Israel: "Iran closer than ever to nuclear bomb" - threatens to strike them soon - Polidicks

[quote] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that Iran is moving "[B]closer and closer[/B]" to building a nuclear weapon and warned that his country may have to act against Tehran to curb it from achieving its goal before the United States does. "They're edging up to the red line. They haven't crossed it yet," Netanyahu said on Sunday on CBS News's "Face the Nation." "[B]They're getting closer and closer to the bomb[/B]. And they have to be told in no uncertain terms that that will not be allowed to happen." Netanyahu went on to say that Israel had a more narrow timetable than Washington, implying it may have to take unilateral action to halt Iran's controversial nuclear programme. "Our clocks are ticking at a different pace. We're closer than the United States. We're more vulnerable. And therefore, we'll have to address this question of how to stop Iran, perhaps before the United States does," he said.[/quote] [URL="http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/07/2013714214528446397.html"]Source[/URL] Iran's progress to "the bomb" detailed" [B] November 1992[/B]: “But the Israelis caution that a bigger threat to Middle East serenity — not to mention their own country’s security — lies in Teheran, whose regime they say [B]is sure to become a nuclear power in a few years unless stopped[/B].” [I]Source:[/I] [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/08/weekinreview/the-world-israel-focuses-on-the-threat-beyond-the-arabs-in-iran.html?pagewanted=all"][I]New York Times[/I][/URL][I], “Israel Focuses on the Threat Beyond the Arabs — in Iran”[/I] [B] January 1995[/B]: “Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought, and [B]could be less than five years away from having an atomic bomb[/B], several senior American and Israeli officials say.” [I]Source:[/I] [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/05/world/iran-may-be-able-build-atomic-bomb-5-years-us-israeli-officials-fear.html"][I]New York Times[/I][/URL][I], “Iran May Be Able to Build an Atomic Bomb in 5 Years, U.S. and Israeli Officials Fear”[/I] [B] 1995[/B]: “The best estimates at this time place Iran [B]between three and five years away from possessing the prerequisites required[/B] for the independent production of nuclear weapons.” [I]Source: Benjamin Netanyahu, in his[/I] [URL="http://books.google.com/books?id=oVQ2JJy15UQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Fighting+Terrorism:+How+Democracies+Can+Defeat+the+International+Terrorist+Network"&hl=en&ei=mm75TL7gBsaAlAeu67nnBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false"][I]book[/I][/URL] [I]“Fighting Terrorism: How Democracies Can Defeat the International Terrorist Network”[/I] [B] February 1996[/B]: “On February 15, 1996, Israeli Foreign Minister Ehud Barak told members of the UN Security Council that Iran [B]would be able to produce nuclear weapons within eight years[/B].” [I]Source: Barak comments reported in “[/I] [URL="http://www.amazon.com/Treacherous-Alliance-Secret-Dealings-Israel/dp/0300120575"] [/URL][B]April 1996[/B]: “I believe that [B]in four years they [Iran] may reach nuclear weapons[/B],” [Israeli Prime Minister Shimon] Peres told ABC television during an interview. [I]Source: Agence France Presse, “Iran could have nuclear weapons in four years: Peres” (via Nexis) [/I] [B]November 1999[/B]: “Unless the United States pressures Russia to end its military assistance to Iran, the Islamic republic [B]will possess a nuclear capability within five years[/B], a senior Israeli military official said Sunday.” [I]Source: Associated Press, “Israeli official: U.S. must pressure Russia to end military cooperation with Iran” (via Nexis)[/I] [B]July 2001[/B]: “‘I mentioned to our friends, the Turkish leadership, that we are more than worried about the very rapid development taking place regarding nuclear weapons,’ [Minister of Defense] Binyamin Ben-Eliezer told reporters. ‘As far as we know [B]by the year 2005 they [Iran] will, they might, be ready[/B].’” [I]Source: Associated Press, “Israeli defense minister: Iran could have nuclear weapons by 2005″ (via Nexis) [/I] [B]August 2003[/B]: “Iran will have the materials needed to make a nuclear bomb by 2004 and [B]will have an operative nuclear weapons program by 2005[/B], a high-ranking military officer told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Monday.” [I]Source:[/I] [URL="http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-77155497.html"][I]Jerusalem Post[/I][/URL][I], “Iran can produce nuclear bomb by 2005 – IDF” [/I][B]February 2009[/B]: “Netanyahu said he did not know for certain how close Iran was to developing a nuclear weapons capability, but that [B]‘our experts’ say Iran was probably only one or two years away[/B] and that was why they wanted open ended negotiations.” [I]Source: Then-candidate for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in conversation with an American congressional delegation, as described in a[/I] [URL="http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/02/09TELAVIV457.html"][I]cable[/I][/URL] [I]released by WikiLeaks[/I] [B]June 2009[/B]: Barak estimated a [B]window between 6 and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable[/B]. [I]Source: Defense Minister Ehud Barak in conversation with members of Congress, as described in a[/I] [URL="http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/06/09TELAVIV1177.html"][I]cable[/I][/URL] [I]released by WikiLeaks[/I] [B]June 2009[/B]: “Unless their programme experiences technical problems, the Iranians [B]w[/B][B]ill have by 2014 a bomb ready to be used[/B], which would represent a concrete threat for Israel,” said [Mossad chief] Meir Dagan. [I]Source:[/I] [URL="http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/National/17-Jun-2009/Iran-will-have-nuclear-bomb-by-2014-Mossad"][I]Agence France Press[/I][/URL][I], “Iran will have nuclear bomb by 2014: Mossad”[/I] [B]November 2009[/B]: “General Baidatz argued that [B]it would take Iran one year to obtain a nuclear weapon[/B] and two and a half years to build an arsenal of three weapons.” [I]Source: Brigadier General Yossi Baidatz, an Israeli military intelligence official, in conversation with an American defense official, as described in a WikiLeaks[/I] [URL="http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/11/09TELAVIV2482.html"][I]cable[/I][/URL][I]. [/I] [B]September 2010[/B]: “The reasoning offered by Israeli decision makers was uncomplicated: [B]Iran is, at most, one to three years away from having a breakout nuclear capability[/B] (often understood to be the capacity to assemble more than one missile-ready nuclear device within about three months of deciding to do so).

