• Germany to 'reintroduce border controls' with Austria as Munich struggles with refugee arrivals
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[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34239674[/url] [quote]Germany is to reintroduce some form of controls on its border with Austria to cope with the influx of migrants, German and Austrian media report. It is not clear what measures would be introduced. More than 13,000 migrants arrived into Munich alone on Saturday. Germany's vice-chancellor said the country was "at the limit of its capabilities".[/quote]
For once I got to see how utterly retarded German government is. What the fuck were they hoping to achieve?
invite all immigrants to europe not enough room for all immigrants lol guys no more immigrants pls
[QUOTE]Kronen Zeitung said that Bavarian police will begin to carry out checks "to determine immediately who is entitled to asylum", but it is not clear how such checks would be made.[/QUOTE] It may have been helpful to setup such a system [B]before[/B] committing to taking in hundreds of thousands of people, most of whom you can't process in a timely matter, nor confirm if they're even refugees.
I think it's pretty clear now that the German government has no idea what it's doing.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;48674491]I think it's pretty clear now that the German government has no idea what it's doing.[/QUOTE] Everyone wants to be a saint up until it means they have to roll up their sleeves and actually do something.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;48674491]I think it's pretty clear now that the German government has no idea what it's doing.[/QUOTE] Which is nothing new with our leading party CDU. They only act if they absolutely have to, and even then they just say "we can do it" without bringing suggestions. It's a shame how Merkel presented Germany as being more than capable in taking in so many refugees, yet does fuck all in helping cities housing said refugees. It would be a huge chaos here if there weren't so many voluntary helpers.
A pretty spectacular fuck up by Germany
I wrote it in another thread a while ago, nothing against helping those people but Germany alone can't take it all. "Waving" around that we take so many people with open arms will only cause more people wanting to get to Germany and the whole thing explodes.
Question is is that are most of these immigrants going to actually integrate or go and join the parallel societies that have already been established in Germany?
I could swear I was reading a thread yesterday where they said they could easily handle 500,000 a year... guess it was just a dream.
Well done Merkel you idiot. :incredible:
Well, that's what you're gonna get if you're going to let hundreds and thousands of people in! :v:
All aboard the "I told you so" train :v: Being humanitarian is important, but so is being realistic
[QUOTE=Jitterz;48674688]I could swear I was reading a thread yesterday where they said they could easily handle 500,000 a year... guess it was just a dream.[/QUOTE] Well, they can, it's just 800,000 or more of them are expected to arrive.
[QUOTE=Jitterz;48674688]I could swear I was reading a thread yesterday where they said they could easily handle 500,000 a year... guess it was just a dream.[/QUOTE] Noone said "easily" [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Baazul;48674540]Which is nothing new with our leading party CDU. They only act if they absolutely have to, and even then they just say "we can do it" without bringing suggestions. It's a shame how Merkel presented Germany as being more than capable in taking in so many refugees, yet does fuck all in helping cities housing said refugees. It would be a huge chaos here if there weren't so many voluntary helpers.[/QUOTE] Except for 6 billion euros?
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48675124]Well, they can, it's just 800,000 or more of them are expected to arrive.[/QUOTE] This year...
[QUOTE=freakadella;48675545]This year...[/QUOTE] Both figures are per year. [editline]I need to sleep.[/editline] Oh wait, that was already mentioned above.
I live in Munich and there piles of foreign families sleeping behind billboards on the central station at night. Neo-Nazi rallies... reports and rumors about sexual assault by immigrants... burning refugee homes... threats. The situation is not good.
does this mean a return of the bundesgrenzschutz? [t]http://www.beim-alten-bgs.de/Zu_den_Kameradenseiten/Der_BGS_in_Walsrode/1959_Walsrode__19_.JPG[/t] In all seriousness This doesn't surprise me, Germany wasn't being realistic, and now they are learning the hard way
[QUOTE=Srillo;48674468]It may have been helpful to setup such a system [B]before[/B] committing to taking in hundreds of thousands of people, most of whom you can't process in a timely matter, nor confirm if they're even refugees.[/QUOTE] There is obviously a system in place for processing asylum applications but he's talking about some sort of magical speed test to replace the long bureaucratic process. On the other hand we already have the dublin system since 2005 which entails an EU wide fingerprint database (gathered from every asylum seeker) for "unauthorised entrants" used to determine which country is responsible for processing the asylum claim. It's in place to prevent applying for asylum in multiple countries and denial of asylum in one EU country means denial in every EU country. This means that usually the EU country the asylum seeker entered first will process their application. The burden (both political and actual) however became too large for EU's border states (for example Hungary) to handle and they stopped receiving back applicants who tried submitting applications in other EU countries other than the one they initially entered. In response Germany suspended the Dublin regulation and is processing all comers due to the fact that many "entrance" countries have simply stopped receiving and processing asylum applicants who have passed through into other countries. Some sort of solidarity quotas should probably be put in place but certain countries (Poland, Slovakia and Hungary) have pre-emptively rejected any solidarity measures in a display of great team effort. edit: it's still obvious that europe has the best available resources for taking care of the refugees and an even worse humanitarian catastrophe would ensue if we tried to just stop all asylum seekers from seeking shelter in europe.
Weeell... that's quite something.
If only europe could simply say "No migrants allowed, you will be turned back, don't come" Let the (rich) Arab states deal with their brethren, we don't own them shit.
[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;48680284]does this mean a return of the bundesgrenzschutz? [t]http://www.beim-alten-bgs.de/Zu_den_Kameradenseiten/Der_BGS_in_Walsrode/1959_Walsrode__19_.JPG[/t] In all seriousness This doesn't surprise me, Germany wasn't being realistic, and now they are learning the hard way[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? Bundesgrenzschutz was active until 2005 now it's part of the state police but still active under another name.
Lets face it, everyone saw this coming except for Merkel. Yes somebody should help those immigrants, but Germany is not in the position to do it.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48681133]Lets face it, everyone saw this coming except for Merkel. Yes somebody should help those immigrants, but Germany is not in the position to do it.[/QUOTE] Germany? No country is willing to accept migrants, nobody wants them. With this mentality nobody is in the position to do anything. I'm glad their government is closing borders because they get shit done. Here in Italy we don't have anybody to enforce rules
Germany you don't have to try so hard we forgive you just chill with swinging Europe around
Germanys border control isn't doing shit. They have placed them inside of germany, and if they take up illegal immigrants then sending them back is juridically only possible at the actual border. Also, they just wink most of the incoming vehicles through like they aren't even trying. (Look at 0:30) [video=youtube;6qvWVFfTLWM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qvWVFfTLWM[/video] If our politicans won't stop with this bullshit this really will take a bad end.
[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48681133] Yes somebody should help those immigrants, but Germany is not in the position to do it.[/QUOTE] If the economic powerhouse of the EU can't why expect backwaters like Poland to?
[QUOTE=kweh;48674538]Everyone wants to be a saint up until it means they have to roll up their sleeves and actually do something.[/QUOTE] if other people actually made as much of an attempt to help out as germany did the weight would have been more evenly distributed and Germany wouldnt have hit capacity so quickly germany is always getting the brunt of the load when it comes to shit like this. no one else wants to help. [editline]15th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;48690878]If the economic powerhouse of the EU can't why expect backwaters like Poland to?[/QUOTE] it cant if it's the ONLY ONE TRYING.
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