After Alligator Attack, Disney Removes All Crocs And Gators From Rides and Shows
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[quote]In the wake of a tragic alligator attack at a Disney World hotel that left a 2-year-old boy dead, Disney World has begun to make changes — even to decade-old attractions.
Within days after 2-year-old Lane Graves was snatched by an alligator near the Seven Seas Lagoon Lagoon at the Grand Floridian Resort & Spa on June 14, Disney World staff was installing temporary barriers and new signs warning about the alligators.
And now, references and appearances to the predators in the parks have begun to disappear.
“We continue to evaluate processes and procedures for our entire property, and, as part of this, we are reinforcing training with our cast for reporting sightings and interactions with wildlife and are expanding our communication to guests on this topic,” Walt Disney World Resort vice president Jacquee Wahler said in a statement last week.[/quote]
[url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article86630427.html]Miami Herald[/url]
That's pretty dumb.
Knee jerking to the point of basically hitting themselves in the head with it.
[QUOTE=usaokay;50622207]Understandable. Portraying predators as friendly creatures will make kids think those animals are safe to go near. Especially in Florida where gators and shitty sandals are prominent.
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The same could be applied to pretty much any Disney movie though. What would the Jungle Book be without any of it's "scary" animals? Or the Lion King?
If anything there maybe needs to be a clear stressing from parents to their children when they watch these movies that the cuddly cute animals they see in the cartoon are actually dangerous and could easily kill you.
Keep taking this reaction and eventually, you don't have any animals left to make talking animal movies with. :(
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;50622494]Keep taking this reaction and eventually, you don't have any animals left to make talking animal movies with. :([/QUOTE]
Would that be such a bad thing.
I hope it's just a temporary removal instead of leaving all the fake gatordiles to rot in a humid Floridian warehouse.
From a business standpoint, fuck yeah get those gators out of there you kidding me? Kids killed at a venue centered around entertaining them is the last thing Disney wants or needs. However it is taking away from the experience.
[QUOTE=usaokay;50622207]Understandable. Portraying predators as friendly creatures will make kids think those animals are safe to go near. Especially in Florida where gators and shitty sandals are prominent.
Also,
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5GRSJfTbTc[/media][/QUOTE]
Fucking seriously?
You really think children seeing a cartoon alligator are more likely to go up to one and play with it?
I think that does a huge disservice to kid's general intelligence and instinct.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;50622464]The same could be applied to pretty much any Disney movie though. What would the Jungle Book be without any of it's "scary" animals? Or the Lion King?
If anything there maybe needs to be a clear stressing from parents to their children when they watch these movies that the cuddly cute animals they see in the cartoon are actually dangerous and could easily kill you.[/QUOTE]
People don't go to Disney land so they can tell their kids that they can die. I mean you gotta look at it from a business perspective, i mean this isn't really that big of a deal. People are just like anything that is change, or they're too nostalgic.
If they want to do this for their parks let them. They're being sensitive towards a child's death, nothing wrong with that. You can call it PC, knee-jerking, or whatever but they clearly thought about this and decided it was the best thing to do. Specially with how much news coverage they got.
People are just whiny.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50622603]Fucking seriously?
You really think children seeing a cartoon alligator are more likely to go up to one and play with it?
I think that does a huge disservice to kid's general intelligence and instinct.[/QUOTE]
No disrespect or nothing, but you over-estimate kids. They're pretty stupid when it comes to handling situations, hence why they're kids and need adult supervision. You know, they're still learning and gaining life experience.
Oh no, the Splash Mountain ride's antagonists were crocs! D:
I'm a grown man and I walk up to alligators regularly.
But that has nothing to do with Disney, I just love the reptiles. They're also fairly tasty too.
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Honestly this is a shame, what a poor knee-jerk reaction by Disney. Obviously this won't 'ruin' the experience of going to their park, but at the same time I don't see what any of this actually accomplishes.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50622603]Fucking seriously?
You really think children seeing a cartoon alligator are more likely to go up to one and play with it?
I think that does a huge disservice to kid's general intelligence and instinct.[/QUOTE]
To be fair today's society children grow up in an environment where anything even remotely dangerous is kept far away from them. It's no surprise that a two year old would become a victim, what's the difference between a dog and an alligator to a small child? Both are animals with big teeth.
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I hope they don't get rid of that fake gator on the Jungle Cruise. I always loved that thing as a kid.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50622639]To be fair today's society children grow up in an environment where anything even remotely dangerous is kept far away from them. It's no surprise that a two year old would become a victim, what's the difference between a dog and an alligator to a small child? Both are animals with big teeth.[/QUOTE]
Except this functions on the idiotic idea that kids become desensitized to a Alligator's threatening appearance and go up too it to close on purpose.
When first of all, that didn't even happen with this 2-year old. The alligator came to him.
And second of all, that dog and alligator comparison is even dumber shit then the previous post I was replying to. Even a 2-year old can figure out a alligator is not friendly compared to a dog.
Fucking both got teeth, what even was that? You don't think a kid can go off the overall physical appearance of a animal or something?
[QUOTE=MR-X;50622618]People don't go to Disney land so they can tell their kids that they can die.[/QUOTE]
Do you know how hard it is to see if a kid knows what to do or not? You simply ask, and scold if they give you a dumb answer like "go up to it" or "hug it" or something like that, or praise if they say to stay away or to tell an adult.
