Anthony Hervey, African-American Confederate Flag Supporter has been Killed
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BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — Anthony Hervey, an Oxford, Mississippi, native and African-American Confederate flag activist died in a car wreck on the way home from a “Save our South” rally in Birmingham, now some are concerned the fatal crash wasn’t an accident.
Also in the car at the time of the wreck was Arlene Barnum, who survived with minor injuries, and says the wreck was caused by a silver car which chased them before swerving to the passenger side and forcing them off the road. Barnum made several posts to Facebook detailing her concerns immediately preceding and after the wreck.
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Mississippi Highway Patrol spokesman Johnny Poulos said the accident took place on Highway 6 near the Pontotoc County line around 11:20 a.m. According to his report, the two were traveling west in a 2005 Ford Explorer when it left the road and the driver overcorrected and the vehicle flipped.
Poulos said no more forensic details can be released until accident reconstructionists look at the evidence, adding “[t]omorrow will probably be a busy day.”
Attendees of Saturday’s event are speaking out, blaming Birmingham city officials for the wreck and Hervey’s death.
“I want the Birmingham Parks and Recreations board to know that they are ultimately responsible for this tragedy,” said Ginger Barbee, an attorney for the group that sponsored the event. “If they had not voted to remove the monument, this young, heroic black man would still be alive. They have caused so much racial division in a great city which has had very few racial issues since the Civil Rights movement. Anthony Hervey gave his life for something he believed in, reaching across racial lines to preserve history and protect our Constitutional rights… Our prayers go out to his family during this time. He will be remembered.”
Hervey is the author of Why I wave the Confederate Flag: Written by a Black Man, and is well-known in Mississippi for wearing a Confederate solider’s uniform and waving the controversial Confederate battle flag.[/quote]
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Oh man, that sucks.
Gonna have to read his book, it sounds like an interesting read.
That's awful. God damn it. Car accidents are just a shit way to go.
This man was killed by an opponent of the confederate flag. Obviously we need to ban opposition to the confederate flag
This is the first reported instance when someone died (post civil war era) for supporting the Confederate Flag instead of killing people and it just so happened to be a black man.
I love how people are immediately blaming officials on this without us knowing a single thing aside from how the crash happened. What the fuck happened to personal responsibility? It's not like the city ran the car off the road.
And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
Because you're afraid of being murdered for political reasons?
My friend, who's also black went to the same rally and got followed home by a couple people who kept shouting shit like "race traitor," and "fake black."
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
Jeez, why even two?
[QUOTE=Tudd;48256601]Jeez, why even two?[/QUOTE]
One for yourself, of course.
[QUOTE=Tudd;48256601]Jeez, why even two?[/QUOTE]
Sharing is caring.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
One's a water pistol and the other's a potato gun I assume?
Having two firearms in your car is redundant, unless you're packing for a passenger. Which is then mathematically sound, but still paranoid as fuck.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
Are they seriously heavy enough to keep your car from flipping over?
[QUOTE=Tudd;48256601]Jeez, why even two?[/QUOTE]
One's for his opponent. He'll challenge them to a duel, walk 20 paces away from them with his back turned, then spin and shoot. If he survives, he wins.
[QUOTE=Tudd;48256601]Jeez, why even two?[/QUOTE]
So he can run out Max Payne style
[QUOTE=Tone Float;48256259]This man was killed by an opponent of the confederate flag. Obviously we need to ban opposition to the confederate flag[/QUOTE]
Time to ban the American flag then, since it's the obvious opposite of the Confederate flag.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;48256600]My friend, who's also black went to the same rally and got followed home by a couple people who kept shouting shit like "[B]race traitor[/B]" and "fake black."[/QUOTE]
The irony hurts oh so fucking much
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;48256600]My friend, who's also black went to the same rally and got followed home by a couple people who kept shouting shit like "race traitor," and "fake black."[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that irony.
In concept the flag wasn't original designed to be a racist symbol, it was only later appropriated by racists for that purpose. So what exactly is stopping the black community (or a multi-ethnic secular movement) from re-appropriating it into a non-racist/non-partisan southern symbol?
