• American Nuclear Society signs open letter to Trump & Gov. Perry on How to Make Nuclear Great Again
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[QUOTE=http://www.ans.org/pi/news/article-591/]In an open letter written by [URL="http://www.environmentalprogress.org/"]Environmental Progress[/URL] to President-Elect Donald Trump and Governor Rick Perry, ANS and 38 other nuclear professionals and organizations are urging both leaders to take strong action to save and grow America’s nuclear energy sector. The letter covers the benefits of nuclear power, technological advances that make nuclear more safe and affordable as well as regulations and policies that are needed to keep the United States internationally competitive economically and technologically.[/QUOTE] Main requests from a Trump administration: [QUOTE=http://www.environmentalprogress.org/trump-letter/]DOE should create a “test bed,” perhaps with ocean access for easier export, where private sector entrepreneurs can quickly demonstrate their new designs, and rapidly bring them to global markets at low cost. All of this will require new regulations to take account of the inherent safety features of new designs. [B]It makes no sense to regulate jet planes the same way we do propeller planes and yet that is precisely how the federal government treats new nuclear reactor types—an approach that needlessly slows their development.[/B] We know you and the new Congress will seek to deliver on industrial jobs for working class voters, and work together on a new infrastructure program. [B]Making nuclear great again should be a key part of those efforts. [/B] [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.ans.org/pi/news/article-591/[/url] [url=http://www.environmentalprogress.org/trump-letter/]Full letter w/ 38 signatures from nuclear professionals and organizations[/url]
This will probably be as well-accepted as the climate scientists mass-petitioning Trump not to fuck over the renewable energy sector.
[QUOTE=1239the;51563254]This will probably be as well-accepted as the climate scientists mass-petitioning Trump not to fuck over the renewable energy sector.[/QUOTE] If Cheney has a hand in influencing this Administration it wouldn't surprise me we get nuclear power
The primary political issue with nuclear is that it's a threat to the oil lobby, which has seemingly endless amounts of money to throw at whatever they want.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51563330]The primary political issue with nuclear is that it's a threat to the oil lobby, which has seemingly endless amounts of money to throw at whatever they want.[/QUOTE] The byproduct of nuclear energy can be formulated into something we can use to deal with them you know
The support Trump had for nuclear is what really made me still have some hope on his environmental side. Clean energy like wind and solar are nice for small projects and communities, but to get cleaner energy to continuously power cities and replace the main power grid, Nuclear is the only realistic way and efficient without fucking over the economy.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51563298]trump is pro-nuclear though[/QUOTE] Since when? As far as I'm aware of, he's never made any comment on it.
In case you haven't read it, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1336387&p=43252922&highlight=#post43252922"]Snowmew's famous defense of nuclear power[/URL]
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;51563431]Since when? As far as I'm aware of, he's never made any comment on it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://video.foxnews.com/v/4586873/?#sp=show-clips[/url]
I am hopeful that Trump's administration listens.
PLEASE Nuclear needs to make a comeback in the US. I'm all for it.
[QUOTE=1legmidget;51563463]I am hopeful that Trump's administration listens.[/QUOTE] Its hard to bring up nuclear power in a political cycle since few people have informed opinions on it yet people feel strongly one way or the other. Nuclear power's appeal to Trump & Perry will be on economic competition and grid infrastructure rather than environmental concerns like it was for Obama. Even with a nuclear physicist as SOE under Obama we didn't see much happen with growing the energy sector. The best we got was opposition to closing down old plants that have to be closed down at some point anyway. We need a new fleet of power reactors.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51563715]Its hard to bring up nuclear power in a political cycle since few people have informed opinions on it yet people feel strongly one way or the other. Nuclear power's appeal to Trump & Perry will be on economic competition and grid infrastructure rather than environmental concerns like it was for Obama. Even with a nuclear physicist as SOE under Obama we didn't see much happen with growing the energy sector. The best we got was opposition to closing down old plants that have to be closed down at some point anyway. We need a new fleet of power reactors.[/QUOTE] Under Obama they started construction of ~5 reactors with another 5 planned, after a break of not building any for 30 years. I'll be surprised if Trumps administration approves anymore tbh.
[QUOTE=Morgen;51564052]Under Obama they started construction of ~5 reactors with another 5 planned, after a break of not building any for 30 years. I'll be surprised if Trumps administration approves anymore tbh.[/QUOTE] I'm a harsh critic but we still aren't building any plants, the reactors are going on old sites. We should be approving new sites for construction and expand where nuclear power is available.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51563298]trump is pro-nuclear though[/QUOTE] trump is pro peace and pro war and pro everything in between.
