GOP candidate Jeb Bush outlines his immigration policies - in Spanish, during an interview on Telemu
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[quote]Washington (CNN)Jeb Bush told Telemundo he wants a pathway to legal status for all 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
The former Florida governor granted his first Spanish-language interview as a presidential candidate to Telemundo Monday evening.
In the interview, he talked about his immigration policies, his thoughts on Donald Trump and Cuba, and his home life and family.
[B]"First, coming here legally has to be easier than coming here illegally," he said. "So there needs to be an agreement with the border ... for the 11 million people (who are here illegally), they must come out of the shadows, receive a work visa, start paying taxes and also pay a small fine, learn English, don't receive government benefits, but they come out of the shadows and they receive legal status after some time."[/B]
Bush shook his head as Díaz-Balart asked him to share how he felt about Trump's comments on Mexico.
"I was hurt hearing somebody speaking in such a vulgar fashion. This makes the solving of this problem much more difficult when we have politicians talking like that," he said. "Besides that, he was offending millions of people that are here legally. It makes no sense. In a political sense, it's bad and it creates an environment that is worse."
[B]On Cuba, Bush said he opposes President Barack Obama's actions to mend relations with the country.[/B]
"I believe that the policy should be that we always want freedom in Cuba, we want democracy to change the relationship, but based on facts," he said. "In this case, there aren't even promises that he's received to do this. And dictators are not going to leave quietly at night. They don't leave. We must be vigilant and this president does not recognize that."
The presidential candidate also shared a little bit about his home life and marriage.
[B]He married his wife Columba, who is originally from León, Guanajuato, Mexico and an immigrant to the United States.
"She's very Mexican and very proud to be Mexican," Bush said about Columba. "We eat Mexican food at home, our children are Hispanic, and yes the Hispanic influence is important."[/B]
Parts of the interview were aired Monday, and an extended version will air Sunday on "Enfoque con José Díaz-Balart."[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/politics/jeb-bush-telemundo-spanish-interview/index.html[/url]
Welp that does it. I'm behind Jeb.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;48327337]Welp that does it. I'm behind Jeb.[/QUOTE]
Even though he wants to stop relations with Cuba?
[QUOTE=MissZoey;48327348]Even though he wants to stop relations with Cuba?[/QUOTE]
[quote]"I believe that the policy should be that we always want freedom in Cuba, we want democracy to change the relationship, but based on facts," he said. "In this case, there aren't even promises that he's received to do this. And dictators are not going to leave quietly at night. They don't leave. We must be vigilant and this president does not recognize that."[/quote]
[QUOTE=MissZoey;48327348]Even though he wants to stop relations with Cuba?[/QUOTE]
Antdawg pretty much summed it up for me.
I dunno, Jeb seems kind of alright from what is apparent, but I'm still behind Commander Sanders.
Wow, a republican sounding remotely reasonable.
[QUOTE=ironman17;48327405]I dunno, Jeb seems kind of alright from what is apparent, but I'm still behind Commander Sanders.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Antdawg;48327362][quote]"I believe that the policy should be that we always want freedom in Cuba, we want democracy to change the relationship, but based on facts," he said. "In this case, there aren't even promises that he's received to do this. And dictators are not going to leave quietly at night. They don't leave. We must be vigilant and this president does not recognize that."[/quote][/QUOTE]
You don't believe that opening diplomatic dialogue isn't a step in that direction?
How is mutually opening an embassy [I]not[/I] encourage the policy of wanting "freedom in Cuba"?
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Me too Scorpius. Me too. Not only does he have plans for Scandinavian-style social democracy, but he's got 11 herbs and spices ready to season the roasted bodies of Republican senators.
I still prefer chips (fries to you Yankee Doodles) over mashed potatoes, though. Can't stand most mash other than colcannon.
[QUOTE=ironman17;48327572]Me too Scorpius. Me too. Not only does he have plans for Scandinavian-style social democracy, but he's got 11 herbs and spices ready to season the roasted bodies of Republican senators.
