Internet darkness ending for the Balkans? Croatia has a high speed broadband internet plan!
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[QUOTE]After several years of discussion about models and the price of building a national network which would grant the citizens of Croatia access to at least 30Mbps internet, and up to over 100Mbps, which also includes the change of telephone wires with fiber optics, the numbers and plans have finally been revealed. The Government will, according to scenarios made by the leading Croatian consultant house for optics Lator, by 2020. invest from 7,65 to 12 billion HRK(1 billion to 2 billion €) into introducing high speed internet into common households.
Darko Parich, assistant Minister of e-Croatia, stated that Lator's studies, which were commissioned by the Ministry of Marine Traffic, Traffic, and Infrastructure(MPPI/MMTTI), have been accepted as a foundation plan for the Government's investment program. "It is correct that it's all about an investment wave," states Parich. Lator's study being a "selection of the finest models of financial and incentive measures for the country's broadband access" was also confirmed by the chief of the Sector of Electronic Communications and Postal Service of the MMTTI, Kresho Antonovich. "According to that plan the country will first connect free optic capacities in public companies, of which has been spoken about as the new "state telecom", which will connect all requiring cities and settlements, to later give local administration the right to find the best model of construction of such a system in their regions.", says Antonovich.
He also adds that such a model of construction and ownership over the fiber optics infrastructure is stimulated by the European Commission via structural funds and the new instrument Connecting Europe Facility in which can be found additional 9,2 billion euros for such projects. Although Antonovich as a successful home example of such investments notes the introduction of fiber optics(project FFTH) in the Zagreb neighborhood Sopnica, which was built by Digital City, a sub company of Zagreb Holding, Parich is more skeptical about letting local administration to run such ambitious investment plans, and adds that it would be one of the main points of discussion during the next three months.
Tomislav Majnarich, high consultant of Lator, in an interview for Poslovni Dnevnik, explains that the highest investor in modern networks will eventually become not the government, but private ISPs. He adds that project FTTH will be continued in every location with a population of over 2000 and that it will be commercially profitable in a time span of five to ten years, and that the state will lead a key role in more sparsely populated areas of the country, where the demand is high, but is not profitable at the same time.
"Optics would be constructed only where it's most profitable, which means that by 2020 all cities and high population villages would get it, and that makes for some 50% of the population. The rest would get VDSL and LTE", says Majnarich. Parich notes that the plan is not in a questionable phase anymore, and that it will be coordinated by the CEI - the Center for Monitoring of the Energetic Sector and Investments, and that the first investments are to be expected this year. "It is not known if the "State Telecom" will be OiV, HEP or some third party, but installing high speed broadband is as vital as installing electricity into one's home, meaning that it would significantly impact the nation's development as well", Perich concludes.[/QUOTE]
[I]Meanwhile, in the ruins of Corporate Croatia...[/I]
[QUOTE]Ivica Mudrinich, president of Croatian Telecommunications company(the lead ISP in Croatia), has in a recent "Direct Overseas Investments" conference, which was also attended by the vice president of the Government Branko Grchich, criticized the Government and the city administrations. "Having the state enter the telecom sector and spend money on developing it, along with some cities making a decision to build network infrastructure via parallel local communal firms, rather than major network providers, is a disloyal attack on the companies which run the business."
While CT is attacking the government's plan, Vipnet remains cautious and is not commenting, while alternative firms and provider seekers are greeting competition which will lower the price and demand for higher and better internet.
"It is correct that the country will compete against Croatian Telecommunications, but not only is that in tune with EU regulations, but we would also stir up the public demand and make high speed networks more profitable than low speed networks, making them compete harder, and with better contracts", states Darko Parich.[/QUOTE]
Source 1: [URL]http://www.poslovni.hr/hrvatska/brzi-internet-u-svakoj-kuci-stajat-ce-najmanje-8-mlrd-kuna-227210#social-article[/URL]
Source 2: [URL]http://www.vecernji.hr/biznis/brzi-internet-tocno-je-drzava-ce-konkurirati-ht-u-clanak-499339[/URL]
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I get 120Mbps for $30. Hungary.
Central EU / Balkans are not really behind in terms of Internet speeds. On par with Northern EU, I'd say.
So the next time I log on to game, I might see
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Tito dreamed of this day.
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;39268522]I get 120Mbps for $30. Hungary.
Central EU / Balkans are not really behind in terms of Internet speeds. On par with Northern EU, I'd say.[/QUOTE]
I'm paying 35 euros for 5Mbit download and 0.3 Mbit upload. And while high speed fiber optics broadband is available in some regions for a rather decent price depending on ISP and contract(stability not counting into the factor), installing it costs some 4000+ euros per household, so unless you're going to get a loan high speed is out of the question.
