Swedish Government to be re-elected for the first time since 1958 - Polidicks

[url]http://www.thelocal.se/20141203/crisis-in-sweden-as-coalition-budget-fails[/url] [quote]Sweden's coalition government has failed to get its budget through parliament amid a political crisis. Prime Minister Stefan Löfven has announced fresh elections, just three months after voters last went to the polls.[/quote]

I wonder if that national socialist party will get in this time, seemed to get pretty substantial votes last election?

We have no national socislists.

To be fair, from what I've heard the Social Democrats have pretty much spent most of the last century in power and turned Sweden into a haven for unconditional immigration. So anything which loosens their grip on power again sounds like a good thing.

[QUOTE=MrBunneh;46628870]I wonder if that national socialist party will get in this time, seemed to get pretty substantial votes last election?[/QUOTE] Hahaha the only Nazi party in Sweden, Svenskarnas Parti SvP got 0.07% of the votes in the election last autumn. :v:

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46628879]We have no national socislists.[/QUOTE] SVP

[QUOTE=kimr120;46629018]SVP[/QUOTE] yeah, but they aren't in the government.

Just hoping that either "Alliansen" and the Social Democrat Party, the Green Party and the Left Party can compromise so that the Swedish Democrats (far-right, anti immigration, many of their politicians have expressed racist thoughts publicly) don't get a say in anything. If they get a say in the Swedish politics, it will be the beginning of the end of Sweden. It will ruin Sweden.

[QUOTE=Meniketti21;46629106]Just hoping that either "Alliansen" and the Social Democrat Party, the Green Party and the Left Party can compromise so that the Swedish Democrats (far-right, anti immigration, many of their politicians have expressed racist thoughts publicly) don't get a say in anything. If they get a say in the Swedish politics, it will be the beginning of the end of Sweden. It will ruin Sweden.[/QUOTE] Sweden is already being ruined by all of those parties, especially Green party and the Ex-Communist party Left. The only sane thing for Sweden to do is to vote M and her allies and SD into majority power, so that this country can be fixed. And no, SD is anything but far right, nor are they anti-immigration, only the current system founded by unchecked socialist rule for 50 years.

[QUOTE=The fox;46629123]Sweden is already being ruined by all of those parties, especially Green party and the Ex-Communist party Left. The only sane thing for Sweden to do is to vote M and her allies and SD into majority power, so that this country can be fixed. And no, SD is anything but far right, nor are they anti-immigration, only the current system founded by unchecked socialist rule for 50 years.[/QUOTE] You're a nutjob

[QUOTE=The fox;46629123]Sweden is already being ruined by all of those parties, especially Green party and the Ex-Communist party Left. The only sane thing for Sweden to do is to vote M and her allies and SD into majority power, so that this country can be fixed. And no, SD is anything but far right, nor are they anti-immigration, only the current system founded by unchecked socialist rule for 50 years.[/QUOTE] There is no way that SD's ideologies and politics can help Sweden.

[QUOTE=Meniketti21;46629190]There is no way that SD's ideologies and politics can help Sweden.[/QUOTE] How can removing something that costs in over 150 BILLION sek a year NOT help the country? If only a fraction of that is sent to help on site, it'll do far more than it does here. I look forward to the socialists getting kicked out of government once again, and M and SD going back to being the ruling block.

[QUOTE=The fox;46629219]How can removing something that costs in over 150 BILLION sek a year NOT help the country? If only a fraction of that is sent to help on site, it'll do far more than it does here. I look forward to the socialists getting kicked out of government once again, and M and SD going back to being the ruling block.[/QUOTE] That number is only speculation from SD itself. But IF that number was true I'd gladly have it spent on helping those in need instead of let's say our military.

[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;46629323]That number is only speculation from SD itself. But IF that number was true I'd gladly have it spent on helping those in need instead of let's say our military.[/QUOTE] If SD cuts immigration, and we get 150 billion sek over, that will go towards elderly care, health care, schools, police and a bunch of other stuff, AND also help those overseas, rather than ONLY spending it on immigration, as is the case now.

Oh here we go again with the SD arguing.

[QUOTE=The fox;46629351]If SD cuts immigration, and we get 150 billion sek over, that will go towards elderly care, health care, schools, police and a bunch of other stuff, AND also help those overseas, rather than ONLY spending it on immigration, as is the case now.[/QUOTE] I'd argue that immigrants and refugees deserve to be in that list as well. Anyhow from my standpoint the reason why we actually need more money for elderly care, our health care etc (not police though?) is because of the right-wing rule we've had the last 8 years before this election which has punctured our budget with nosedived taxation and privatization of the public sector.

im gonna vote for M just to get rid of the retarded green party

Can anyone please post a pie-chart of the current Swedish budget, as well as possibly describing how those percentages are being used? The more I see people saying, "150 Billion SEK(20 Billion USD)" to things like immigration and refugee help, the more I cannot help to think something is up in Sweden regarding your taxes.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;46629466]Can anyone please post a pie-chart of the current Swedish budget, as well as possibly describing how those percentages are being used? The more I see people saying, "150 Billion SEK(20 Billion USD)" to things like immigration and refugee help, the more I cannot help to think something is up in Sweden regarding your taxes.[/QUOTE] Again, that's a speculative number on how much money that could potentially be saved by cutting immigration from one party so it's not to be taken as a fact.

