Walking Down The Widening Aisle Of Interracial Marriages
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[URL="http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/02/13/276516736/walking-down-the-widening-aisle-of-interracial-marriages"]NPR Link[/URL]
[quote=NPR]The numbers are small but growing.
More than 5.3 million marriages in the U.S. are between husbands and wives of different races or ethnicities. According to the 2010 Census, they make up one in 10 marriages between opposite-sex couples, marking a 28-percent increase since 2000.
[B]Highest Out West[/B]
The Census Bureau does not have an exact count of same-sex marriages. But for opposite-sex couples, data shows that interracial and interethnic marriages are most common in the western and southwestern regions of the country.
Hawaii leads by a long shot at just over 39 percent, followed by three states around 19 percent — Alaska, New Mexico and Oklahoma. According to the Census Bureau, "This reflects the high proportion of American Indian and Alaska Native alone population in Alaska and Oklahoma and the high proportion of Hispanics or Latinos in New Mexico."
Evan Woodson, 22, a registered member of the Cherokee Nation who now lives in Stillwater, Okla., says he checks off three race boxes on census forms: American Indian, white and black. Woodson, who grew up in Owasso, Okla., married his high school sweetheart in 2012.
"I don't think people were surprised that I wanted to marry a white girl because, honestly, if I didn't want to marry a white girl, I wouldn't have had a whole lot of options," he explains.
[B]An 'Increased Level Of Scrutiny'[/B]
The options were also limited for Sarah and Tracy McWilliams — in a different kind of way.
Tracy McWilliams, 51, says he thought he would never marry again after his second divorce, much less to a white woman.
"It's hard enough being black, you know, and it was like incurring this increased level of scrutiny and hatred just by marrying outside of your race," he says.
Still, he and Sarah McWilliams, 47, exchanged vows last year in front of a justice of the peace.
"That was really one of the happiest moments of my life," says Tracy McWilliams, who had trouble holding back tears during the courthouse ceremony near Baltimore.
Most states east of the Mississippi, including Maryland, fall below the national percentage of interracial and interethnic marriages, down into the single digits.
[B]'Are We Interesting?'[/B]
The year after Sarah McWilliams was born, the barrier was broken legally by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967 with its landmark ruling on the Loving vs. Virginia case, which struck down anti-miscegenation laws in Virginia and many other states.
The barrier was broken again later that same year on the big screen in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, the 1967 film starring Sidney Poitier as an African-American doctor who falls in love with a white woman.
Almost a half-century later, Sarah McWilliams says she is surprised that her interracial marriage still draws attention in public.
A couple months ago at an IHOP near her home in suburban Maryland, she noticed that a woman at another table was staring at her and her husband as they chatted over their meal.
"I finally caught her eye and said, 'Are we interesting?' " Sarah McWilliams recalls.
The woman looked away, dropped her head, and walked out.
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[I]b-bu-but cultural appropriation! those wh-white people want to assimilate innocent pocs for their dna and culture![/I] :downs:
On a serious note this is pretty rad to see. Also this picture makes me crack up for some reason:
[IMG]http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/02/13/mcwilliams-d7ec6566e7d783717f00237ed8b562acdda456ba-s3-c85.jpg[/IMG]
[quote]The Census Bureau does not have an exact count of same-sex marriages. But for opposite-sex couples, data shows that interracial and interethnic marriages are most common in the western and southwestern regions of the country.[/quote]
I wonder why that is, always out west.
If my girlfriend and I get married, at least we'll be bumping up the statistics in the north east.
Aren't interracial couples promoted a lot in the American media?