I still prefer chips (fries to you Yankee Doodles) over mashed potatoes, though. Can't stand most mash other than colcannon.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget his KFC Famous Bowls, he wants to share them equally.
Considering how horrible the last Bush was, I'll be hardly surprised if there's any change in policies from that disaster of an administration. Practical fascist for all intents and purposes, far right, legalized torture, mass surveillance, banning of gay marriage during his office, wars literally based on resource acquisition and outright imperialism, presidential election decided by a court appointed by this very person, etc. There's a million reasons why hopefully we aren't too stupid to repeat that mistake.
I'll vote for him over my dead body that's for certain. That dynasty has proven to be too powerful and too undemocratic to ever allow another one of their kind in office.
Jebs probably the best republican candidate this election.
I hope Jeb wins the republican nomination. I still want Bernie Sanders to win, but Jeb is the best case out of a worst case scenerio.
[QUOTE=green bandit;48327992]I hope Jeb wins the republican nomination. I still want Bernie Sanders to win, but Jeb is the best case out of a worst case scenerio.[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't know how anyone can say this considering the Bush track record. Perhaps some of you are too young to remember or didn't live in a situation to see how bad his brother really was.
Trust me, I remember, it was awful.
So it's probably gonna be Jeb vs Sanders next year, with Trump stealing the election and subsequently getting assassinated by some sort of NSF analogue a few months into his first term.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;48328018]I honestly don't know how anyone can say this considering the Bush track record. Perhaps some of you are too young to remember or didn't live in a situation to see how bad his brother really was.
Trust me, I remember, it was awful.[/QUOTE]
It's rather unfair to compare Jeb to George, though everyone is going to be doing it during the debates.
They weren't really identical in how they governed their states, as a lifelong resident of Florida he was the only decent governor I can remember, but he wasn't without flaws. I don't know how he'd do as a President, but I think he's probably one of the more moderate candidates in this election on both sides of the aisle.
Do I want him? Not really, but he isn't a terrible choice in their current pool of contenders.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;48327362]"I believe that the policy should be that we always want freedom in Cuba, we want democracy to change the relationship, but based on facts," he said. "In this case, there aren't even promises that he's received to do this. And dictators are not going to leave quietly at night. They don't leave. We must be vigilant and this president does not recognize that."[/QUOTE]
So yes?
He is acting all high-and-mighty but the US has never given a single shit whether or not you are a horrible dictator. We supported Saddam in his early years. We propped up Ngô Đình Diệm. Our government itself is not exactly the nicest entity in the world either.
This is just political posturing meant to appeal to a bunch of old, stuffy voters still stuck in the Cold War. Geopolitics doesn't operate on morality.
Jeb may be more moderate but he is still a Republican, and a Bush at that. Out of all the candidates, he is the least likely to do damage, but that doesn't make him great.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;48328018]I honestly don't know how anyone can say this considering the Bush track record. Perhaps some of you are too young to remember or didn't live in a situation to see how bad his brother really was.
Trust me, I remember, it was awful.[/QUOTE]
just because george was bad doesn't mean jeb will be
[QUOTE=Dysentery;48328129]just because george was bad doesn't mean jeb will be[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for Bush, a lot of people won't make that distinction. The name will be a constant drain on his campaign. Fortunately for him, the name also means he gets way more in donations than if he didn't have it. The name is both good and bad for him, it's almost paradoxical.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;48327337]Welp that does it. I'm behind Jeb.[/QUOTE]
ah yes, i too love political families. It reminds me of ye olde days before the revolutionary war :-)
[QUOTE=Charades;48328117]It's rather unfair to compare Jeb to George, though everyone is going to be doing it during the debates.
They weren't really identical in how they governed their states, as a lifelong resident of Florida he was the only decent governor I can remember, but he wasn't without flaws. I don't know how he'd do as a President, but I think he's probably one of the more moderate candidates in this election on both sides of the aisle.