I swear to Kung Vasa, if SD gets any more power i'll train a moose to hunt down Åkesson...

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;46629513]I swear to Kung Vasa, if SD gets any more power i'll train a moose to hunt down Åkesson...[/QUOTE] Train them to be your bodyguards.

[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;46629484]Again, that's a speculative number on how much money that could potentially be saved by cutting immigration from one party so it's not to be taken as a fact.[/QUOTE] Well that's why I'm asking for a pie chart :v: I literally have no clue what your taxes pay for and all. I just know you guys have ludicrously high taxes like most Scandinavian countries.

No matter how bad a party is, you can't just completely ignore them like this, as they were democratically elected. This whole mess is caused by the massive load of shit that the rest of the government/rest of the parties has taken towards SD, and ironically, discrimination, instead of cooperating with them at [I]all[/I]. SD basically went "if you say fuck you to us, we say fuck you to you" and bam, there's a collapsed government. pretty much this: [QUOTE=Folstream;46629161]To be honest it's understandable the SD would do this. The other 7 parties have treated them like shit for the last 4 years and they keep doing so even after they became the 3rd largest party. Of course they will be harsh back when they are not invited to even the smallest talks ever. I'm not saying that SD should dictate everything but people gotta learn to not treat them like they are NSDAP reincarnated, because they are not.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46628819]The more other parties refuse to cooperate with SD, their role as the balance of power just intensifies. Sticking your head in the ground whilst screaming racism isn't going to solve anything.[/QUOTE]

This can only really end in some form of cooperation with SD from the mainstream parties. The election results will likely be the same, the only other possible resolution of this spectacle is that it goes on for long enough for either SD to lose confidence among voters for stirring shit up over a single issue or the mainstream parties loses votes because of their refusal to make any concessions regarding immigration. Either SD will gain more support as martyrs, or people will get sick of their rouge shit and go back to a traditional party. Will be interesting to see indeed.

UT MED SOSSARNA

[QUOTE=Orkel;46629837]No matter how bad a party is, you can't just completely ignore them like this, as they were democratically elected. This whole mess is caused by the massive load of shit that the rest of the government/rest of the parties has taken towards SD, and ironically, discrimination, instead of cooperating with them at [I]all[/I]. SD basically went "if you say fuck you to us, we say fuck you to you" and bam, there's a collapsed government. pretty much this:[/QUOTE] As much as I dislike American politics, I think it would be rreeaally good if we adapted a similar system. The party with the most votes get to rule the country. Nobody else. None of this bundle-shit we've got going right now where several parties with less votes can cause a complete political gridlock on a decision, especially one as big as a budget plan.

Would someone be able to give a quick run down on Swedish political situation? Source still left me a little confused.

[QUOTE=The mouse;46628993]To be fair, from what I've heard the Social Democrats have pretty much spent most of the last century in power and turned Sweden into a haven for unconditional immigration. So anything which loosens their grip on power again sounds like a good thing.[/QUOTE] Also one of the most progressive countries with amazing social security, healthcare, education, and basically one of the best countries on earth by almost all metrics. But nah, haven for immigrants. These guys have to go. [editline]3rd December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Coyoteze;46630056]As much as I dislike American politics, I think it would be rreeaally good if we adapted a similar system. The party with the most votes get to rule the country. Nobody else. None of this bundle-shit we've got going right now where several parties with less votes can cause a complete political gridlock on a decision, especially one as big as a budget plan.[/QUOTE] Yeah no that's a bad idea. Coalitions are better because they still agree on things together and there's discussion even within the ruling parties themselves so while it might feel like less gets done, there's far less space for unfair fuckup. Besides, America just spent like entire voting period in complete gridlock sooooo it obviously doesn't help that either.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46630072]Also one of the most progressive countries with amazing social security, healthcare, education, and basically one of the best countries on earth by almost all metrics. But nah, haven for immigrants. These guys have to go. [/QUOTE] not gonna improve by opening the floodgates

[QUOTE=Kentz;46629448]im gonna vote for M just to get rid of the retarded green party[/QUOTE] That's like trying to get rid of a rat infestation by releasing a truck full of poisonous snakes