I was planning on getting a OCZ Vertex 3 when it comes out.
My chest still hurts from the rib removing operation, to bad they don't sell so good since Adam sold his.
I really need some cash...
Damnit I was planning on getting a new graphics card, but now I'm unsure.
I'm curious, does he mean games load faster just from the OS being installed on the SSD or just the few games that you can fit on the SSD itself alongside it load faster?
I'd hasten to assume that DirectX and other API's could load a lot faster in themselves...
I think there are more important upgrades than an SSD...
You will be buying a new SSD every year with their lifespan.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;28984346]You will be buying a new SSD every year with their lifespan.[/QUOTE]
No you won't.
TRIM and certain programs that are able to restore the SSD completely.
RPS needs to stick to games not hardware.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;28984180]I'm curious, does he mean games load faster just from the OS being installed on the SSD or just the few games that you can fit on the SSD itself alongside it load faster?
I'd hasten to assume that DirectX and other API's could load a lot faster in themselves...[/QUOTE]
Has to be on the SSD.
Rolling with a 4670 I think a new Graphics card gets Priority.
i'd say the gpu takes priority seeing as it makes the most difference, aside from the cpu.
they're not exactly cheap. i'd rather wait a few extra minutes everyday and have some spare money.
I'll wait until they don't cost $200 for 30 gigs, thanks
I wish RPS did an article on something we dont know
An SSD is a luxury, there are so many other parts that are more important in building a PC.
I don't see SSDs improving performance so I won't bother thanks. A new GPU will still make the most difference.
[QUOTE=Legend286;28986087]I don't see SSDs improving performance so I won't bother thanks. A new GPU will still make the most difference.[/QUOTE]
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just get a small one for booting and steam, my dad got one in his recent upgrade and they're fast as shit
You know I always considered installing a 250GB SSD into an Xbox 360 or PS3, but then I realized that the Xbox 360 OS doesn't have TRIM support (to my knowledge), and the difference of having a few less seconds in loading times with the high costs hardly makes it worth it. Although SDD's are expensive, I believe it would only be worthwhile to invest them inside a laptop at most. A more affordable solution would be to get a Solid State Hybrid SATA Drive considering the performance is quite close to an SSD with a significantly less cost.
Here's an nifty video showing OS and program startup times with an SSD alongside other hard drives, Hybrid SATA is at the top right.
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You can get a 500GB Hybrid SATA for [url=http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500gb-seagate-st95005620as-momentus-xt-hybrid25-hdd-sata-3gb-s-7200rpm-32mb-cache-11-ms-ncq]£83.98[/url], while an SSD of that size would cost around [url=http://www.scan.co.uk/products/480gb-ocz-technology-vertex-2e-25-sandforce-ssd-mlc-flash-read-250mb-s-write-240mb-s]£1,359.24[/url] depending where you look.
I don't plan on getting one until they're sub $1 per gb.
[QUOTE=Legend286;28986087]I don't see SSDs improving performance so I won't bother thanks. A new GPU will still make the most difference.[/QUOTE]
SSD's do not improve the actual performance of a program, they have virtually little to none (~0.1ms) seektime thus allowing faster access of data. This means faster OS bootups and programs, or in video games much faster loading times.
It's not really worth upgrading right now unless your computer is a old pile of shit. I'd say it'd be best to wait until at least like Christmas to upgrade, as by then a lot of high end parts will be low priced.
Graphics card first, then CPU, then SSD imo
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;28984346]You will be buying a new SSD every year with their lifespan.[/QUOTE]
No you wont. SSD's have no moving parts and should in theory last longer than an HDD. The only way I could see this happening is if you buy an SSD with no TRIM support, and/or use an operating system that has no TRIM support. You need both the SSD and OS to have TRIM support in order to both maintain efficiency and prolong the SSD's lifespan.
Another sure fire way to end, or horribly decrease performance on an SSD, is to defrag it. In fact, this is another advantage of an SSD drive. You don't need to defrag the drive at all considering that the drive itself is actually designed to write data evenly in all sectors in a contiguous manner, and defragging it often will just degrade the flash memory much much faster over time with no gain, which brings me onto my next point.
I can see why you may say this. Each sector on the drive has only a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. It's no lie that the more that data is written on the drive, the shorter the lifespan of it it will be, but theoretically you wouldn't even reach this limit if just in normal usage alone. But even so there are many many ways to get around this. Users who know what they are doing and know how to properly utilise an SSD (such as properly setting up the SSD as a primary and having an HDD as secondary to store all the large data) will benefit the most out of one.
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Also exactly what Odellus was hinting at:
[QUOTE=Odellus;28984436]No you won't.
TRIM and certain programs that are able to restore the SSD completely.[/quote]
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As well as the article even mentions something regarding this:
[quote=RPS Shotgun]- TRIM is a silly and slightly naughty-sounding word, but a vital one when it comes to SSDs. [b]These little bastards can wear out as a result of long-term reads and writes, which in practical terms means a degradation in performance over time. TRIM can help to keep this at bay, kinda by wiping free space and restoring it to a virginal status.[/b] That sentence is factually wrong but conceptually valid. Only the more recent drives support TRIM, though some of the older ones can have their firmware updated to include it. If you’ve got an old drive, check its manufacturer’s site and old man Google. There are third party hacks to enable it on a few drives that don’t officially support it, but don’t get your hopes too high.[/quote]
I thought he was going to say Kinect sensor when it has official win 7 support
I'll stick to conventional hard drives until these new things become more established.
[QUOTE=slinkman;28986302]I don't plan on getting one until they're sub $1 per gb.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather pay 50 Cents per Gig, though that would probably lose them money, I suppose.
I'd rather pay £40 for a 1TB HDD than £100 for a 60GB SSD, I can deal with file transfers and loading times taking a little longer for those prices.
My WD Black 640 is still chugging. Only paid $30 for it too on newegg :smug: I don't feel the need to upgrade to a SSD until it dies.
SSD won't be a viable option as a replacement until it reaches the same capacities and price range as current plate based hard drives.
I bought a 512mb IDE SSD for my 386 laptop.
Only paid $5.
I was talking to a friend about this the other day. It makes me drool, but I have a lot of other issues I need to fix first. Like other people have said before me, I'd rather have a new graphics card or a new processor before an SSD.
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