RIP Creative Suite - Adobe to Move Entirely to the Cloud - Polidicks

[quote]Adobe first launched Creative Suite 1 back in 2003, and now, ten years and six versions later, the company is taking a left turn: Adobe is abandoning its Creative Suite entirely to focus efforts on Creative Cloud.[/quote] [URL]http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/05/06/after-nearly-10-years-adobe-abandons-its-creative-suite-entirely-to-focus-on-creative-cloud/[/URL] So to use the future adobe products, a subscription will be required. I don't have too much of a problem with this as $20 ain't too bad for a student subscription, but now is the perfect time for a competitor. For the meantime however they will continue to sell CS6

I miss the days when software was just software.

[quote]Many have done the math, calculating how much less or more the Creative Suite costs them depending on what applications they use and how often they upgrade. Put simply, if you were to upgrade yearly anyways and use more than one app, you’d spend approximately $300 per app or less — cheaper than buying the software outright. The more apps you use, the better deal Creative Suite becomes. If you’re not convinced, you are unfortunately out of luck.[/quote]

I hate having to pay subscription fees, especially since I don't upgrade my software regularly, meaning this will cost me more. I guess it's good for the professional people who have to upgrade all the time.

I hope nobody buys this and Adobe will stop with this shitty cloud thing. By the way, you have to pay monthly subcription now.

I have a Student Membership for £15 a month and get access to each CS6 programs and some extra's. Not too bad considering the price upfront

I'm sure this is related to everybody pirating the shit out of their software. (Not admitting anything, I own legal copy myself.)

Adobe needs to do this [url]https://www.dreamspark.com/Student/Software-Catalog.aspx[/url]

It's a good thing my student copy of CS5 has everything I want for the foreseeable future.

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;40549316]I'm sure this is related to everybody pirating the shit out of their software. (Not admitting anything, I own legal copy myself.)[/QUOTE] "Damn, there are alot of people pirating our software, better add monthly subcription fees!"

it would be fine if they had two seperate models, one for the subscription based were it's overall a better and cheaper way, but for other people that want to buy it and actually own it they could do so as well but i dont see seperate buying models/plans so there ya go

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;40549316]I'm sure this is related to everybody pirating the shit out of their software. (Not admitting anything, I own legal copy myself.)[/QUOTE] I'm not even sure that many people do. There software is a lot harder to crack than an average, it's easier to just get the free alternatives that do the same things. I know a lot of people have photoshop because it comes with their tablets though. I have elements 6 7 and 8 from this, hopefully they don't stop that or make it a trial.

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;40549316]I'm sure this is related to everybody pirating the shit out of their software. (Not admitting anything, I own legal copy myself.)[/QUOTE] The problem is that their software is so expensive most people can't afford it, they would have much more sales if they made Adobe products affordable and way less piracy. [QUOTE=Rhenae;40549485]I'm not even sure that many people do. There software is a lot harder to crack than an average, it's easier to just get the free alternatives that do the same things. I know a lot of people have photoshop because it comes with their tablets though. I have elements 6 7 and 8 from this, hopefully they don't stop that or make it a trial.[/QUOTE] Last I heard Photoshop was easy to crack apparently, something around 3 clicks and a few things to write. Though really, we all learned the more companies try to protect their software, more crackers try to break through and eventually manage to.

Although it might be a little bit of a pain to adjust, I think this is fucking great. The pricing of the CS was fucking ridiculous, and I don't know a single student that bought a legit copy. I required copies of photoshop, after effects, premier, encore and illustrator which would have set me back several thousand. At least now, students have access to reasonably priced, legit software.

[QUOTE=zurator;40549247]I hope nobody buys this and Adobe will stop with this shitty cloud thing. By the way, you have to pay monthly subcription now.[/QUOTE] Honestly this is a really good move by Adobe, imo. I have never been able to afford CS (even with student discount) and this means I'll finally be able to use all Adobe apps legitely. Not only that, but it includes a BUTTLOAD of additional features (very useful ones from what I got to see in the adobe MAX livestream like the 20gigs of online storage, previews of any adobe file online, file revision history with restore features, automatic backups and more) and it means that subscribers will always get the latest features. No more bulk upgrading every three years or so to a new CS, but new features and updates will keep coming regularly. Also Typekit is coming for AI, PS and ID!

