• Kim Jong Il's Eldest Son Predicts Failure for North Korea
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[release] [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/photos/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-il-dies-at-69-1324265719-slideshow/kim-jong-ils-eldest-son-predicts-failure-north-photo-145349584--abc-news.html"][IMG]http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/sX_4PgztTUBOOGjNJAmRmA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0xMDc7cT04NTt3PTE5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.go.com/gty_kim_jong_nam_thg_111230_wmain.jpg[/IMG][/URL]Kim Jong Il's Eldest Son Predicts Failure for North Korea (ABC News) The eldest son of late North Korean leader [URL="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AmWCqk53njzatj5dRKGkBY.mWot4;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDgxZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTNoOG1xNHE1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDN2U0NmFlZDctNzMwMy0zNjk2LWI3NzMtNWExMzZlOGNiYmNmBHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljc3xkZXN0aW5hdGlvbjIwMTIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD;_ylv=0/SIG=13ce6bncp/EXP=1328030714/**http%3A//International/kim-jong-il-funeral-thousands-mourn-north-korea/story%3Fid=15244457"]Kim Jong Il [/URL]questions his half brother's ability to lead the reclusive regime, and predicts failure in a new book set for release in Japan this week. Titled "My Father, Kim Jong Il, and Me," the book is based on reported interviews and emails between Japanese journalist Yoji Gomi and Kim Jong Nam, over a seven year period. It offers a revealing look at the inner workings of the Kim family. On the issue of succession, Kim Jong Nam says his father initially opposed the hereditary transfer of power, saying it would damage his accomplishments, along with those of his father Kim Il Sung, the late leader. He eventually changed his mind, convinced that a continuation of the Kim family line was necessary to maintain stability in North Korea. "The dynastic succession is a joke to the outside world," Kim Jong Nam says in the book, according to excerpts published by the South Korean daily, Chosun Ilbo. "The [URL="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ak.U4SIoGMKpfBlW.xwLFvqmWot4;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaWd2Ymg3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTNoOG1xNHE1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDN2U0NmFlZDctNzMwMy0zNjk2LWI3NzMtNWExMzZlOGNiYmNmBHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljc3xkZXN0aW5hdGlvbjIwMTIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD;_ylv=0/SIG=1401mnt86/EXP=1328030714/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/kim-jung-un-details-questions-emerge-about-nkoreas-new-leader/"]Kim Jong Un [/URL]regime will not last long." Kim Jong Nam says his half brother was tapped to be the next leader solely because he physically resembled his grandfather. He reveals he has never met Kim Jong Un. "Without reforms, North Korea will collapse, and when such changes take place, the regime will collapse," he says. "I think we will see valuable time lost as the regime sits idle fretting over whether it should pursue reforms or stick to the present political structure." Kim Jong Nam has made no secret of his rift from the rest of the Kim family. Known as a playboy, the eldest son spends much of his time in Macau. He was arrested in 2001, after he tried to sneak into Japan with a fake passport to go to Tokyo Disneyland, falling out of favor with his father. The eldest son was largely absent from any of Kim Jong Il's official funeral coverage, which aired on North Korea's state media. Still, Kim Jong Nam says ideological differences, not his personal lifestyle, caused his father to turn against him. "After I went back to North Korea following my education in Switzerland, I grew further apart from my father because I insisted on reform and market-opening and was eventually viewed with suspicion," he says. "I told him honestly how the international community was concerned about the nuclear tests and missile launches and I am asking him to train my brother well in order to ensure a good life for the people." Kim Jong Nam also discusses Pyongyang's deadly shelling of Yeonpyeong island in 2010, calling it a provocation that allowed the North Korean military to "justify their status and existence and possession of nuclear weapons."[/release] [URL]http://news.yahoo.com/kim-jong-ils-eldest-son-predicts-failure-north-145349221--abc-news.html[/URL] Its just a matter of when....
This is the son who tried to go to Disneyland Tokyo and allegedly sits around playing video games all day
Of course the sensible one wont get the role as a leader.
[QUOTE=smurfy;34259744]This is the son who tried to go to Disneyland Tokyo and allegedly sits around playing video games all day[/QUOTE] I beleive so. "From roughly 1998 to 2001, he was widely considered to be the heir-apparent to his father and the next leader of North Korea. Following a much-publicized botched attempt to secretly enter Japan using a fake passport and visit Disneyland in May 2001, he was thought to have fallen out of favor with his father." -Wiki
[QUOTE=smurfy;34259744]This is the son who tried to go to Disneyland Tokyo and allegedly sits around playing video games all day[/QUOTE] It's like he wants to put people in deaths way and cause more problems for the people of NK. I mean, what else has he got besides putting out laws that destroys the country ?
Why couldn't he take over? I actually kinda like him. He seems like a pretty thought out guy.
Seems like a pretty jealous guy. Edit: But you are all willing to unquestioningly believe him because what he says suits you.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;34259791]It's like he wants to put people in deaths way and cause more problems for the people of NK. I mean, what else has he got besides putting out laws that destroys the country ?[/QUOTE]You are aware that Kim Jong Nam didn't take over, right? That was his half brother. Its in the article. Kim Jong Nam actually wants reform and progressive policies put in place, and wants to make North Korea a much more reasonable place.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34259797]Why couldn't he take over? I actually kinda like him. He seems like a pretty thought out guy.[/QUOTE] You answered your own question
[QUOTE=smurfy;34259864]You answered your own question[/QUOTE]Yeah, but you can always hope.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34259797]Why couldn't he take over? I actually kinda like him. He seems like a pretty thought out guy.[/QUOTE] He seems to also enjoy the world outside of North Korea. Makes me wonder that if he became leader, he might have let the people know about the better world. Maybe that's why Kim Jong Il had him dropped out of favor.
