• New MH17 footage confirms Russian rebels thought it was military transporter.
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[img]http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2015/02/21/1227233/702315-5c41e380-b98b-11e4-a005-b478f5906d65.jpg[/img] [quote] INVESTIGATORS probing the shooting down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 have uncovered new footage, featuring militia trawling through burning wreckage and Australian luggage and [B]bragging over what they thought had been a military transporter.[/B] The stunning 23 minutes of footage, watched by News Corp Australia, was found being passed around rebels in Donetsk before a copy was smuggled out of the rebel-held east Ukraine region and passed to investigators. [B]Source:[/B] [url]http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/new-mh17-footage-shows-militia-trawling-through-burning-wreckage-and-australian-luggage/story-fnh81p7g-1227233702395[/url] [/quote] Uh oh. More to come I guess...
Dumbasses
Full military support for Ukraine [B]NOW[/B].
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47184704]Dumbasses[/QUOTE] No, it's pronounced Donbasses. :P
That's what some of them have stated pretty much during the first week or so, tho...
Uh oh......shit just got serious ( i hope )
Wonder if news corp is going to drop this footage in the wild...
I dream when that day comes and the little fucking assholes backed up by Russia who did this are properly sent through a trial and put behind bars.
Clearly the entire thing was photoshopped and staged by Ukrainian soldiers and Hollywood to discredit the Ukrainian rebels. Don't you remember that satellite image? We already proved that a Ukrainian fighter jet shot down the airliner at a height of 100 miles above the Earth.
Where's Karimatrix when you need him?
"The [Budapest] memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine as well as those of Belarus and Kazakhstan." Soooo both territorial integrity and political independence was violated by Russia and yet the powers of the 1994 Budapest memorandum have yet to act on their behalf of the pact. Doubt they will do much at this point seeing how far this is dragging out now.
I doubt anything will happen just like last time
[QUOTE=Superwafflez;47184812]Where's Karimatrix when you need him?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48[/media] There, I'm doing the speaking for him.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47184742]That's what some of them have stated pretty much during the first week or so, tho...[/QUOTE] Remember that scumbag Russian commander of the rebels bragging about having shot down the flight before noticing that they shot a civilian airliner? And that said commander just hopped the border back to Russia not long after that was found out? Let's see how the usual Putin cocklickers defend this shit.
[QUOTE=Jordax;47184840]Remember that scumbag Russian commander of the rebels bragging about having shot down the flight before noticing that they shot a civilian airliner? [/QUOTE] Igor Girkin [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin[/url]
I highly doubt anything will happen from the West hear me out before people start piling on me for being a "Russian Sympathiser" cause I'm not The Russians have done this before, I think it was Korean Airlines in the 1980's This plane flew close to Russian borders late at night while heading to Korea (?) and the Soviets lost their shit and went ballistic They tried communicating with the plane but they weren't responding and it was getting closer So they scrambled a jet up there to check it out and he knew himself it was a Boeing but wasn't going to disobey orders and shot the plane Everyone died, Soviets kept the blackboxes, cold war intensified and got hot but nothing happened Nobody wants to intervene as sad as this sounds because you're playing a dangerous game It's hard to explain but you should get my drift
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47184875]I highly doubt anything will happen from the West hear me out before people start piling on me for being a "Russian Sympathiser" cause I'm not The Russians have done this before, I think it was Korean Airlines in the 1980's This plane flew close to Russian borders late at night while heading to Korea (?) and the Soviets lost their shit and went ballistic They tried communicating with the plane but they weren't responding and it was getting closer So they scrambled a jet up there to check it out and he knew himself it was a Boeing but wasn't going to obey orders and shot the plane Everyone died, Soviets kept the blackboxes, cold war intensified and got hot but nothing happened Nobody wants to intervene as sad as this sounds because you're playing a dangerous game It's hard to explain but you should get my drift[/QUOTE] You're right, and i still don't see why there would be an intervention i mean it's not like Ukraine is in NATO or the EU and asfaik they don't have any defensive treaties with anyone. Also the rebels had downed a number of Ukrainian army aircraft in the area prior to this incident and i'm pretty sure Malaysian Airlines was the only airline that routed their flights over an active war zone.
There was a whole string of aircraft flying that particular route, MH17 was just the unlucky victim. Still beats me why flying over a known hot zone is acceptable...