Yet Trump is shilling hard for big oil and "clean coal" I'll believe it when I see it
being pro-nuclear doesn't mean anything if you don't believe (nor care) that large areas of arable land and populated settlements will be made desolate by climate change keep mining coal, keep drilling oil, keep on cutting subsidies for new industries and go on to chase and revive the old dirty pollutive industries - nuclear will not do anything to outweigh the damage
trump might act pro nuclear but we've seen that we can't trust a single thing that he says not to mention him saying he's pro x doesn't mean he's gonna do anything, especially with big oil breathing down his neck
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51564481]being pro-nuclear doesn't mean anything if you don't believe (nor care) that large areas of arable land and populated settlements will be made desolate by climate change keep mining coal, keep drilling oil, keep on cutting subsidies for new industries and go on to chase and revive the old dirty pollutive industries - nuclear will not do anything to outweigh the damage[/QUOTE] It would make the transition smoother for large energy corporations when fossil fuels become unprofitable. ...In case that's a goal.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51563397]The support Trump had for nuclear is what really made me still have some hope on his environmental side. Clean energy like wind and solar are nice for small projects and communities, but to get cleaner energy to continuously power cities and replace the main power grid, Nuclear is the only realistic way and efficient without fucking over the economy.[/QUOTE] Trump may be 'for' nuclear, but he's more for coal, and he's also against government subsidies (which are almost essential for nuclear power) and environmental regulations.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51566282]Trump may be 'for' nuclear, but he's more for coal, and he's also against government subsidies (which are almost essential for nuclear power) and environmental regulations.[/QUOTE] It should be noted that the nuclear industry has a lot of outdated regulations that haven't accounted for modern reactor redesigns or new reactors entirely. Replacing or eliminating those regulations a lot would speed up current construction methods or lead to new construction approaches entirely (as an example, imagine if we built reactors in shipyards and operated them on oil platforms). The nuclear industry also has to pay the NRC to regulate themselves, which doesn't happen in other industries as far as I am aware. Regardless of what Trump does with nuclear power, I would expect the nuclear industry to take advantage of the reduced regulations. People don't like the thought of big nuclear being responsible for their own problems, but keep in mind that everyone in this industry knows that one accident at a plant can bring down the entire global nuclear power infrastructure (ex: Fukushima caused Germany to accelerate their nuclear power shutdown to transition to renewables).
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;51563439]In case you haven't read it, [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1336387&p=43252922&highlight=#post43252922"]Snowmew's famous defense of nuclear power[/URL][/QUOTE] I will never tire of reading that. It's very rare to see someone get blown the fuck out so badly.
Trump just tweeted this; [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792[/media] I'm having a hard time interpreting what it means, but sounds like he's totally for nuclear power?
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51568545]Trump just tweeted this; [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792[/media] I'm having a hard time interpreting what it means, but sounds like he's totally for nuclear power?[/QUOTE] Are you serious? He's talking about weapons.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;51568572]Are you serious? He's talking about weapons.[/QUOTE] You're right. I allowed myself to be optimistic for just a moment because I was confused by the second half of that tweet. You're totally right, turns out that tweet is nothing but insanity.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51568683]You're right. I allowed myself to be optimistic for just a moment because I was confused by the second half of that tweet. You're totally right, turns out that tweet is nothing but insanity.[/QUOTE] i feel like this is a statement a lot of trump supporters will be making by the end of his administration
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51568545]Trump just tweeted this; [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792[/media] I'm having a hard time interpreting what it means, but sounds like he's totally for nuclear power?[/QUOTE] I am 99% certain he is referring to weapons. Nuclear [I]capacity[/I] most often refers to nuclear power, nuclear [I]capability[/I] most often talks about variety of methods to deploy nuclear weapons. The optimist in me says that if he wants more nuclear weapons, we will have to make more plutonium. We could kill two birds with one stone and build breeder reactors that produce the weapons plutonium and provide power.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51568807]I am 99% certain he is referring to weapons. Nuclear [I]capacity[/I] most often refers to nuclear power, nuclear [I]capability[/I] most often talks about variety of methods to deploy nuclear weapons. The optimist in me says that if he wants more nuclear weapons, we will have to make more plutonium. We could kill two birds with one stone and build breeder reactors that produce the weapons plutonium and provide power.[/QUOTE] it's less killing two birds with one stone and more killing one bird and then immediately committing suicide
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