Israel and America need to shut their mouths, this is just creating unnecessary tension

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;41464608]Israel and America need to shut their mouths, this is just creating unnecessary tension[/QUOTE] Hey it's been... a few months since [B]we've[/B] said anything, and we even released a statement saying we look forward to working with the new President... that's something isn't it?

This is ironic considering they try to legitimize an attack on Iran by saying Iran threatened Israel.

Someone tell Israel to stop spewing shit. I am sick of them being relentless in provoking a war with other Middle Eastern countries, namely Iran.

How about fuck off, Israel. Seriously, heartless as it is, at times I just wish it'd get bombed to shit so they would finally shut up.

Dear Israel, Pretty please with sugar on top don't start World War 3 Sincerely, The World

[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;41464682]Dear Israel, Pretty please with sugar on top don't start World War 3 Sincerely, The World[/QUOTE] But they are going to have nukes soon! We know! Israel told us!

That "It's almost happening this time guys!" timeline deserves a journalism award.

I don't understand what they stand to gain from a war with Iran

Israel is like that deluded, schizophrenic doomsday pasture who kept saying "The end of the world is next year FOR REAL THIS TIME we promise!!"

[QUOTE=DeEz;41465153]I don't understand what they stand to gain from a war with Iran[/QUOTE] Absolutely nothing. Its all just posturing, Israel no way in hell would attempt to start a war with Iran.

is this teh happening?

"threatens to strike them soon" Goddammit Israel what are you doing.

I would hope Iran are closer than ever to a nuclear bomb, it'd be really fucking confusing to get further away instead. Perhaps if their hard drives failed and they had no backups it would happen.

[video=youtube;a2Ve4HrRpvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Ve4HrRpvs[/video]

Why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons?