[QUOTE=Vasili;43947039]Aren't interracial couples promoted a lot in the American media?[/QUOTE]
They aren't really promoted or demonized, really. They just sorta are...there. Which I think is a good thing, rather would make them feel like normal couples, not worse [I]or[/I] better.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43947069]They aren't really promoted or demonized, really. They just sorta are...there. Which I think is a good thing, rather would make them feel like normal couples, not worse [I]or[/I] better.[/QUOTE]
I love me some chocolate.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43946724][I]b-bu-but cultural appropriation! those wh-white people want to assimilate innocent pocs for their dna and culture![/I] :downs:
On a serious note this is pretty rad to see. Also this picture makes me crack up for some reason:
[IMG]http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/02/13/mcwilliams-d7ec6566e7d783717f00237ed8b562acdda456ba-s3-c85.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Literally noone acts like that for that reason
It's almost always 'i dont want them dang blacks hurting our white race!!!'
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43947069]They aren't really promoted or demonized, really. They just sorta are...there. Which I think is a good thing, rather would make them feel like normal couples, not worse [I]or[/I] better.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, which is why it's so odd when I hear people getting pissy about stuff like this.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43947069]They aren't really promoted or demonized, really. They just sorta are...there. Which I think is a good thing, rather would make them feel like normal couples, not worse [I]or[/I] better.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/interracial-marriage-deep-south_n_1339827.html[/url]
Having them to begin with is probably promoting them for alot of backwards types.
Nobody I know really gives a fuck. They're in love, they get married. End of story.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43947314][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/interracial-marriage-deep-south_n_1339827.html[/url]
Having them to begin with is probably promoting them for alot of backwards types.[/QUOTE]
That is the most sensationalist title I have ever seen.
Simply reading the article itself explains how much of the title is a lie.
"Many deep south republican voters"? Then why is the only statistics mentioned that of [I]29%[/I] and [I]21%[/I] in just TWO states? Those aren't amazingly high statistics and on top of that, that's only of potential [I]republican voters[/I], not those state populations at all.
Essentially that article found one guy on the street in the south that didn't like interracial marriages and went out to say that's how the whole region feels.
its always rather weird for me how interracial couples are something rare in the US, i mean here in brazil we have plenty of racism too(despite allegations to the contrary), but most people(even racists) generally won't bat an eye at some white dude being married to a black chick and otherwise over here(through this only changed rather recently from around the 80s forward).
i wonder if i ever visit the US my existence will cause racist dudes to spontaneously combust due to hatred or something :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43946953]I wonder why that is, always out west.
If my girlfriend and I get married, at least we'll be bumping up the statistics in the north east.[/QUOTE]
I'd say that's more because in that they're counting hispanic as interracial. Most Hispanic people are white with some mixed heritage so it's not really as if there's a super rise in white/black ones going on.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43946953]I wonder why that is, always out west.
If my girlfriend and I get married, at least we'll be bumping up the statistics in the north east.[/QUOTE]
Here in LA county there of course areas where one race is dominant. The vast majority of everywhere you go though is really diverse. A typical day here you are going to see pretty much every race and religion represented. For example, on any given day I drive past Christian churches, Catholic churches, and at least one mosque and Buddhist Temple- all within a couple miles from home.
That being the case, an interracial couple doesn't really stand out as anything notable here.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43947452]
"Many deep south republican voters"? Then why is the only statistics mentioned that of [I]29%[/I] and [I]21%[/I] in just TWO states? Those aren't amazingly high statistics and on top of that, that's only of potential [I]republican voters[/I], not those state populations at all.[/QUOTE]
Thats alot of people.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43949363]Thats alot of people.[/QUOTE]
Not really, especially since those statistics can easily be swayed by wording.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43946953]I wonder why that is, always out west.
If my girlfriend and I get married, at least we'll be bumping up the statistics in the north east.[/QUOTE]
because everyone on the east coast is white.
there's white america and overseas white europe
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43946953]I wonder why that is, always out west.
If my girlfriend and I get married, at least we'll be bumping up the statistics in the north east.[/QUOTE]
Generally speaking, you're probably seeing a lot of intermarrying between white and hispanic populations, more than between whites and blacks.
Another thing to consider - the place where intermarrying probably happens more is in places where the populations don't autosegragate.
