Kushner says Trump campaign was too dysfunctional to collude with Russia
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[quote]President Donald Trump’s son-in-law told a group of congressional interns that the Trump campaign couldn’t have colluded with Russia because the team was too dysfunctional and disorganized to coordinate with a foreign government.
The remarks on Monday by Jared Kushner, a senior adviser to the president, came in response to a question about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign worked with Moscow.
ForeignPolicy.com first reported Kushner’s remarks, which were intended to be off the record. “They thought we colluded, but we couldn’t even collude with our local offices,” Kushner said, according to the website.
A Democratic congressional aide knowledgeable of the meeting confirmed the accuracy of the remarks and others that Kushner made. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity to freely describe the talk.
Kushner also told the interns that the White House doesn’t know where Mueller’s inquiry is headed. He said he didn’t think he’d embark on a career in government and politics after Trump’s victorious White House bid so he didn’t carefully track his contacts with foreign officials, which is required information on a security clearance application.
His meeting with the interns is part of a regular series in which guest speakers meet with them each year. The organizers of the event initially asked the interns to write down their questions and Kushner would randomly select them to answer. But the congressional aide said Kushner insisted on taking live questions and didn’t hesitate to answer them.
Kushner met privately last week at the Capitol with members of the Senate and House intelligence committees. He acknowledged four meetings with Russians during and after Trump’s victorious White House bid and insisted that he had “nothing to hide.”
Kushner said: “All of my actions were proper.”[/quote]
[url=https://apnews.com/4304dbc83cec4b76ace144121cce8d14/Kushner-says-Trump-campaign-was-too-dysfunctional-to-collude]AP[/url]
I had never heard of ForeignPolicy.com, so [url=http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/31/kusher-to-interns-trump-team-too-disorganized-to-collude-with-russia/]here[/url] is their article and [url=https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/foreign-policy/]Media Bias Fact Check[/url] has them slightly off center to the right with a factual reporting of "high".
Ah, so he's going with "But, the administration is too incompetent to collude!" defense.
Brilliant.
"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump."
Trump Jr. [I]enthusiastically agreed[/I] to take this "high level and sensitive information" from "Russia and its government." Not only did he agree to take the information, he actively informed multiple senior Trump officials, including Jared Kushner, of the exchange and set up a private meeting (which he later chose not to disclose, and then repeatedly lied about, both in terms of who was actually present and what was actually discussed, when it came to light).
I don't think that anybody is doubting the incompetency of the Trump administration, but you don't need to be a mastermind to be the foolish pawns of a hostile government. All you have to do is say "yes," when asked, and then take action to make it reality.
Ah, the "We couldn't have done it, we're too stupid!" defense.
"We're too big of retards to know how to do that. In fact I don't even remember the code to my door lock!"
If he's stupid enough to use such a braindead line of thinking as a defense, well -- it's a catch 22!
[QUOTE=Destroyox;52529703]"We're too big of retards to know how to do that. In fact I don't even remember the code to my door lock!"[/QUOTE]
Don't worry! Spicy found a great way to store their passwords for later!
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Too dysfunctional to collude but apparently functional enough to handle nuclear launch codes.
Imagine admitting that you were so apparently incompetent you wouldn't be able to collude with a foreign government.
Especially when it's obvious to everyone that really, you were so incompetent to get [I]away[/I] with collusion.
We all [I]know[/I] they're incompetent but that has nothing to do with collusion.
The worst part is that Putin must be laughing his ass off at this shit show - regardless of what happens at this point.
isnt it a bit early to be pleading insanity
Smells like desperation now.
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the "we're a bunch of dumbasses" administration
I'd believe it. This was a really ragtag group of folks who just happened to snag a really good message against a really poor opposition, certainly through none of their own coordination. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those one-off wins the likes of which we won't see again for a long time.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52530533]I'd believe it. This was a really ragtag group of folks who just happened to snag a really good message against a really poor opposition, certainly through none of their own coordination. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those one-off wins the likes of which we won't see again for a long time.[/QUOTE]
The problem with this scenario is that this ragtag group of folks that got lucky were in no way prepared to direct a country. They are easier to, let's say, [I]manipulate[/I]
If anything that makes it even [I]more[/I] likely that there was some collusion, since the disorganization means nobody's keeping anybody else in check.
He's right, Trump is too stupid to have thought all of this up. That's the job of the Russian spies who go after stupid greedy businessmen.
See if that helps him in court
[QUOTE=Chonch;52530533]I'd believe it. This was a really ragtag group of folks who just happened to snag a really good message against a really poor opposition, certainly through none of their own coordination. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those one-off wins the likes of which we won't see again for a long time.[/QUOTE]
I've always wondered what lobotomy patients are like..
[QUOTE=Chonch;52530533]I'd believe it. This was a really ragtag group of folks who just happened to snag a really good message against a really poor opposition, certainly through none of their own coordination. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those one-off wins the likes of which we won't see again for a long time.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call it a good message when it would fall apart under even the smallest bit of criticism
[QUOTE=Chonch;52530533]I'd believe it. This was a really ragtag group of folks who just happened to snag a really good message against a really poor opposition, certainly through none of their own coordination. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those one-off wins the likes of which we won't see again for a long time.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, too dysfunctional to make supposed 'good deals' but not too dysfunctional to handle the keys to mutually assured destruction.
Nice, I wonder how if your brain is in tact from having to repress some memories and highlighting others.
[QUOTE=Kagu;52536229]Ah yes, too dysfunctional to make supposed 'good deals' but not too dysfunctional to handle the keys to mutually assured destruction.
Nice, I wonder how if your brain is in tact from having to repress some memories and highlighting others.[/QUOTE]
The sheer pressure of the cognitive dissonance in Trump's supporters' heads must be a few tweets short of undergoing nuclear fusion at this point.
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