Having the state provide new wiring, and maybe even run it's own ISP would be a saving grace for the market, as companies like CT are textbook definitions of monopoly firms. I mean, they already technically do it with CARNet and it's batshit insane 50Mbit rate present in most institutions capable of covering the costs, so why not use the surplus to connect the people to the new grid as well? We still run on the ages old Yugoslav military network installations in some regions, and some villages in rural areas don't even have proper telephone lines going to them, so mass telecom restructuring is a welcome reform for those that use internet or want more connection with the world.
[QUOTE=mac338;39268533]So the next time I log on to game, I might see
[I]CR? Gibe head of Serb pls
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[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;39268522]I get 120Mbps for $30. Hungary.
Central EU / Balkans are not really behind in terms of Internet speeds. On par with Northern EU, I'd say.[/QUOTE]
WHAT.
I get 7Mbps Down/ 500k for $30 in the US here
[QUOTE=Alcoholocaust;39269054]HUEskyHUEskyHUEARGHsvdnek
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[QUOTE=areolop;39269123]WHAT.
I get 7Mbps Down/ 500k for $30 in the US here[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Most European countries have REALLY good internet, and don't shaft the users constantly. 20/20 fiber optic for 14€ a month. And no "up to" bullshit, CONSTANTLY 20/20.
[QUOTE=areolop;39269123]WHAT.
I get 7Mbps Down/ 500k for $30 in the US here[/QUOTE]
Unrestricted 100/50 for $45 here, I'm from Sweden
.. My city needs to pass this stuff to allow ISPs to lay more fiber in my area.. currently its restricted to only businesses
unrestricted "20mb/s" download and "2mb/s" upload for $50 a month here in Nova Scotia
Regularly $64 :suicide:
I pay 15/4 unlimited for 15 euros / 20 dollars here.
MOTHERFUCKING EUROPE
I hope we'll get some Balkan Facepunchers soon hopefully!
[QUOTE=kaine123;39272037]I hope we'll get some Balkan Facepunchers soon hopefully![/QUOTE]
You already do, I'm from Bosnia and I noticed a few from Croatia and Serbia.
I do pay like 60$ for 10/1, the biggest ripoff ever. Not to mention it's also the best internet from my ISP.
We've had fast connections here (Serbia) for a while, so I don't see how this "internet darkness" you speak of is ending for the Balkans (unless by [I]the Balkans[/I] you mean just Croatia).
The ISPs certainly aren't among the cheaper ones, though, I'll give you that.
our internet here is like $200 and we get something like 30/4.
[QUOTE=areolop;39269123]WHAT.
I get 7Mbps Down/ 500k for $30 in the US here[/QUOTE]
I pay $75 for 8Mbps/384k with a 120gb download limit.
Fucking Australia. Its still years away until we get fiber
[QUOTE=kaine123;39272037]I hope we'll get some Balkan Facepunchers soon hopefully![/QUOTE]
Hello :D
The bulgarian internet I have used is faster than my home internet (UK).
edit: Bulgaria is balkan for anyone who didn't know.
Christ, even Croatia is more serious about investing in fiber infrastructure than the US.
[QUOTE=croguy;39268491]TL;DR: Hell is freezing over, pigs are flying, the [B]Mayans are resurrecting[/B], oceans are drying up, aliens are invading, Afghanistan is becoming a superpower, and a meteor which emerged from a black hole next to the Moon is heading straight for Earth.[/QUOTE]
Called it.
100/20 for 24€ in Estonia.
[QUOTE=BlackMac;39272359]You already do, I'm from Bosnia and I noticed a few from Croatia and Serbia.
I do pay like 60$ for 10/1, the biggest ripoff ever. Not to mention it's also the best internet from my ISP.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Slovenians :<
30/1 for $30 in Czech republic
[QUOTE=areolop;39269123]WHAT.
I get 7Mbps Down/ 500k for $30 in the US here[/QUOTE]
70$ a month for about 60gb download limit at anything from 50-450kb/s download. Cuts out in rain and stormy weather. Gotta love those Australian plans.
[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;39276197]70$ a month for about 60gb download limit at anything from 50-450kb/s download. Cuts out in rain and stormy weather. Gotta love those Australian plans.[/QUOTE]
Australian internet is full of shit most of the time.
[QUOTE=kaine123;39272037]I hope we'll get some Balkan Facepunchers soon hopefully![/QUOTE]
Hi
[QUOTE=Araknid;39276241]Australian internet is full of shit most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, in megabits I get 100 down, 0.5 up. What the fuck kind of ratio is that Optus?
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