[QUOTE=Doozle;41465805]Why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons?[/QUOTE] They're not a particularly stable country, but one of the more stable in the area. They'd probably get more so if they had nukes, I don't think they've started many wars in recent history besides their own revolution and it's a hell of a deterrence.

Having two countries, with radical islamists running around all willy nilly, armed with nuclear weapons is bad enough, I'd prefer Iran not have them, also

Raight, because nobody would be pissed if Holy Glorious Capitalist Holy Israel the greatest nation ever would invade a country which is retardedly times larger

[QUOTE=Starpluck;41465176]Israel is like that deluded, schizophrenic doomsday pasture who kept saying "The end of the world is next year FOR REAL THIS TIME we promise!!"[/QUOTE] Sounds like when North Korea starts threatening war.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;41466674]Sounds like when North Korea starts threatening war.[/QUOTE] except it makes sense when North Korea does that

[QUOTE=Starpluck;41465176]Israel is like that deluded, schizophrenic doomsday pasture who kept saying "The end of the world is next year FOR REAL THIS TIME we promise!!"[/QUOTE] Well, I always got the impression that the reason it keeps getting pushed back is because Israel and the US have been sabotaging Iran's efforts. Even with all that sabotage, Iran has to finally get there at some point.

I really don't get this whole "Iran will nuke Israel" argument. The holy land is sacred to Muslims too, they wouldn't nuke land that is sacred to them.

[QUOTE=Craigewan;41466705]Well, I always got the impression that the reason it keeps getting pushed back is because Israel and the US have been sabotaging Iran's efforts. Even with all that sabotage, Iran has to finally get there at some point.[/QUOTE] Israel/USA has only made one sabotaging action (i.e. Stuxnet) in 2010. And it didn't do anything that would push development back more than a month. [quote]European and U.S. officials, along with private experts, have told Reuters that Iranian engineers were successful in neutralizing and purging Stuxnet from their country's nuclear machinery.[94][/quote] The reason why the date gets pushed back is simple, they're probably not developing weapons. Israel is just trying to create a fearmongering environment (by constantly saying "They're a year away!!") to justify an Iranian strike.

Why would Iran nuke people if they had the bomb? Pakistan and India got nukes, at the time it was seen as a possible apocalypse scenario, but they've yet to shoot each other.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;41466732]Israel/USA has only made one sabotaging action (i.e. Stuxnet) in 2010. And it didn't do anything that would push development back more than a month. The reason why the date gets pushed back is simple, they're probably not developing weapons. Israel is just trying to create a fearmongering environment (by constantly saying "They're a year away!!") to justify an Iranian strike.[/QUOTE] Really? I swear I've heard about Iranian Nuclear Physicists dieing in mysterious circumstances

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;41464668]How about fuck off, Israel. Seriously, heartless as it is, at times I just wish it'd get bombed to shit so they would finally shut up.[/QUOTE] And let a lot of innocent Israeli people die in the process as well no doubt.

[QUOTE=Craigewan;41466772]Really? I swear I've heard about Iranian Nuclear Physicists dieing in mysterious circumstances[/QUOTE] Those do not sabotage or delay development. The assassinations are just a "message" to Iran and any future aspiring nuclear physicist in Iran. As much as I hate to simplify deaths to being a mere message, but that's Mossad for you

[QUOTE=Starpluck;41466948]Those do not sabotage or delay development. The assassinations are just a "message" to Iran and any future aspiring nuclear physicist in Iran. As much as I hate to simplify deaths to being a mere message, but that's Mossad for you[/QUOTE] I don't know, speaking as a scientist, if I got killed, it would take people a fairly long time to work out what I was doing in some of my work, and that's even with me being pretty anal about keeping good lab books. I can only imagine how much more that is true for something like Iran feeling it's way through a Nuclear program without many people willing to spot them aid. I think you trivialise the role of specialists a little too much. And more importantly, this is just the shit we know about. These kind of operations aren't clandestine for nothing.