Beyonce Sinks to a New Low: Samples Audio from the Challenger Disaster for a Love Song - Polidicks

[quote]Beyoncé has been labeled "insensitive" by some current and former NASA astronauts and their families for sampling audio from the space shuttle Challenger disaster for a love song off her newly released album. Challenger exploded 73 seconds after liftoff from the Kennedy Space Center Jan. 28, 1986. All seven crewmembers aboard were killed. "Flight controllers here looking very carefully at the situation. Obviously a major malfunction," now-retired NASA public affairs officer Steve Nesbitt said as the nation watched wreckage fall toward the ocean on live television. Twenty-seven years later, Nesbitt's voice is heard at the beginning of the video for Beyoncé's new song "XO," about a troubled relationship. The singer has said that "XO" was written and produced by Ryan Tedder and Terius Nash, who goes by the stage name The Dream. The audio clip is short, lasting six seconds. Beyonce, in an exclusive statement to ABC News this morning, said, "My heart goes out to the families of those lost in the Challenger disaster. The song 'XO' was recorded with the sincerest intention to help heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind us that unexpected things happen, so love and appreciate every minute that you have with those who mean the most to you. "The songwriters included the audio in tribute to the unselfish work of the Challenger crew with hope that they will never be forgotten." But former and current NASA astronauts, employees and Challenger family members argue that using it in a pop song mocks the crew's sacrifice and opens fresh wounds.[/quote] Source: [url]http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/beyonce-slammed-sampling-shuttle-tragedy-album/story?id=21365376#.UsF4LPT5qR4.twitter[/url]

[quote]Beyonce, in an exclusive statement to ABC News this morning, said, "My heart goes out to the families of those lost in the Challenger disaster. The song 'XO' was recorded with the sincerest intention to help heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind us that unexpected things happen, so love and appreciate every minute that you have with those who mean the most to you. [/quote] Yeah right. Somehow I doubt that there's even a shred of sincerity in this statement.

TBH Beyonce's new songs and a rocket exploding aren't all that different in sound quality.

you know you've got serious relationship issues if you're associating them with the Challenger crash

I never did like Beyonce, but now I have a legitimate reason to dislike her. [B]EDIT:[/B] I'm not really offended, but it's just stupid to sample a national disaster in your music then use the "I'm doing this to be sentimental" cover bullshit.

Hey, Hey, Hey! Beyonce! Why'd you have to go and say it that way? Didn't you know that would be a mistake? That by playing that clip you'd be bringing on hate? For mentioning something that you had no right to play? I get it, you're an artist, and even if you try your hardest, people still say you're heartless. Maybe if you gave a damn about others, instead of the money you make off their troubles. Or sang about something that was relevant, rather than singing about love for the hell of it. Maybe if you got better writers, that cared about making the world brighter. That cared about the music they're writing, not just throwing emotion at paper for ratings. Maybe then you'd make change instead of the front page. Make something positive, instead of whatever the hell your current shit is. Try it. You might find that being a catalyst for good, can bring more money and fame than this shit would. Maybe I'm crazy, but damn girl, you're just lazy.

It was 27 years ago and Beyonce used 6 seconds of audio in her own artistic expression. Get over it.

Really guys, who gives a shit. Seriously. Why do people get so upset over things like this? This incident happened 27 years ago so can we just let it be? Yes a rocket exploded, yes people died (like they do everyday), and yes there are people who grieve. Beyoncé plays no relevance in my life, so if she wants to create songs with samples of sounds retrieved from failed rocket experiments, then let her do it without the judgment.

I look forward to her next single, "My Heart Burns Like Jews [i](In An Oven).[/i]"

Beyonce's new album is really fuckin' good [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xUfCUFPL-8&nofeather=True[/media] It's six seconds at the beginning of the track. I've heard more insensitive shit on other songs this year

[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;43365629]I look forward to her next single, "My Heart Burns Like Jews [i](In An Oven).[/i]"[/QUOTE] Putting the "holla" in "holocaust."

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;43365609]It was 27 years ago and Beyonce used 6 seconds of audio in her own artistic expression. Get over it.[/QUOTE] Seriously, with the "get over it" attitude so many Facepunchers seem to have with regards to 9/11 or the Holocaust or other tragedies it really doesn't make any sense why they're so upset about this At least, it doesn't make sense until you remember that it's fun and cool to hate on Beyonce, and then it makes perfect sense

Why do people look for absolutely any reason to be offended. Ridiculous.

Lot of insensitivity here. A major incident and you all go 'Well. 27 years is long enough to forget relatives that died in an explosion'. It's unnecessary to use the clip.

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;43365609]It was 27 years ago and Beyonce used 6 seconds of audio in her own artistic expression. Get over it.[/QUOTE] hey, rammstein was founded on that ideal.

i dont get why people always get so wild over sampling

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43365483]Yeah right. Somehow I doubt that there's even a shred of sincerity in this statement.[/QUOTE] She should of probably just said it was just some clip she found she thought sounded nice instead of trying to patronize everyone.