I mean you don't have to be 100% honest and say they could DIE to a child, you tell them they could be seriously hurt by them so they should never go up to it.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50622671]Except this functions on the idiotic idea that kids become desensitized to a Alligator's threatening appearance and go up too it to close on purpose.
When first of all, that didn't even happen with this 2-year old. The alligator came to him.
And second of all, that dog and alligator comparison is even dumber shit then the previous post I was replying to. Even a 2-year old can figure out a alligator is not friendly compared to a dog.
Fucking both got teeth, what even was that? You don't think a kid can go off the overall physical appearance of a animal or something?[/QUOTE]
Humans are not animals. We don't rely on instinct, we rely on knowledge that gets passed down through the generations.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50622723]Humans are not animals. We don't rely on instinct, we rely on knowledge that gets passed down through the generations.[/QUOTE]
Humans are utterly defenseless at a early age, but I am not going to subscribe the idea that a kid can't figure out the difference between a household dog, and a scaled, dark, mean looking alligator.
You guys are basically arguing the same logic people use to censor video games. Where young people can't discern a fictional version of something from the real or just have been utterly desensitize.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50622757]Humans are utterly defenseless at a early age, but I am not going to subscribe the idea that a kid can't figure out the difference between a household dog, and a scaled, dark, mean looking alligator.
You guys are basically arguing the same logic people use to censor video games. Where young people can't discern a fictional version of something from the real or just have been utterly desensitize.[/QUOTE]
I'm not for censorship of any kind, you just need to teach your children that certain animals in real life are dangerous and are not the same as the ones you see in the zoo (where they can't get at you) or in film/television.
The only person excited about this news is Mr. Smee.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;50622584]I hope it's just a temporary removal instead of leaving all the fake gatordiles to rot in a humid Floridian warehouse.[/QUOTE]
From what I heard, everything but the Water Pagent Crocodile float is a temporary time sensitive change.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;50622630]Honestly this is a shame, what a poor knee-jerk reaction by Disney. Obviously this won't 'ruin' the experience of going to their park, but at the same time I don't see what any of this actually accomplishes.[/QUOTE]
Disney wants people to forget about the incident as quickly as possible, which really there isn't anything wrong with.
This is going to ruin the Peter Pan and Splash Mountain rides though.
What's next, banning children who wear crocs?
Stupid ass decision IMO.
After reading more closely, it seems like there is no indication that they are removing all of the crocodilian references, just the ones where announcers made jokes about getting eaten by them, the Peter Pan croc's float in the parade and The Princess and the Frog's gator being a costume character.
It doesn't necessarily state that all alligator/crocodile references will be removed, so it's a tad clickbaity when it comes to mentioning the "decades old attractions" (which were the two rides that had the speakers make jokes about crocodiles eating people and not actually vital to the rides).
Still unfortunate, but doesn't seem quite as awful as the article is making it out to be.
That's an awful decision, my favorite part of Disney World was on the Safari when the convoy goes over a bridge which was designed to secure the vehicle while making it seem like it was almost falling into a pit of real fucking crocs. The fear was also real. I went on the safari again recently but didn't get to experience the same fun. Literally the best time I had there besides getting to ride Space Mountain 7 times in a row with no line.
[QUOTE=Fangz;50622802]From what I heard, everything but the Water Pagent Crocodile float is a temporary time sensitive change.[/QUOTE]
That's sensible at least. If they were all removed forever it would've been far more stupid.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50622639]To be fair today's society children grow up in an environment where anything even remotely dangerous is kept far away from them. It's no surprise that a two year old would become a victim, what's the difference between a dog and an alligator to a small child? Both are animals with big teeth.[/QUOTE]
Except thats not the point. At all.
A. The lake the kid was killed on is artificial, [I]there should not have been gators [B]period.[/B][/I]
B. Kid wasn't swimming, he was [I]walking[/I] in 6" of water on the shore, gator fucking charged him and grabbed him, kid had no idea it was there.
The fault here is [I]entirely[/I] on Disney. They [I]knew[/I] there were gators in the water. They made zero attempt to warn anybody that "hey maybe you shouldn't be near the water at all because gators."
They just said "no swimmin" occasionally, and the kid wasn't swimming.
I still have yet to see number on how many crocs were found afterwards, or even a proper apology from Disney. All they've said to the family was effectively "sucks but we said no swimming"
Removing gator related puns doesn't do a damn thing and just makes it sound like there was nothing disney could have done to prevent that attack.
America please stop..you reached the so sad its funny stage a while back and now your just making things awkward.
Is this a permanent thing now? ..so when i take my kids there in 20 years but the peter pan ride is censored for the scary croccy what the hell am i going to say?
this is another pant-shitting overreaction on the level of SJW's
100 years from now people will look back in triggered horror at the footage of training kids to shoot on MIB or space-ranger spin
They shalt gasp at footage of glorifying death to children by showing human skeletons and the burning and looting of villages in Pirates of the Caribbean ..not to mention the "buy a wife" action scene
They protest to destroy the vile Disney archive footage of family's forcing the poor little ones to see a defenseless shark electrocuted before being shot with a grenade launcher in Jaws (ok fine the ride isn't there anymore but imagine the look on an activist todays face if it was)
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