US government ordered to release video of Gitmo inmate being force-fed - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29485205[/url] [quote]A US judge has ordered the government to release videotapes depicting a Guantanamo Bay prisoner on hunger strike being force-fed. US District Court Judge Gladys Kessler granted US media outlets' request for the tapes' release. The videos are said to show prisoner Abu Wa'el Dhiab being forcibly removed from his cell and fed.[/quote]

I don't get mad at the government like most people do, and generally defend them, but really there's no defending gitmo. It's a fucked up place.

The tapes will be redacted to conceal information and identities, according to the court order, and will not be unsealed until this is done.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46142572]The tapes will be redacted to conceal information and identities, according to the court order, and will not be unsealed until this is done.[/QUOTE] "This highly complicated process will take no less than 500 years"

Fucked up place shouldn't exist. But there's probably worse holding places that we don't even know about.

Black site, nice. A slice of American pie on Communist soil.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;46144543]Black site, nice. A slice of American pie on Communist soil.[/QUOTE] You're pretty good.

Why film this? That's what I don't get. Why create evidence that it even happened.

[QUOTE=eomsten;46144708]Why film this? That's what I don't get. Why create evidence that it even happened.[/QUOTE] My only guess is that this was a fucked up fetish of the person that thought it would be a good idea to record it.

[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46145056]My only guess is that this was a fucked up fetish of the person that thought it would be a good idea to record it.[/QUOTE] that's your only guess? i think it's more the fact that it's a prison full of security cameras, but that's pretty creative.

[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46145056]My only guess is that this was a fucked up fetish of the person that thought it would be a good idea to record it.[/QUOTE] yeah gitmo's just full of sexual deviants and the like.

[QUOTE=Koplje;46145190]yeah gitmo's just full of sexual deviants and the like.[/QUOTE] Rumor has it that there is even a furry stationed there, who knew?

[QUOTE=eomsten;46144708]Why film this? That's what I don't get. Why create evidence that it even happened.[/QUOTE] To monitor that we are properly doing these procedures. I've came into every single one of these threads and explained why force feeding is happening. We either let these people starve to death or make them eat, there's no other humanitarian option. Also don't say "WELL RELEASE THEM DURRRR" because the few inmates remaining there (the majority of inmates have left) are there because literally [i]no one [/i] wants them in their country (not even their own countries) or they want to execute them.

[QUOTE=TimeBomb;46144693]You're pretty good.[/QUOTE] Kept you waiting, huh?

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46145353]the few inmates remaining there (the majority of inmates have left) are there because literally [i]no one [/i] wants them in their country (not even their own countries) or they want to execute them.[/QUOTE] It'd put my mind slightly at ease to see proof of that.

[QUOTE=Kardia;46145391]It'd put my mind slightly at ease to see proof of that.[/QUOTE] It's not something you'd find on the Internet my only proof is the fact that I work with a few people who have actually have force fed the detainees.

[QUOTE=Koplje;46145190]yeah gitmo's just full of sexual deviants and the like.[/QUOTE] Gimpmo. :v:

[QUOTE=Pokeman493;46145056]My only guess is that this was a fucked up fetish of the person that thought it would be a good idea to record it.[/QUOTE] I know whenever I force feed my prisoners I video tape it for later.

Everyone here is an armchair politician. Clearly these people in gitmo are here for a reason not just because hrrrdrr the guberment didn't like them. I assume all of you get daily CIA briefings and would be just as qualified to lead america's counter terrorism fight.

[QUOTE=Mudbone;46146013]Everyone here is an armchair politician. Clearly these people in gitmo are here for a reason not just because hrrrdrr the guberment didn't like them. I assume all of you get daily CIA briefings and would be just as qualified to lead america's counter terrorism fight.[/QUOTE] People here are against the presence of Gitmo in the first place, not really discussing if the detainees deserve it or not.