It's almost as if they want people to pirate their stuff. They probably do actually, they get most of their money from companies buying their software than the average customer.

[QUOTE=Rhenae;40549485]I'm not even sure that many people do. There software is a lot harder to crack than an average, it's easier to just get the free alternatives that do the same things.[/QUOTE] Adobe software is laughably easy to crack. The reasoning behind this is that a lot of those who just pirated their software before would now consider getting the subscription that gives them access to all of the apps + the other great things about Creative Cloud. For Graphic Designers is great because the Adobe suite has basically all the tools they need and they can easily produce enough from their work to pay the subscription.

$20 a month is still $360 a year that's expensive

Regardless of whether or not it was done to try and stop pirates, this is a good move. $50 a month for all of this: [img]http://puu.sh/2O9ce.jpg[/img] Love it. I'll be buying this soon enough.

[QUOTE=Trogdon;40549778]$20 a month is still $360 a year that's expensive[/QUOTE] *$240

[QUOTE=Trogdon;40549778]$20 a month is still $360 a year that's expensive[/QUOTE] It's worth every penny, the Adobe programs are fucking amazing, they were just extortionate. Now there's really no excuse. It's barely more than a WoW subscription and less than most phone contracts. For anybody in a remotely creative industry it's an absolute steal.

[QUOTE=Smasher 006;40549789]*$240[/QUOTE] I couldn't afford adobe calculator clearly ;(

As a network professional it IRKS me to think about everything moving the cloud. SO much of your workflow now is going to be based on your internet connection... what if your internet is down for the day and your business relies on Creative Suite? It's bad enough not having email, but what about your actual pieces of software that you do work on...

thats a good deal actually. most adobe products were wayy too much but now theyre pretty cheap for all of them so!

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;40549316]I'm sure this is related to everybody pirating the shit out of their software. (Not admitting anything, I own legal copy myself.)[/QUOTE] I always bring it up during piracy debates, adobe has outright admitted that piracy has made it the industry standard amongst editing softwares of the like. It's so easy for people to obtain, but the fact is they [i]use it[/i] when they only kinda want it, and slowly learn. It's a textbook case of 'try before you buy' to an extreme, people who don't [i]need[/i] it and wouldn't have reason to pay so much will get it free, illicitly. It becomes preference because it's familiar, and later on, if it becomes a profitable thing to do that kind of work, these people are much more likely to purchase a copy of photoshop over other programs. It's a household name, it's actually a [i]verb[/i] for doing the kind of work it does, because everyone knows it, and a lot of people have it. Personally I'm running on the cloud. As far as a subscription goes, it's pretty nice considering how much I'd be paying to stay current. For other people or businesses, it can save a lot. What if you need to hire somebody to do graphic design or video work or something for a month, then don't have a use for the product after you're done? Pay for a month, get everything you need, then you're rid of it and saving a lot of money over buying just one licence for one of the products involved. [editline]e[/editline] see I even ninja'd a post about this

As far as the piracy of CS6 thing goes, last i heard Adobe doesn't really mind. For the most part, businesses actually purchase Adobe because their employees know how to use it already...because they pirated it during their college/high school years or got it during some dreamspark like program. Its beneficial for Adobe to have people who already know how to operate their software. It makes a business more likely to purchase that way, which is where the multiple license sales are...big money...

I don't use it much but newer versions don't really seem to bring anything new to the table?

[QUOTE=Frankiscool!;40549851]As a network professional it IRKS me to think about everything moving the cloud. SO much of your workflow now is going to be based on your internet connection... what if your internet is down for the day and your business relies on Creative Suite? [/QUOTE] the products continue to work offline. Sometimes it asks me to confirm my login when I restart my computer, but other than that it won't bother you

The subscription fee is brilliant for those who want legit Adobe programs at a cheaper rate (obviously it's gonna cost more in the long term) Think of it this way, pirated or purchased legit, it's a Win-Win situation for Adobe as they're gonna have a generation of artists/designers/creators/publishers and users using their products and when said people get employed, what do the employers purchase for them? Adobe products, it all comes back in their favor in the end.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;40549932]the products continue to work offline. Sometimes it asks me to confirm my login when I restart my computer, but other than that it won't bother you[/QUOTE] Sweet jesus my stress level just dropped significantly.