[QUOTE=Angua;47184927]You're right, and i still don't see why there would be an intervention i mean it's not like Ukraine is in NATO or the EU and asfaik they don't have any defensive treaties with anyone. Also the rebels had downed a number of Ukrainian army aircraft in the area prior to this incident and i'm pretty sure Malaysian Airlines was the only airline that routed their flights over an active war zone.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure several airlines used that route despite there being a conflict there. I strictly remember after the MH17 got shot down, that Finnair said they would not re-route their planes going to Asia because of what had happened.
[QUOTE=Angua;47184927]You're right, and i still don't see why there would be an intervention i mean it's not like Ukraine is in NATO or the EU and asfaik they don't have any defensive treaties with anyone. Also the rebels had downed a number of Ukrainian army aircraft in the area prior to this incident and i'm pretty sure Malaysian Airlines was the only airline that routed their flights over an active war zone.[/QUOTE] IIRC Malaysian Airlines was not the only airline company to fly over Ukraine (in particular warzones) due to the fact it was cheaper and faster to get to whatever destination was passed it
[QUOTE=Angua;47184927]You're right, and i still don't see why there would be an intervention i mean it's not like Ukraine is in NATO or the EU and asfaik they don't have any defensive treaties with anyone. [/QUOTE] This argument would somewhat hold water (in the loosest possible definition) if we were talking about military intervention in ukraine for the sake of ukrainian people. We're talking about russian-"backed" "rebels"/"separatists" or whatever dumb nickname they have today and fuck knows how many quotation marks I have to use shooting down a plane full of european passangers, mostly dutch. A direct action against european citizens. It's a fucking disgrace and a disgusting thing to defend russian actions, and especially their soldiers performing war crimes in Ukraine. You'd expect some of the hardcore russian supporters on FP to have some kind of a common sense after the downed flight but that was way too much to expect. I cannot possibly know how the families of the passengers on that flight feel today. I really hope that the person responsible for this entire dumb mess is going to face consequences, sooner or later.
Won't it be weird if Malaysia gives militant support before the West? I wish we'd just go to war with russia already instead of coyly glancing at each other from across the playground like we've been doing since the late forties. shit's getting old. To quote a great philosopher: "You two should just fuck already and get it over with"
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47185039]Won't it be weird if Malaysia gives militant support before the West? I wish we'd just go to war with russia already instead of coyly glancing at each other from across the playground like we've been doing since the late forties. shit's getting old. To quote a great philosopher: "You two should just fuck already and get it over with"[/QUOTE] nominate this good man for US presidency asap
[QUOTE=Melnek;47185057]nominate this good man for US presidency asap[/QUOTE] Gee thanks, Israel's next.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47184875]I highly doubt anything will happen from the West hear me out before people start piling on me for being a "Russian Sympathiser" cause I'm not The Russians have done this before, I think it was Korean Airlines in the 1980's This plane flew close to Russian borders late at night while heading to Korea (?) and the Soviets lost their shit and went ballistic They tried communicating with the plane but they weren't responding and it was getting closer So they scrambled a jet up there to check it out and he knew himself it was a Boeing but wasn't going to disobey orders and shot the plane Everyone died, Soviets kept the blackboxes, cold war intensified and got hot but nothing happened Nobody wants to intervene as sad as this sounds because you're playing a dangerous game It's hard to explain but you should get my drift[/QUOTE] Yeah, but since russia "is not involved ( :v: ) " then helping ukraine with military hardware and training would help turn the tide eventually
[QUOTE=recolour;47185138]Yeah, but since russia "is not involved ( :v: ) " then helping ukraine with military hardware and training would help turn the tide eventually[/QUOTE] But Russia is involved. Why doesn't the west understand this?
[QUOTE=isreal?;47185157]But Russia is involved. Why doesn't the west understand this?[/QUOTE] of course its involved but they (Putin) try to make us understand otherwise, and since "they are not" we should totally help them
PUTIN KHUILO fucking bastards. NATO needs to get in there now and end this nonsense
[QUOTE=isreal?;47185157]But Russia is involved. Why doesn't the west understand this?[/QUOTE] And do you think US and western secret agents aren't in Ukraine at this very moment or what? Everyone's involved, the cold truth is that the west doesn't see it being worth to invest so much into Ukraine.
[QUOTE=recolour;47185168]of course its involved but they (Putin) try to make us understand otherwise, and since "they are not" we should totally help them[/QUOTE] I believe the word you're looking for is that they're lying. If the U.S. sent troops into Donbass (They'll never do that), Putin would invade Ukraine outright I think.
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