[QUOTE]The Harvard Woolly Mammoth Revival team has been working closely with Revive & Restore to study allele replacement (CRISPR genome editing) within elephant cells.
We are interested in using genes from ancient mammoths to research evolutionary and ecological forces that impact speciation and extinction.
Recent advances in DNA sequencing and genome editing are allowing functional experiments to test the links between genes and adaptations that may illuminate these areas of research, while simultaneously forming the groundwork for the de-extinction of mammoths.[/QUOTE]
[[URL="http://longnow.org/revive/woolly-mammoth/"]Source[/URL]]
Time to resurrect the herds of Mammoths and hope the do good things with permafrost and tundra.
Until we thaw it all and have to eat them all again.
Sounds like a neat idea, but I wonder how Siberian forests would fair when faced by a herd of hungry snuffleupaguses. They'd certainly get their investments back (do mammoths shit in the woods?), but hopefully they wouldn't have TOO much of an impact on the forests, since we need those to help lock up all the carbon from fossil fuels.
My mom's favorite prehistoric animals are mammoths, she's gonna be so happy if this goes through
[QUOTE=ironman17;47589926]Sounds like a neat idea, but I wonder how Siberian forests would fair when faced by a herd of hungry snuffleupaguses. They'd certainly get their investments back (do mammoths shit in the woods?), but hopefully they wouldn't have TOO much of an impact on the forests, since we need those to help lock up all the carbon from fossil fuels.[/QUOTE]
The Siberian Tundra is already massively suffering because of the lack of big animals.
Who will be the first to ride one of these babies?
If you brought them back, wouldn't they have to be completely in captivity? The whole ecosystem is different and they'll be like "where the fuck is the food I'm supposed to eat? Also what are these weird trees for fuck's sake?"
[QUOTE=Glitchman;47590001]If you brought them back, wouldn't they have to be completely in captivity? The whole ecosystem is different and they'll be like "where the fuck is the food I'm supposed to eat? Also what are these weird trees for fuck's sake?"[/QUOTE]
It's not like they will wake up from some stasis and remember what the ice age was like.
come on you know this!
[QUOTE=Glitchman;47590001]If you brought them back, wouldn't they have to be completely in captivity? The whole ecosystem is different and they'll be like "where the fuck is the food I'm supposed to eat? Also what are these weird trees for fuck's sake?"[/QUOTE]
Why do you think because the ecosystem is different that mammoths can't have a place in it?
You realise that the ecosystem is the way it is becasuse we've slaughtered the vast majority of the animals that actually maintain those ecosystems right? Reintroduction of mammoths would be phenomenal for a lot of areas.
Plus what the fuck else is there in the tundra beyond reindeer and wolves?
[QUOTE=ironman17;47589926]Sounds like a neat idea, but I wonder how Siberian forests would fair when faced by a herd of hungry snuffleupaguses. They'd certainly get their investments back (do mammoths shit in the woods?), but hopefully they wouldn't have TOO much of an impact on the forests, since we need those to help lock up all the carbon from fossil fuels.[/QUOTE]
Eh Siberia is plenty large enough for one heard of mamooths
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;47590468]heheheh caught you, weeb :v:[/QUOTE]
Do you smell toast?
How long till poachers re-exterminate them for ivory?
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;47590729]How long till poachers re-exterminate them for ivory?[/QUOTE]
Pssh, we'd just make more and flood the market making Ivory completely worthless.
Is it really possible to remake an entire species from the the genetics of one specimen?
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;47590729]How long till poachers re-exterminate them for ivory?[/QUOTE]
Mammoth ivory is already quite abundant and cheap, I think. And legal too.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47590824]Is it really possible to remake an entire species from the the genetics of one specimen?[/QUOTE]
Fairly sure over a dozen reasonably preserved specimens have unearthed recently. I expect they'll use more than one.
I don't know if this is like a fucked up thing to say, and I apologize if it is
But I kinda wonder if some luxury restaurants are gonna start serving Mammoth in the near future?
