• Rant: What are viruses really?
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[url]http://www.klein-klein-aktion.de/contents/Questions/questions.html[/url] Quotes from the website: [quote]Dr Lanka states emphatically that no viruses exist in Plants, Animals or Humans. He has asked people not to believe him directly but to question the authorities directly themselves.[/quote] Somebody with time and budget to get all the publications, and more experience, should do this. [quote]There are in fact thousands of viruses in a litre of sea-water, but we do not get an infectious disease when we go for a swim in the sea?[/quote] A virus is meant to infect someting. That's why it's called a virus. If this statement is true why doesn't it happen then? [quote]I also learned that all viruses of a particular type, all have the same shape and consistency. They one thing all these photographs have in common is that they all show viruses with different shapes. Dr Lanka states emphatically that these so-called pictures of viruses, do not show a virus that is isolated from its host cell.[/quote] How does a real virus look? Apparently, if this is true (it's more likely it is, but it also may not be) that means viruses are harmless creatures? Does that mean the New World Order is really messing with them making them infect us? Or the things that give flu are not viruses? What are they? [B]I do not believe anything, until final and real proof is given. This rant is more likely speculative, but it's based on logic and that organisation's experience on the subject, and the alleged e-mails.[/B] [B]Edit:[/B] [url]http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm[/url]
A dick's way of showing his or her badass script kiddie powers? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Snipe - either didn't read OP before replying or is deliberately trolling" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
When I saw this I thought it was a computer virus. [editline]05:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18286437]A dick's way of showing his or her badass script kiddie powers?[/QUOTE] failed to read thread
[QUOTE=blah2;18286390]that means viruses are harmless [b]creatures[/b]?[/QUOTE] Creatures? You need to know what a viruss is.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Rotavirus_with_antibody.jpg[/img] Rotavirus. It exist.
[QUOTE=blah2;18286390]Somebody with time and budget to get all the publications, and more experience, should do this. [B]Nobody gives a shit about technicalities, it's like saying "A tomato is a fruit, not a vegetable", nobody cares and people will still refer to it as that, he can't say viruses don't exist in living beings just because he thinks they don't exist or we have misinterpreted the definition of a virus for decades.[/B] A virus is meant to infect someting. That's why it's called a virus. If this statement is true why doesn't it happen then? [B]Not all viruses will target human cells or your immune system has already encountered that virus before so it doesn't infect you. If there are thousands of viruses in sea water and only a few hundred DEADLY viruses that we know of, obviously very many of those are not deadly to humans and do not concern us[/B] How does a real virus look? [b]This guy is bullshitting, a virus isn't defined by a shape but by the way that it infects a host[/b] Apparently, if this is true (it's more likely it is, but it also may not be) that means viruses are harmless creatures? Does that mean the New World Order is really messing with them making them infect us? Or the things that give flu are not viruses? What are they? [b]You're taking this the wrong way, very many viruses are harmless to US and this guy decided to to throw this onto the bullshit wagon and call viruses a hoax[/b][/QUOTE] Answers in quote
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;18286478][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Rotavirus_with_antibody.jpg[/img] Rotavirus. It exist.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to sink your boat. Prove it.
Mr. Ebola here [img]http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/spring2000/allred/Ebola.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18286437]A dick's way of showing his or her badass script kiddie powers?[/QUOTE] 1 minute of thought > 5 pages of humiliation
A virus is something that will make you turn into a zombie one day
[QUOTE=Scope0;18286589]Mr. Ebola here [img]http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/spring2000/allred/Ebola.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Ebola is a parasite
Most controversial bullshit I've heard today and it's already 1 am.
Not all viruses infect all types of cell, oddly enough that's why you don't die when you go for a swim.
Oh, this thread :munch: Op is just an elaborate troll.
It's kind of funny I just said I'm interpreting the website and what it states. I said I will not take any side. I keep getting dumbs and disagrees when clearly a photo of a virus isn't enough proof. Anybody can fake a photo, unless the photo is in a book that clearly states the structure of the virus, where was it found, the chemical structure of it etc.
I couldn't make sense of the OP.
[QUOTE=Kondor;18286634]Ebola is a parasite[/QUOTE] Rated dumb because it's not.
