• Treatment for Peanut Allergies "promising"
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[quote]The trial, at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge, tried to train the children's immune systems to tolerate peanut protein. Every day they were given a peanut protein powder - starting off on a dose equivalent to one 70th of a peanut. The theory was that patients started at the extremely low dose, well below the threshold for an allergic response. Once a fortnight the dose was increased while the children were in hospital, in case there was an reaction, and then they continued taking the higher dose at home. The majority of patients learned to tolerate the peanut.[/quote] [quote]Prof Gideon Lack, who is running a peanut allergy trial at the Evelina Children's Hospital in London, told the BBC: "This is a really important research step in trying to improve our management of peanut allergy, but is not yet ready for use in clinical practice. "We need a proper risk assessment needs to be done to ensure we will not make life more dangerous for these children. He warned that 60% of people with a peanut allergy were also allergic to other nuts so a carefree lifestyle would rarely be an option.[/quote] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25917272][IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/nut.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/nut.png[/IMG]BUTTER[IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/nut.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/emoicons/nut.png[/IMG][/url] One day, you might actually be able to unwrap a PB&J in public and not have some guy standing 300 feet away explode into a million pieces because they were in proximity to a fucking peanut.
Dude that's nuts
i hope for everyones sake, everyone will be able to taste the nutty delicious that is peanut cashews peanut butter and more
Similar to how they develop anti-venom.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;43734207]This makes me wonder why allergies even occur in people in the first place. Is it entirely genetic or is it from not being exposed to something enough as an infant, or what? [/QUOTE] I'd blame parents sheltering their children to no end but [B]I have absolutely no data to back up anything[/B] that says this caused a massive spike in people being struck down with one of the three worst things you can be allergic to. Was there even a problem with nut allergies in say the 40's? Is there any data?
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;43734207]This makes me wonder why allergies even occur in people in the first place. Is it entirely genetic or is it from not being exposed to something enough as an infant, or what? If they're able to make peoples' immune systems tolerant of peanuts through controlled exposure, could I do the same thing to treat the cat allergy I have (having to suffer through hell first)? Too many questions...[/QUOTE] The exact cause of peanut allergy is unknown. What we do know is that it comes under type 1 hypersensitivity reactions, which is why they attempted to treat it through controlled exposure, as shown here. The gamble, as you can see, is paying off currently.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;43734207]This makes me wonder why allergies even occur in people in the first place. Is it entirely genetic or is it from not being exposed to something enough as an infant, or what? If they're able to make peoples' immune systems tolerant of peanuts through controlled exposure, could I do the same thing to treat the cat allergy I have (having to suffer through hell first)? Too many questions...[/QUOTE] As far as I am aware, the current understanding is that it's a combination of genetic affinity + environmental triggers. The specifics of the latter are as of yet unknown. I hope this has potential applications for other things than just peanuts. I'm not allergic to those, but to many other things I really enjoy, like peaches, apricots, cherries, hazelnuts etc. Sometimes the temptation is too great and I disregard my allergies for momentary pleasure, but that leaves me with a very annoying itch in my mouth and throat :(
I saw this on the news years ago
[QUOTE=pentium;43734285]Was there even a problem with nut allergies in say the 40's? Is there any data?[/QUOTE] Nobody knows but I doubt you're right. Its interesting to note that peanut allergies are almost non-existent in the developing world.
[QUOTE=pentium;43734285]I'd blame parents sheltering their children to no end but I have absolutely no data to back up anything that says this caused a massive spike in people being struck down with one of the three worst things you can be allergic to. Was there even a problem with nut allergies in say the 40's? Is there any data?[/QUOTE] i have a feeling it's more than just placebo ending with a real ignition in allergies if nut allergies weren't a thing until "parents started sheltering their children", why did it even become a thing? why did this nonexistant nut allergy all of a sudden start getting talked about by parents enough to make them decide not to ever feed their children any kind of nut thus leading to their children's bodies rejecting nuts and giving them adverse side effects when eating said nuts? sounds ridiculous and implausible
[QUOTE=pentium;43734174]One day, you might actually be able to unwrap a PB&J in public and not have some guy standing 300 feet away explode into a million pieces because they were in proximity to a fucking peanut.[/QUOTE] That's almost a straight-up description of that mocking radio news broadcast in GTA IV. Just missing the handout of hazmat suits and soccer-moms beating the person unwrapping the peanut butter sandwich to a bloody pulp.