Would be cool if eventually something happened where we knew the next ice are was going to happen in like around 200 years or whatever so they breed a whole shit load in the hopes that if earth does freeze over whatever humanity is left has food. Kind of like a last ditch effort to save humanity
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;47590953]Would be cool if eventually something happened where we knew the next ice are was going to happen in like around 200 years or whatever so they breed a whole shit load in the hopes that if earth does freeze over whatever humanity is left has food. Kind of like a last ditch effort to save humanity[/QUOTE]
Unless you're talking about the temperature, no, having an ice age in the next 200 years would not be cool; it would be extremely devastating to humanity and regress our technological progress hundreds of years.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47590965]Unless you're talking about the temperature, no, having an ice age in the next 200 years would not be cool; it would be extremely devastating to humanity and regress our technological progress hundreds of years.[/QUOTE]
I think he's more referencing the idea of us being able to see it coming would be cool, as opposed to it being cool that an ice age would happen.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;47590001]If you brought them back, wouldn't they have to be completely in captivity? The whole ecosystem is different and they'll be like "where the fuck is the food I'm supposed to eat? Also what are these weird trees for fuck's sake?"[/QUOTE]
You're all dumbing Glitchman, but he has a point. Humans didn't wipe out mammoths, they died off naturally because they no longer had a place in the ecosystem. They lived in a unique environment called a mammoth steppe, which is all but gone today, they were hunted by animals which went extinct, etc. Not to to mention, living elephants in Africa already cause problems because they need tons of water and space to survive, putting them in competition with people.
One of two things is gonna happen: They'll die out a second time and it'll be sad, or their population will explode without predators, and there will have to be massive mammoth culls to prevent horrendous deforestation [sp]ever wonder why the African plains stay as plains?[/sp].
edit: like, this is jurassic park as hell right here, but if this was dodos or something it would be ok. Dodos died out because we screwed up and let a bunch of dogs eat them, and it's only been a few hundred years since they died, so the environment hasn't changed too much yet. Kick the dogs and pigs and whatnot out of Mauritius, reintroduce the dodos, and it'll all be fine. These are something that went extinct naturally thousands of years ago, they can't come back.
[sp]condors shouldn't be cloned either, they were already going extinct, humans just accelerated the process[/sp]
Not to say this shouldn't happen, because it should because it's amazing. Just that they should never be allowed to roam free, except maybe in a designated area. There was a project some years back to recreate some mammoth steppe in Siberia, iirc.
[QUOTE=Lium;47590898]Mammoth ivory is already quite abundant and cheap, I think. [B]And legal too.[/B]
Fairly sure over a dozen reasonably preserved specimens have unearthed recently. I expect they'll use more than one.[/QUOTE]
it's probably legal because you can't exactly poach living endangered animals for it
if you brought back mammoths, how valuable do you think the ivory of one of the first revived species that hasn't existed for a very long time would be? How valuable do you think poachers would think it is, regardless of any immediate demand?
this however is kind of a counterexample, if they become abundant:
[QUOTE=_charon;47591169]One of two things is gonna happen: They'll die out a second time and it'll be sad, [B]or their population will explode without predators, and there will have to be massive mammoth culls[/B] to prevent horrendous deforestation [sp]ever wonder why the African plains stay as plains?[/sp].[/QUOTE]
in this case, legalized mammoth hunting would draw quite a large sport hunting crowd, especially if the ivory gained value.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47590965]Unless you're talking about the temperature, no, having an ice age in the next 200 years would not be cool; it would be extremely devastating to humanity and regress our technological progress hundreds of years.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't say it would regress us, the "mini Ice-Age" we had from 1350-1850 actually helped us if i recall. Now, you are right, millions of people would die, millions of people would be displaced, and it would hurt us. However we wouldn't lose a huge amount of technology, and it would even help us develop new technologies. A new Ice Age would be bad, but we would make it, and could even help us spur new geoengineering technologies.
I want to eat them.
"De-extinction." Never came across this word before and it kinda fills me with hope.
[QUOTE=Pilot1215;47591580]Wouldn't say it would regress us, the "mini Ice-Age" we had from 1350-1850 actually helped us if i recall. Now, you are right, millions of people would die, millions of people would be displaced, and it would hurt us. However we wouldn't lose a huge amount of technology, and it would even help us develop new technologies. A new Ice Age would be bad, but we would make it, and could even help us spur new geoengineering technologies.[/QUOTE]
Not if it's in "the next 200 years".
I wonder how mammoth steaks would taste.
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;47590729]How long till poachers re-exterminate them for ivory?[/QUOTE]
Man, fuck ivory; I want a mammoth sweater! Imagine how comfy that wool must be!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47590824]Is it really possible to remake an entire species from the the genetics of one specimen?[/QUOTE]
It wouldnt be mammoths as mammoths were. It would be wooly modern elephants.
you know, what if we wrote the human genome on granite fossils along with some of our important technological accomplishments and put em somewhere likely to last a long time, like the canadian shield or on top of a mountain range
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