Vatican: Ordaining women just as bad as raping kids - Polidicks

[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/15/vatican-attempted-ordination-women-grave-crime[/url] [release]The Vatican today made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes under church law, putting it in the same category as clerical sex abuse of minors, heresy and schism. The new rules, which have been sent to bishops around the world, apply equally to Catholic women who agree to a ceremony of ordination and to the bishop who conducts it. Both would be excommunicated. Since the Vatican does not accept that women can become priests, it does not recognise the outcome of any such ceremony. The latest move, which appeared to bar and bolt the door to Catholic women priests, came at a time when the Church of England moved in the opposite direction, to a step closer to the ordination of female bishops. The Vatican's reclassification of attempted female ordination was part of a revision of a 2001 decree, the main purpose of which was to tighten up the rules on sex abuse by priests in reaction to the scandals that have been sweeping through the church since January. The most important change is to extend the period during which a clergyman can be tried by a church court from 10 to 20 years, dating from the 18th birthday of his victim. The new rules introduce speedier procedures for dealing with the most urgent and serious cases; allowed for lay people to form part of church tribunals that judge such cases; put abuse of the mentally disabled on a level with that of minors, and introduced a new crime of paedophile pornography. The pope's spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, stressed that the changes applied solely to canon, or church, law. They had no bearing on whether suspected offenders should be reported to the civil authorities. He said that issue had already been dealt with earlier this year in instructions making it clear to bishops that they must report cases promptly. The Vatican was working on further instructions "so that the directives it issues on the subject of sexual abuse of minors, either by the clergy or institutions connected with the church, may be increasingly rigorous, coherent and effective," he said.[/release] I guess it's OK then?

Oh wow

He's completely right you'know, letting women preach God is utterly worse than raping boys. God would be proud. The Catholic Church has become a joke.

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[QUOTE=Article]The most important change is to extend the period during which a clergyman can be tried by a church court from 10 to 20 years[/QUOTE] "You've hidden the fact that you've been abusing children for 21 years? Huh, God must be on your side, then, so that's totally cool now."

So to clear it up, the list of immoral things from least to most immoral for Catholics is: [b]Tier 1:[/b] 7 deadly sins [b]Tier 2:[/b] Breaking the 10 commandments [b]Tier 3:[/b] Schism, heresy, molesting children, and having a vagina [b]Bonus Tier:[/b] Enforcing the third one in tier 3

Catholic Church still idiotic bigots? Yeah? Ok, thought so.

You know, a priest molesting a kid to me is no different than a boy scout leader molesting a kid? Does that make all boy scout leaders pedophiles, like most people like to say all priests are pedos? I'm not a Catholic, I'll never even think about becoming one, and this is just fucked up. How dare they put themselves on a moral high ground and claim they know what's right and what's wrong? Morality is only relative. But to say that all priests are kiddy fiddlers is putting yourselves on a moral high ground, claiming you're better than them, when in fact you're doing the same shit that they're doing.

[QUOTE=Insulator;23395845]You know, a priest molesting a kid to me is no different than a boy scout leader molesting a kid? Does that make all boy scout leaders pedophiles, like most people like to say all priests are pedos? I'm not a Catholic, I'll never even think about becoming one, and this is just fucked up. How dare they put themselves on a moral high ground and claim they know what's right and what's wrong? Morality is only relative. But to say that all priests are kiddy fiddlers is putting yourselves on a moral high ground, claiming you're better than them, when in fact you're doing the same shit that they're doing.[/QUOTE] Fun fact: Boy Scouts are a christian organization

God damn I hate the Vatican. They have an entire archive full of some of the greatest scientific works known to man, Galileo and the like. But the problem is the show is run by fucking bigots.

Holy shit, this is so fucking dumb that I can't even make a pun about it [editline]04:01AM[/editline] No, wait "They better be Vaticating the premises before they get beaten by a mob of angry women" Still golden :v:

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;23395943]God damn I hate the Vatican. They have an entire archive full of some of the greatest scientific works known to man, Galileo and the like. But the problem is the show is run by fucking bigots.[/QUOTE] You can check stuff out of the vatican's archives. We should organize a world-wide scheme to check everything out and then never give it back. :v:

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I am so happy that we live in a time where we are able to take a look at the workings of religious organizations and criticize their faults without the fear of being harmed/ousted/or killed.

[QUOTE=The golden;23397298] Fucking Vatican and [B]everyone in it needs to die.[/B][/QUOTE] That is the problem with the Vatican and all religions, this mentality. The true enemy is ignorance from any ideology. Religions are perfectly fine as long as they abide to the law, do not infringe on a persons rights, or obstruct our technological progress.

I would fucking love to see the Vatican carpet bombed and the remains burned to the goddamn ground. I don't even care how stupid it sounds. It's true.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23397335]That is the problem with the Vatican and all religions, this mentality. The true enemy is ignorance from any ideology. Religions are perfectly fine as long as they abide to the law, do not infringe on a persons rights, or obstruct our technological progress.[/QUOTE] too bad religions do none of that, so they have to go.

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;23397075]I am so happy that we live in a time where we are able to take a look at the workings of religious organizations and criticize their faults without the fear of being harmed/ousted/or killed.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I very much enjoy not being hung by the legs upside-down and then being sawed in half. You bet they did that

Fuck you Vatican. I get some comfort from the fact that the number of atheists is growing, because the sooner religion gets phased out, the faster we can start evolving ideas, and moving forward as a species.

[I]"Forgive me father for I have sinned: I have a vagina" [/I]

[QUOTE=The golden;23397538]They probably would have flayed you instead. [/QUOTE] I don't know which I would prefer actually

This corruption is what causes splits in the church. *Prints out article for friend*

[QUOTE=Glaber;23398039]This corruption is what causes splits in the church. *Prints out article for friend*[/QUOTE] Corruption? This is just religion. Also, to the guy making the boy scouts comparison: The Boy Scouts of America is headed by the Mormon faith. Need more be said?

And you don't think religion can be corrupted? A previous time got us the Protestant Church partly because of the selling of indulgences that "supposedly" allowed you to buy your way into forgiveness, or rather, it was an exploitation of sinners so the Church could afford something.

[QUOTE=Glaber;23398391]And you don't think religion can be corrupted? A previous time got us the Protestant Church partly because of the selling of indulgences that "supposedly" allowed you to buy your way into forgiveness, or rather, it was an exploitation of sinners so the Church could afford something.[/QUOTE] He's saying that it's not corruption, just religion, which is true for most any organized religion.