[QUOTE=pentium;43734285]I'd blame parents sheltering their children to no end but I have absolutely no data to back up anything that says this caused a massive spike in people being struck down with one of the three worst things you can be allergic to. Was there even a problem with nut allergies in say the 40's? Is there any data?[/QUOTE] Uhm, no. Allergies are caused by the second immune system response to exposure. You're unable to have allergies to something without being exposed to it previously actually. Pretty much it's just you are exposed to peanuts, your body is like, w/e. Later, your immune system fucks up and decides it hates peanuts and they are a threat, this fuck up in your immune system usually causes anaphylaxis upon contact with the offending substance as your immune system rushes to "protect" you from the threat. It's a problem with the immune system, not parenting style. This is also why if you wanted to see if your child had allergies at a really young age, an allergy test wouldn't do anything because they may have not been exposed to possible allergens yet. You would technically have to give two or three tests a few weeks apart from each other for any sort of meaningful results. Hence why people get allergies and THEN get an allergy test, because they already had negative exposure.
[QUOTE=draugur;43734512]Uhm, no. Allergies are caused by the second immune system response to exposure. You're unable to have allergies to something without being exposed to it previously actually. Pretty much it's just you are exposed to peanuts, your body is like, w/e. Later, your immune system fucks up and decides it hates peanuts and they are a threat, this fuck up in your immune system usually causes anaphylaxis upon contact with the offending substance as your immune system rushes to "protect" you from the threat. It's a problem with the immune system, not parenting style. This is also why if you wanted to see if your child had allergies at a really young age, an allergy test wouldn't do anything because they may have not been exposed to possible allergens yet. You would technically have to give two or three tests a few weeks apart from each other for any sort of meaningful results. Hence why people get allergies and THEN get an allergy test, because they already had negative exposure.[/QUOTE] Well this is news to me. Why do you think I said "I have absolutely no data to back up anything"? All I know is that schools get pissed when you chase students with sandwiches (I was suspended two days for that).
[QUOTE=pentium;43734544]Well this is news to me. Why do you think I said "I have absolutely no data to back up anything"? All I know is that schools get pissed when you chase students with sandwiches (I was suspended two days for that).[/QUOTE] Seeing as I went in to a coma thanks to my mom breastfeeding me as an infant (I'm allergic to milk, whodaguessed), I can see why someone would get pissed if you attempted to fuck over their life for a joke.
[QUOTE=Miskav;43734728]Seeing as I went in to a coma thanks to my mom breastfeeding me as an infant (I'm allergic to milk, whodaguessed), I can see why someone would get pissed if you attempted to fuck over their life for a joke.[/QUOTE] You're allergic to fucking breastmilk. How the fuck did you survive that.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;43734759]You're allergic to fucking breastmilk. How the fuck did you survive that.[/QUOTE] Not drinking breastmilk after I went in to a coma. I'd have to ask my parents exactly what sustained me for those first few months, but it sure as fuck wasn't breastmilk.
Probably a specially made formula after they isolated the specific compound in breast milk you were allergic to and just excluded that or something. Modern medicine is fucking awesome with the things we can do.
[QUOTE=pentium;43734544]Well this is news to me. Why do you think I said "I have absolutely no data to back up anything"? All I know is that schools get pissed when you chase students with sandwiches (I was suspended two days for that).[/QUOTE] It might have to do something with the fact that you're endangering someone's life for a fucking laugh.
Peanuts are the best. Everyone deserves to be able to eat them.
I'm deadly allergic to peanuts and while it would be nice to not feel the "threat" of having nuts around me, I wouldn't [b]ever[/b] try to eat one because having a deadly allergy since you are a little child makes you just get used to it being "lethal".
Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] with this logic any sort of cure to any disease could be seen as "fucking with natural selection," seeing as only the "strong ones" would survive the disease without the medical help.
[QUOTE=dije;43737006]I'm deadly allergic to peanuts and while it would be nice to not feel the "threat" of having nuts around me, I wouldn't [b]ever[/b] try to eat one because having a deadly allergy since you are a little child makes you just get used to it being "lethal".[/QUOTE] I don't think the goal is so much in letting people eat peanuts as it is to help avoid anaphylaxis in case of accidental exposure.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] we should get rid of u first then
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] Yeah, when the Peanutoids from the Planters System come and wipe out our peanut-complacent species, we'll all wish we listened to you.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] how is a peanut allergy related to natural selection, especially if it can be cured? [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;43734544]Well this is news to me. Why do you think I said "I have absolutely no data to back up anything"? All I know is that schools get pissed when you chase students with sandwiches (I was suspended two days for that).[/QUOTE] schools get pissed when you behave like a shit and toy with someone's life, what a surprise
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] yeah man i wish we didnt stop the black plague, god why are we messing with nature??
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] What, pray tell, does natural selection and fucking up of the gene pool have to do at all with peanut allergies? Just so that you should know, no matter how far our gene pools evolve, there is ALWAYS the possibility of a random mutation occurring. What do we do with such a case of random mutation, then, and where would that fall in your line of reasoning? Please don't post about something you have little to no knowledge about.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you a nazi or something
Its amazes that I've never heard someone being allergic to peanut here in Argentina. Or South America at all. I'm right now in the USA and I've met 2 friends of a cousin that were allergic to peanut and I was like "what?" Is it also common in Europe or no?
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