of being leased to a government user. They could help private firms make more money and would give the military some extra bandwidth. Boeing alone has received five hosted-payload orders in the past year and a half, said Craig Cooning, vice president and general manager of Boeing Space & Intelligence Systems, in a press release. Boeing says one of the main benefits is delivery speed — the private sector moves pretty fast, and a commercial satellite carrying a hosted payload can be ready in less than three years. Meanwhile, NASA scientists are proposing corporate financing for a human mission to Mars, rather than relying on government support. Private firms could raise $160 billion for the trip and a Mars colony, according to Joel Levine, a senior research scientist at NASA Langley Research Center. Levine makes the case in the book “The Human Mission to Mars: Colonizing the Red Planet,” which he co-edited with Rudy Schild of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.Companies could sell merchandise and broadcast rights to pay for the expedition, which could create 500,000 new jobs over 10 years, Levine argues. There’s certainly precedent for this — Google is sponsoring the $30 million Lunar X Prize, an effort to launch a robot to the moon by the end of 2015 and drive it one-third of a mile. And way back in 1999, Pizza Hut paid $1 million to sponsor the launch of a proton rocket that delivered key components of the then-tiny International Space Station. Still, those were paltry sums compared to a hugely expensive Mars trip. Cost and safety concerns could be major roadblocks for the private sector. But commercialization is very much in NASA’s future, even if the space agency doesn’t privatize the space shuttles. The space agency’s administrator, former astronaut Charles Bolden, said at an industry conference this week that NASA can’t survive without strong partnerships with private space companies. “When I retire the space shuttles, that's it for NASA access to low-Earth orbit – we need you,” he said.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-02/privatized-space-could-encompass-military-communications-and-future-mars-missions[/url]

Do it dammit

Yes!

It's nice to see private companies taking an interest in space travel, should speed up space technology development.

Why colonize Mars before the Moon?

[QUOTE=Vinh255;28009673]Why colonize Mars before the Moon?[/QUOTE] Cause Mars is more interesting, the moon is just a chunk of Earth, and we've seen all there is to see right here, Mars is a whole new planet to explore.

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;28018815]Cause Mars is more interesting, the moon is just a chunk of Earth, and we've seen all there is to see right here, Mars is a whole new planet to explore.[/QUOTE] Also, Mars is a little larger than the moon. Not as large as earth, maybe, but enough so that it can hold an atmosphere. The current one may be little more than Carbon Dioxide, but it's there. There is talk terraforming it sometime in the distant future. The Moon though, pffff, forget it. The only atmosphere it ever had was that time George the Flatulent had a particularlly nasty fart that killed everyone withing a quarter mile radius and propelled him up to the Moon, forcing him to produce an even bigger one to get back. And even then it was very thin. [media]http://images2.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/best-80s-tv-shows/black-adder-7.jpg[/media]

But now the capitalist pig-dogs will have control of space and not the proletariat.

Why don't we mine the moon like in that video game I never played? Or do the resources there suck?

[QUOTE=Dr.C;28021484]Why don't we mine the moon like in that video game I never played? Or do the resources there suck?[/QUOTE] aeiou

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;28020552]Also, Mars is a little larger than the moon. Not as large as earth, maybe, but enough so that it can hold an atmosphere. The current one may be little more than Carbon Dioxide, but it's there. There is talk terraforming it sometime in the distant future. The Moon though, pffff, forget it. The only atmosphere it ever had was that time George the Flatulent had a particularlly nasty fart that killed everyone withing a quarter mile radius and propelled him up to the Moon, forcing him to produce an even bigger one to get back. And even then it was very thin. [media]http://images2.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/best-80s-tv-shows/black-adder-7.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] It's way larger than the moon, and 53% the size of Earth.

[QUOTE=Vinh255;28009673]Why colonize Mars before the Moon?[/QUOTE] Because the Moon is effectively useless as far as space colonisation goes, it could be used as a staging point for constructing new ships but that could be done on mars too.

Don't do it, it's an old alien station! [img]http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/cyd/city-gm.gif[/img] [img]http://www.alienresearchcorp.com/mars/0908/cydonia-earth-connection/photos/mars-cydonia-region.jpg[/img] the truth

[QUOTE=Otsegolation;28025095]Don't do it, it's an old alien station! [img_thumb]http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/cyd/city-gm.gif[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://tech.bemoor.com/Pyramids_on_Mars_composite_dm.jpg[/img_thumb] the truth[/QUOTE] Loot the settlement!

[QUOTE=animephreak135;28022048]It's way larger than the moon, and 53% the size of Earth.[/QUOTE] I was understating the differences between the two for the sake of humor.

[QUOTE=Contag;28025167]Loot the settlement![/QUOTE] I'd rather exterminate the population, that way we ensure no rebellions, pax romana