Germany considers reissuing trpewriters after American spying scandal
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[quote]The German commission looking into the U.S. spying scandal could be driven to communicating by typewriter, its chair has said, such is the fear of information being intercepted by foreign intelligence services.[/quote]
[quote]The investigation was triggered after NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden leaked evidence that the U.S. had been bugging German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s phone last year.
Over the last fortnight, German counterintelligence uncovered two separate cases of US spies, targeting German officials, resulting in the expulsion of a top US embassy official from the country. [/quote]
[quote]“The idea that Germany may revert to typewriters is an interesting one. They would not be alone in doing so,” Professor Rory Cormac of Nottingham University, author of Spying on the World told Newsweek. "Russia reportedly reverted to using typewriters last year in the aftermath of the NSA revelations. Interestingly, German model typewriters are apparently popular with the Russians." [/quote]
[url=http://www.newsweek.com/germany-may-bring-back-typewriters-wake-spy-scandal-259140]**SOURCE**[/url]
This is so amazing I'm posting a second article on this.
[quote]The German government will continue to use encrypted e-mails and phones, but it could also expand its use of typewriters, said Patrick Sensburg, the head of the German parliament's investigation into U.S. spying, in an interview with German TV station ARD Monday, Reuters reports.
The Germans are even considering using non-electronic typewriters, Sensburg said.[/quote]
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/07/15/germany-typewriters-nsa-spying/12665727/]**SOURCE**[/url]
They should start using teletype machines and paper tape to create and transmit documents. Teletype actually designed a number of encryption and anti-tap methods for their machines and private wire links. My ASR33 is fitted with a "HERE IS" codewheel.
Edited: "trpewriters". Fuck.
That would be dope as hell though, gives documents that awesome vintage look.
Hopefully it's intended as a temporary measure so they can thoroughly re-evaluate their digital security stack.
[QUOTE=Raizo;45437306]That would be dope as hell though, gives documents that awesome vintage look.[/QUOTE]
What else are we missing from the Cold War era?
Still have my documents from the military here, they used a typewriter for that. Only kept it because it's fuckin BALLER.
[QUOTE=lockdown6;45437320]threat of nuclear war?[/QUOTE]
Check
I think we're good
What was it, for the longest time I got to use one of them IBM typewriters. I dunno, there was something very satisfying about writing on that thing.
Going back to typewriters seems like a decent idea, but it isn't full proof. At least it would make finding leaks much easier. Plus it would be better for in-office memo's and stuff i guess.
Intelligence Hipsters™
So instead of having the option of actual powerful encryption available, everything is on easily scanned hardcopies.
OK.
[quote]What was it, for the longest time I got to use one of them IBM typewriters. I dunno, there was something very satisfying about writing on that thing. [/quote]
The Selectric. IBM's best selling typewriter. Weigh a ton but they're almost bulletproof.
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[QUOTE=Zephyrs;45437439]So instead of having the option of actual powerful encryption available, everything is on easily scanned hardcopies.
OK.[/QUOTE]
During the cold war there were a lot of various technologies made for typewriting documents and keeping them secret.
Again, Teletype sold ribbons that used a UV ink instead of black ink. I used to have part of a lens kit that optically encoded photocopied documents.
So how long until we see youtube videos of
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Germany will become a retro hipster community.
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bam, yankees lose access[/QUOTE]
If it's connected to a power source, you can hack it.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;45437567]If it's connected to a power source, you can hack it.[/QUOTE]
And if it exists you can steal it. If there's someone on the inside, stealing papers would be easier than stealing password protected data on a computer.
And how do you hack an offline computer through a power source??
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bam, yankees lose access[/QUOTE]
"DSL" in 2014.
[QUOTE=The Robster;45437588]"DSL" in 2014.[/QUOTE]
Ahem
Now they just need a literal firewall to prevent sneakernet attacks.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;45437567]If it's connected to a power source, you can hack it.[/QUOTE]
Uh huh.. Sure.
Could this be a precursor to a digital cold-war? Governments are soon to be fighting over networks to spy and collect information. It might lead to global disconnects and the separation into national Intranets.
German counterintelligence is pretty good.
[editline]19th July 2014[/editline]
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bam, yankees lose access[/QUOTE]
It's more complicated than that. Generally, the idea is to make sure that you have to have physical access to a piece of paper.
a smart thing to do to back the documents up would be to back them up onto a disconnected comp with only one access point
Nuclear power, typewriters, it's like Germany is going backwards in time.
Am I the only perplexed because it wasn't actually ya'know NSA stuff. It was that American's had a guy inside German Intelligence feeding them documents.
Europe should just egg the Americans and there cars and houses as retaliation, That'll teach them to mess with us, And make there country smell of egg all day long. :v:
[QUOTE=Zambies!;45437976]Nuclear power, typewriters, it's like Germany is going backwards in time.[/QUOTE]
Did I miss something? We get back nuclear power?
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;45437567]If it's connected to a power source, you can hack it.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit I can't believe someone said this unironically.
[QUOTE=draugur;45438442]Holy shit I can't believe someone said this unironically.[/QUOTE]
usb stick to steal all the shit? What's so unreal about that?
[QUOTE=pkhzor;45438469]usb stick to steal all the shit? What's so unreal about that?[/QUOTE]
Everything. They won't USE USB sticks, most secure networks are closed to external devices.
Sounds like this would impede Germany more than anyone else.
"U.S Military motion sensors discovered in German typewriters, click to read more"
Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of?
I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11
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