[QUOTE=Mudbone;46146013]Everyone here is an armchair politician. Clearly these people in gitmo are here for a reason not just because hrrrdrr the guberment didn't like them. I assume all of you get daily CIA briefings and would be just as qualified to lead america's counter terrorism fight.[/QUOTE] A lot of people here would probably argue that no one deserves this kind of treatment regardless of what they've done.

[QUOTE=Paramud;46146949]A lot of people here would probably argue that no one deserves this kind of treatment regardless of what they've done.[/QUOTE] Okay well just let them die of starvation then since that's a better alternative.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46146997]Okay well just let them die of starvation then since that's a better alternative.[/QUOTE] Without going into the point of a hunger strike, being force fed isn't just someone repeatedly stuffing luke warm hot dogs down your throat. It's incredibly traumatic and borders on torture. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6ACE-BBPRs[/media]

[QUOTE=Mudbone;46146013]Everyone here is an armchair politician. Clearly these people in gitmo are here for a reason not just because hrrrdrr the guberment didn't like them. I assume all of you get daily CIA briefings and would be just as qualified to lead america's counter terrorism fight.[/QUOTE] as an individual who studies politics as my fuckin job i find it absolutely abhorrent that our government will take prisoners and then never provide them with a trial, and when they do, they do it in some bastardized military tribunal i understand that these individuals cannot go through the us domestic court system because it'll be severely dangerous for them in american federal prisons; the least we could do is extradite them somewhere they can be reasonably tried and placed in prison hopefully a prison where they're not subjected to rape, loud music playing 24/7, force feeding, etc. [editline]4th October 2014[/editline] also fyi to all force feeding from a legal standpoint [B]is torture[/B].

[QUOTE] rape, loud music playing 24/7, force feeding, etc.[/QUOTE] Sounds kinky

[QUOTE=Paramud;46147015]Without going into the point of a hunger strike, being force fed isn't just someone repeatedly stuffing luke warm hot dogs down your throat. It's incredibly traumatic and borders on torture. [/QUOTE] Lol I figured you got your idea of what an e-feed is from Mos Defs ridiculous fucking theatrical video. Hospitals do this shit all the time, actually some of the detainees are such pros they'll put their own in. Here's a video of what an actual NG tube placement looks like without all of the theatrics. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5ctZInOyA[/media]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46147082]Lol I figured you got your idea of what an e-feed is from Mos Defs ridiculous fucking theatrical video. Hospitals do this shit all the time, actually some of the detainees are such pros they'll put their own in. Here's a video of what an actual NG tube placement looks like without all of the theatrics.[/QUOTE] Surprise surprise, patients being fed under normal circumstances and not being force fed have a much nicer and more relaxed time than detainees in a shithole being forcefully restrained likely by a guard trained to be aggressive. Even in the video that you linked you can see there's some discomfort, now imagine that happening while you're being forcefully restrained while having been on hunger strike in fucking gitmo of all places.

[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;46147143]Surprise surprise, patients being fed under normal circumstances and not being force fed have a much nicer and more relaxed time than detainees in a shithole being forcefully restrained likely by a guard trained to be aggressive. Even in the video that you linked you can see there's some discomfort, now imagine that happening while you're being forcefully restrained while having been on hunger strike in fucking gitmo of all places.[/QUOTE] You're a fool if you think the detainees act like Mos Def does. They've been getting e feeds for so long they don't choose to resist. Getting "e-feeds" is a badge of honor to these guys. Believe it or not the detainees will eat food, except they're on a nutritional point system. So what they'll do is eat just enough to be below the threshold so they still won't have enough points to not get an e-feed.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46147156]You're a fool if you think the detainees act like Mos Def does.[/QUOTE] Clearly you know this firsthand.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46147156]You're a fool if you think the detainees act like Mos Def does. They've been getting e feeds for so long they don't choose to resist. Getting "e-feeds" is a badge of honor to these guys. Believe it or not the detainees will eat food, except they're on a nutritional point system. So what they'll do is eat just enough to be below the threshold so they still won't have enough points to not get an e-feed.[/QUOTE] [Citation Needed]