Rhetorical question obviously, because apparently what's stopping it is that the activists in question are being harassed and/or killed...
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48256695]I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that irony.[/QUOTE]
His great great great grandfather was a free black in the Louisiana Native Guard. He usually bears the flag at our reenacting events.
He went supporting the Confederate flag and was actually there in uniform. He's staying with some family in Alabama right now, I'll probably call him later.
The old Ford Explorers are one of easiest vehicles to roll over.
It looks like an accident, the passenger was just in shock from the wreck.
R.I.P
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;48256814]In concept the flag wasn't original designed to be a racist symbol, it was only later appropriated by racists for that purpose. So what exactly is stopping the black community (or a multi-ethnic secular movement) from re-appropriating it into a non-racist/non-partisan southern symbol?
Rhetorical question obviously, because apparently what's stopping it is that the activists in question are being harassed and/or killed...[/QUOTE]
Kanye was trying to do it for a while
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;48256814]In concept the flag wasn't original designed to be a racist symbol, it was only later appropriated by racists for that purpose. So what exactly is stopping the black community (or a multi-ethnic secular movement) from re-appropriating it into a non-racist/non-partisan southern symbol?
Rhetorical question obviously, because apparently what's stopping it is that the activists in question are being harassed and/or killed...[/QUOTE]
That's been the argument that the [I]scary racist southerners[/I] have been making the entire time though. That it isn't just that symbol of racism, but a cultural symbol and it's both ignorant and fear-mongering to pick on 'the south' then browbeat them until they give up their heraldry.
I've stayed quiet on this because I genuinely hoped this wouldn't go here. I hoped that it would blow over and everyone would just go, "well that happened," like we've done with every mass shooting and national tragedy since 9/11. I held out hope that, each time, it would somehow not get worse. That it wouldn't really devolve in to people killing other people [I]over a flag.[/I]
People here, on this forum even, swore it was just the Southerners being backwards, clinging to tired beliefs, and it was just ridiculous strawmanning to say it would ever go any further than taking down one flag in one place. That it was never about anything more than relegating a relic to the museums. Now, it's literally just a circus of bullshit and at the center of it, people are being hurt. In my opinion, I think things were well enough as they were before the hate-flag walked in to a church and shot nine people on it's own. Now though, because the flag pulled the trigger with it's little white tassels, we're in some shit, aren't we?
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;48256842]The old Ford Explorers are one of easiest vehicles to roll over.
It looks like an accident, the passenger was just in shock from the wreck.
R.I.P[/QUOTE]I mean, its kinda hard to be in shock before a wreck occurs.
edit: didn't realize the car crash was the result of a chase.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;48256814][b]In concept the flag wasn't original designed to be a racist symbol, it was only later appropriated by racists for that purpose.[/b] So what exactly is stopping the black community (or a multi-ethnic secular movement) from re-appropriating it into a non-racist/non-partisan southern symbol?
Rhetorical question obviously, because apparently what's stopping it is that the activists in question are being harassed and/or killed...[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes it was. The designer of the flag literally stated that it symbolized "the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race".
Appropriating and redefining symbols is a completely different matter, but don't whitewash history to do it.
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[QUOTE=Mingebox;48257899]I'm pretty sure someone post a quote from it's designer earlier that showed it [I]was [/I]explicitly a racist symbol.[/QUOTE]
Yo.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;48256814]In concept the flag wasn't original designed to be a racist symbol, it was only later appropriated by racists for that purpose. So what exactly is stopping the black community (or a multi-ethnic secular movement) from re-appropriating it into a non-racist/non-partisan southern symbol?
Rhetorical question obviously, because apparently what's stopping it is that the activists in question are being harassed and/or killed...[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure someone post a quote from it's designer earlier that showed it [I]was [/I]explicitly a racist symbol.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
And then you shoot the gun and it ignites the gas.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;48256411]And this is why I keep two guns in my glove box.[/QUOTE]
Because that will save you when your ambushed. Especially if it's some government conspiracy to assassinate you, two handguns will save your life then.
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