North Korea will never fail under the leadership of our GLORIOUS BELOVED LEADER.
[QUOTE=Jackald;34259852]Implying it's not already incredibly fucked up?[/QUOTE] Implying the last domino falls here.
[quote]"Without reforms, North Korea will collapse, and when such changes take place, the regime will collapse,"[/quote] He could be onto something here, bear in mind he's seen the difference between North Korea and western countries.
That book sounds fantastic, nice ad.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;34259931][media]"Without reforms, North Korea will collapse, and when such changes take place, the regime will collapse,"[/media] He could be onto something here, bear in mind he's seen the difference between North Korea and western countries.[/QUOTE] Yes he has. He went to school in Switzerland, has visited Japan and left the country on multiple occasions. He plays with new tech like Ipads, goes to Disney Land and invites big American bands to come play for him in North Korea.
[quote]"After I went back to North Korea following my education in Switzerland, I grew further apart from my father because I insisted on reform and market-opening and was eventually viewed with suspicion," he says. "I told him honestly how the international community was concerned about the nuclear tests and missile launches and I am asking him to train my brother well in order to ensure a good life for the people."[/quote] Well fuck, he actually seems like a positive force. It's a damn shame his father alienated him.
The collapse of North Korea is both a welcoming and terrifying event. On one hand, you have a terrible dictatorship finally rotted away, but I'm sure in the process there will be hundreds, if not thousands of deaths and chaos to ensue. Hopefully if everything goes right, South Korea will be given custody of the north in a way, to take care of it as it gets reassembled, and then hopefully fully merged into their nation.
And he'll disappear to the coal mines. Or be shot.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34260228]The collapse of North Korea is both a welcoming and terrifying event. On one hand, you have a terrible dictatorship finally rotted away, but I'm sure in the process there will be hundreds, if not thousands of deaths and chaos to ensue. Hopefully if everything goes right, South Korea will be given custody of the north in a way, to take care of it as it gets reassembled, and then hopefully fully merged into their nation.[/QUOTE] South Korea dreads reunification because they think it's going to be millions of people flooding over looking for hand outs. [editline]17th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=zombini;34260241]And he'll disappear to the coal mines. Or be shot.[/QUOTE] Do you read the articles before you post?
[QUOTE=zombini;34260241]And he'll disappear to the coal mines. Or be shot.[/QUOTE]He's still a part of the family, so ultimately the most they could do is exile him. It pretty much boils down to ignoring him or trying to make him look like a joke.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34260256]South Korea dreads reunification because they think it's going to be millions of people flooding over looking for hand outs. [/QUOTE] That's why I didn't say unification right away. I would say let South Korea "occupy" the north, and slowly intergrate it with the south over a period of time. Immediate unification would kill off both states. Reeducate the northerners about the world outside their prison, then build up the infrastructure. Allow resettlements between North Koreans and South Koreans in a very controlled manner. I can't really picture this process taking anything shorter than a couple decades, sadly. Anything before that would be an impossible, deadly rush.
Though basically this man is right, it doesn't change the fact that this statement might have personal reasons behind it. He might be trying to make North Koreas leadership and people question his brother to improve his own position or just as petty revenge, I don't mean this for granted ofcourse, these are just examples.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34260228]The collapse of North Korea is both a welcoming and terrifying event. On one hand, you have a terrible dictatorship finally rotted away, but I'm sure in the process there will be hundreds, if not thousands of deaths and chaos to ensue. Hopefully if everything goes right, South Korea will be given custody of the north in a way, to take care of it as it gets reassembled, and then hopefully fully merged into their nation.[/QUOTE] I laugh at your optimism. North Korea will in fact become China's newest province when it does finally collapse.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;34264832]I laugh at your optimism. North Korea will in fact become China's newest province when it does finally collapse.[/QUOTE] There's nothing wrong with hope. I don't see China doing that. For one, China already stated that they wouldn't mind Korean unification under the South Korean government. And for another, the US, SK and Japan would never allow such a thing to happen.
[QUOTE=Techno-Man;34259890]North Korea will never fail under the leadership of our GLORIOUS BELOVED LEADER.[/QUOTE] I thought new leader was GENIUS AMONG GENIUSES?
[QUOTE=aurum481;34259765]Of course the sensible one wont get the role as a leader.[/QUOTE] I'd be hesitant to call him sensible. While he may be the lesser of two evils, it wouldn't be a stretch to say he's only critizing the government because he was passed over when it came time for a new leader.
He would be more like Un if he was chosen to be the next leader. If Kim Jong Nam was chosen to be leader he would probably be more like his father and Un would be more like Nam.
[QUOTE=smurfy;34259744]This is the son who tried to go to Disneyland Tokyo and allegedly sits around playing video games all day[/QUOTE] This guy should totally become the next Glorious Leader It'd be like a feel-good comedy, only with oppressive regimes and dead people
And instead, we get [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Yc51qdfRHi8/Tu_Q80UFRsI/AAAAAAAABMs/CVo65ydAs3o/s1600/Kim-Jong-un.jpg[/img]
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