[QUOTE=Memobot;43365651]Lot of insensitivity here. A major incident and you all go 'Well. 27 years is long enough to forget relatives that died in an explosion'. It's unnecessary to use the clip.[/QUOTE] How does using the clip at all imply that she wants people to forget the events or otherwise devalue it And if she feels it contributes to the piece, why shouldn't she use it? I'm generally one to think people should be sensitive to major tragedies but this is absolutely ridiculous [QUOTE=Mingebox;43365691]She should of probably just said it was just some clip she found she thought sounded nice instead of trying to patronize everyone.[/QUOTE] Or perhaps she wasn't using the clip because it "sounded nice" ([I]that[/I] would be something to get upset about) but because she's using it to develop the song

[QUOTE=Winner;43365480]New single, Beyonce feat. 9/11[/QUOTE] New album, "Nanking Love" by Beyonce, Album artwork by Itou Kaneo [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Photo_02_in_Nanjing_Massacre_%28Itou_Kaneo%27s_Album%29.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Memobot;43365651]Lot of insensitivity here. A major incident and you all go 'Well. 27 years is long enough to forget relatives that died in an explosion'. It's unnecessary to use the clip.[/QUOTE] Once you understand that that insensitivity is Beyoncé's attempts to create artwork, you'll understand that grief should not prevent her freedom to expression. Even then she explains her motives " "My heart goes out to the families of those lost in the Challenger disaster. The song 'XO' was recorded with the sincerest intention to help heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind us that unexpected things happen, so love and appreciate every minute that you have with those who mean the most to you." Even if you think that she is lying in the statement above, you have no proof it say if this is her true intention or not. Also "its unnecessary to use the clip" Nothing is ever unnecessary. Everything always has a reason or a value. She chose to add it in because of her own reasons, which while may seem unnecessary to you, to her it is not.

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;43365759]Once you understand that that insensitivity is Beyoncé's attempts to create artwork, you'll understand that grief should not prevent her freedom to expression. Even then she explains her motives " "My heart goes out to the families of those lost in the Challenger disaster. The song 'XO' was recorded with the sincerest intention to help heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind us that unexpected things happen, so love and appreciate every minute that you have with those who mean the most to you." Even if you think that she is lying in the statement above, you have no proof it say if this is her true intention or not. Also "its unnecessary to use the clip" Nothing is ever unnecessary. Everything always has a reason or a value. She chose to add it in because of her own reasons, which while may seem unnecessary to you, to her it is not.[/QUOTE] Right. It is her creative allowance to sample the Challenger crash to preclude her song. That doesn't mean that it adds anything to the music whatsoever. If she had wanted to avoid a shitstorm, she could have used any number of police recordings that say similar things to bring about the mood. A good example of sampling words to make your song more powerful is Macklemore and Ryan Lewis's original version of Otherside. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru-LgSvOCrE[/url] That brings what he is going to be talking about to the forefront, and acts as a starting point for his song. Beyonce's, on the other hand, is a soundbite from an international tragedy that does very little to preclude her song or build the mood.

Sounds like she was trying to do what Rammstein did: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQRXxG1ewZQ[/media] Except when I eventually realised what the audio at the start of this track was, I was actually pretty creeped out.

[QUOTE=valkery;43365876]Right. It is her creative allowance to sample the Challenger crash to preclude her song. That doesn't mean that it adds anything to the music whatsoever. If she had wanted to avoid a shitstorm, she could have used any number of police recordings that say similar things to bring about the mood. A good example of sampling words to make your song more powerful is Macklemore and Ryan Lewis's original version of Otherside. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru-LgSvOCrE[/url] That brings what he is going to be talking about to the forefront, and acts as a starting point for his song. Beyonce's, on the other hand, is a soundbite from an international tragedy that does very little to preclude her song or build the mood.[/QUOTE] The fact that it's from a high-profile international tragedy is exactly what gives it its power

[QUOTE=Beetle179;43365641]Seriously, with the "get over it" attitude so many Facepunchers seem to have with regards to 9/11 or the Holocaust or other tragedies it really doesn't make any sense why they're so upset about this At least, it doesn't make sense until you remember that it's fun and cool to hate on Beyonce, and then it makes perfect sense[/QUOTE] in their defense, if this song becomes really popular and starts playing on the radio a lot, i can see why that'd be pretty disturbing for whoever lost a loved one on that tragedy, being reminded of it everytime this song comes up

You crazy for this one Bey

i feel bad for whoever had to write this article

[QUOTE=Jebus;43366095]Sounds like she was trying to do what Rammstein did: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQRXxG1ewZQ[/media] Except when I eventually realised what the audio at the start of this track was, I was actually pretty creeped out.[/QUOTE] I had no idea they had a version of this song with that in it, that's interesting. I was also bummed when the NA release of Reise, Reise had the part at the beginning of Mein Teil removed, the quote from the butcher.

I don't see the big deal here.

It's not like she sampled the explosion or anything. It's just a few words.

fair enough that people directly related to the event are pissed, but anyone else that doesn't like it need to seriously get over themselves