The way I understand it blacks are often semi seperate from other populations in the US for some reason or another, and there's a big stygma from marrying whites so even if they're a very large minority population, the race of interracial marriage among them might be lower than let's say in hispanic or asian populations.
I get a fairly similar impression in Germany as well - one of the largest ethnicities (turkish) doesn't seem to have as much interracial marriages as german asians or other ethnicities, in part due to the stygma of it.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;43949557]because everyone on the east coast is white.
there's white america and overseas white europe[/QUOTE]
Not really? East coast is super diverse, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Appalachians are more white though.
[editline]17th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=wraithcat;43950056]Generally speaking, you're probably seeing a lot of intermarrying between white and hispanic populations, more than between whites and blacks.
Another thing to consider - the place where intermarrying probably happens more is in places where the populations don't autosegragate.
The way I understand it blacks are often semi seperate from other populations in the US for some reason or another, and there's a big stygma from marrying whites so even if they're a very large minority population, the race of interracial marriage among them might be lower than let's say in hispanic or asian populations.
I get a fairly similar impression in Germany as well - one of the largest ethnicities (turkish) doesn't seem to have as much interracial marriages as german asians or other ethnicities, in part due to the stygma of it.[/QUOTE]
The thing against Turkish is in part due to their history of being super fucking hostile to the Germans until literally less than a hundred years ago.
There's over 800 years of bad history from the Turks and their invading sprees.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;43949557]because everyone on the east coast is white.
there's white america and overseas white europe[/QUOTE]
You know that the "the south" is on the east coast, right?
What happened to all the black people? Also, NYC is one of the most diverse cities in the US.
[editline]17th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43949363]Thats alot of people.[/QUOTE]
Compared to the rest of the population like the title of the article was trying to sensationalize, no it isn't at all.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43950075]Not really? East coast is super diverse, I have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to the east coast by I have been from the midwest to the west coast. I draw a distinction between diverse, as in raw overall numbers of the area, and diverse as in who you interact with in your daily life.
From what I've seen, in the mid west to the west coast, it's pretty easy in some states to live your life and only ever interact(school/work/shopping/etc) with your own race. So while a state like that may be technically diverse, it really isn't.
In the LA area though you really have to go out of your way to do that. If you're wealthy enough it's self selecting that way. If not, you have to limit your own options drastically, the exceptions being people who are so poor they have no choice.
I always got the impression that east coast people were actually proud of sticking to their own, even while living in a major urban center.
This thread probably could use this
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43951152]This thread probably could use this
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
That's a really bad graph and I've refrained from posting it a lot of times since it only shows minority as if they're majority in a lot of places.
[editline]17th February 2014[/editline]
Like the german ancestry along a lot of places, spot on, but Florida and the south in general is a lot more diverse than it makes it out to be. There's way less blacks in majority population for a lot of places than it shows.
It's a very simplified graph that doesn't really have correct figures and assumes majority when sometimes the majority for them is less than 30 percent.
My cousin got married with an African woman and they had a kid recently.
The only downside of the whole thing is that it's a pain in the ass to take pictures of them because his wife is the blackest woman I've ever seen and the kid is pretty dark too and since she's always smiling and being polite it's really nice in real life but when you take a picture it looks like two floating eyes with flying teeth below them.
Example for that picture being that Mississippi has two thirds majority white vs one thirds black.
60% vs 37 % I think. But the graph shows it as if its 95 PERCENT BLACK
60 % margin of error is a huge mistake.
I'll widen your aisles.
I think it's beneficial due to the fact that it promotes cultural assimilation as a nation.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43946724][I]b-bu-but cultural appropriation! those wh-white people want to assimilate innocent pocs for their dna and culture![/I] :downs:
On a serious note this is pretty rad to see. Also this picture makes me crack up for some reason:
[IMG]http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/02/13/mcwilliams-d7ec6566e7d783717f00237ed8b562acdda456ba-s3-c85.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Widening aisle indeed.
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