Do I want him? Not really, but he isn't a terrible choice in their current pool of contenders.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dysentery;48328129]just because george was bad doesn't mean jeb will be[/QUOTE]
It's perfectly fair honestly. His father's and his own policies were similar, that's not even considering that they were raised in the same family - you can't say that you and your immediate family don't share some opinions.
That's not even considering that the state that essentially decided who was elected in 2000 was governed by Jeb Bush. Guess who won that 2000 election? George Bush. Seems they keep family close. Something's wrong there, no matter how you spin it.
Look it up if you're too young to remember it.
Why the hell is his brother even seeking office in the first place? It's not out of idealism I assure you.
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You don't believe that opening diplomatic dialogue isn't a step in that direction?
How is mutually opening an embassy [I]not[/I] encourage the policy of wanting "freedom in Cuba"?[/QUOTE]
Because a republican didn't think of it first....wait they did....Nixon did it
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I doubt his stance on immigration is going to survive the RNC, even then I doubt he will have the backbone to stand up against his party on this one, I see him halfheartingly push a bill to Congress, it'll fail, then he will go back to the voters and say "well it failed but we will still fix it if you give us more seats and another term" then they'll try again, it'll fail, then rinse repeat
[QUOTE=Xystus234;48328195]It's perfectly fair honestly. His father's and his own policies were similar, that's not even considering that they were raised in the same family - you can't say that you and your immediate family don't share some opinions.
That's not even considering that the state that essentially decided who was elected in 2000 was governed by Jeb Bush. Guess who won that 2000 election? George Bush. Seems they keep family close. Something's wrong there, no matter how you spin it.
Look it up if you're too young to remember it.
Why the hell is his brother even seeking office in the first place? It's not out of idealism I assure you.[/QUOTE]
I would have thought you'd be worried about people not remembering Bush senior, not Dubya.
Jeb did a great job in Florida, and while his policies on abortion and capital punishment aren't the best, he did a great job with education reform and healthcare reform.
He wasn't very popular among state workers if memory serves me though.
I don't think Cuba having a dictator matters. We trade with China and Vietnam even though they're authoritarian as fuck and no one gives a shit.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;48328018]I honestly don't know how anyone can say this considering the Bush track record. Perhaps some of you are too young to remember or didn't live in a situation to see how bad his brother really was.
Trust me, I remember, it was awful.[/QUOTE]
From what I heard, Senior did a decent job, and so far Jeb seems to be the diamond in the rough in terms of Republicans.
Georgie just seems to be the odd one out who fucked up.
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As for anyone supporing Bernie however, while I can agree he's the best choice out of them, he most likely won't get the nomination because not many people outside the internet really know him, they hear his name but they don't bother to read on him.
Honestly my choices for President are Sanders idealistically, Clinton second afterwards since she's the least worst, I mean her long experience in politics as First Lady and Secretary of State gives her good standing on the world stage, and I suppose after her would have to be Jeb.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;48328018]I honestly don't know how anyone can say this considering the Bush track record. Perhaps some of you are too young to remember or didn't live in a situation to see how bad his brother really was.
Trust me, I remember, it was awful.[/QUOTE]
Can you name a better Republican option though? I'd prefer another Bush to, say, Rand Paul
I think Jeb is the "safest" out of the party right now, but as far as those of you voting for him I'd suggest you go look at the policy that W. bush ran on and what he actually did and office. drastically different
[QUOTE=cqbcat;48328703]I don't think Cuba having a dictator matters. We trade with China and Vietnam even though they're authoritarian as fuck and no one gives a shit.[/QUOTE]
You'd be surprised. I've been in China and while it's pretty obvious they do suppress freedom of speech and thought and the like, if you stay out of things like that the quality of life is actually pretty good.
Really the only thing you kinda have to turn a blind eye to are 50% of the public toilets. Holy shit.
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