Your an idiot, a virus is a non-living protein shell with some DNA in it. They only attack certain cells, which is why viral infections are so easy to treat once there is a drug for it. For example, HIV and Ebola don't kill cats/birds/lizards. They only infect higher primates. That is beacuse they only target the cells in higher primates, like our immune system in the case of HIV. Also, very few viruses ae deadly/even slightly annoying to us, so we don't care about viruses that infect South Indian Salamander-no-one-gives-a-fuck-about. Your a troll, OP.
OP is probably paranoid or schizophrenic. EDIT: It has long been accepted Scientific fact that viruses do, in fact, exist and that they cause diseases. The reason why we don't get infected very often is due to the Human Immune System, which is very good at keeping intruders out of our bodies. [IMG]http://www.wellesley.edu/Chemistry/Chem101/dna-viruses/viruses.jpg[/IMG] This image shows several viruses. Also, your theory about the 'New World Order' doesn't make any sense. Viruses were discovered long ago, far before the NWO would have had any potential to exist.
[QUOTE=Kondor;18286634]Ebola is a parasite[/QUOTE] hence the name, The Ebola VIRUS
Always wondered how viruses were created and what's their purpose in an ecosystem... I've always assumed they're just ancient bastards that love to harrass the shit out living things.
[QUOTE=Jallen;18286713]Rated dumb because it's not.[/QUOTE] Cool [editline]11:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sleepy Head;18286895]Always wondered how viruses were created and what's their purpose in an ecosystem... I've always assumed they're just ancient bastards that love to harrass the shit out living things.[/QUOTE] It's just how they find a place to live in warmth with plenty of food around them and a place to reproduce, think of the insides of plants and animals as an unexploited resource until viruses moved in
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;18286895]Always wondered how viruses were created and what's their purpose in an ecosystem... I've always assumed they're just ancient bastards that love to harrass the shit out living things.[/QUOTE] Believe it or not scientists are discovering what I already assumed that viruses are a part of reproduction and thusly a Major role in life.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;18286837]Your an idiot, a virus is a non-living protein shell with some DNA in it. They only attack certain cells, which is why viral infections are so easy to treat once there is a drug for it. For example, HIV and Ebola don't kill cats/birds/lizards. They only infect higher primates. That is beacuse they only target the cells in higher primates, like our immune system in the case of HIV. Also, very few viruses ae deadly/even slightly annoying to us, so we don't care about viruses that infect South Indian Salamander-no-one-gives-a-fuck-about. Your a troll, OP.[/QUOTE] Viruses contain RNA. Viruses are not living organisms. Only living organisms (bacteria) have DNA. Why don't cats have Ebola and Hiv? Don't they have the same cell structure? Are viruses racist? (nah I'm kidding) [B]Edit:[/B] [QUOTE=Kondor;18286909]It's just how they find a place to live in warmth with plenty of food around them and a place to reproduce, think of the insides of plants and animals as an unexploited resource until viruses moved in[/QUOTE] Viruses are not living things. They don't need food.
[QUOTE=blah2;18286997]I'm assuming that by drug, you mean a substance that inhinbits or slows down the spreading of a virus, so that our immune systems can effectively destroy it. Why don't cats have Ebola and Hiv? Don't they have the same cell structure? Are viruses racist? (nah I'm kidding)[/QUOTE] Do you mean Cellist? [IMG]http://i34.tinypic.com/30v2ogk.jpg[/IMG]
Some people don't consider viruses as life. they don't fit the criteria for life such as DNA or a cell, they do however have genes in RNA and do evolve but they also cant metabolize and they can only reproduce in a host cell.
By the way, to answer your thread question a Virus is: "A small infectious agent that can only replicate inside the cells of another organism.". Here are some photos of viruses. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Reconstructed_Spanish_Flu_Virus.jpg[/IMG] Spanish Flu [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Marburg_virus.jpg[/IMG] Marburg Virus. By the way, Viruses have been proven. A scientist developed a filter too small for bacteria to fit through, and put a plant inside a container with this filter. The plant was still infected, proving that there are agents of diseases smaller than bacteria.
[QUOTE=BobIsAwesome;18287061]By the way, Viruses have been proven. A scientist developed a filter too small for bacteria to fit through, and put a plant inside a container with this filter. The plant was still infected, proving that there are agents of diseases smaller than bacteria.[/QUOTE] Cool. Elaborate.
[QUOTE=blah2;18287111]Cool. Elaborate.[/QUOTE] He just did? By making holes too small for bacteria to fit through and observing how a plant was infected anyway proves something smaller than bacteria exists and causes infection. Stop trying to be a radical non-conformist just to try and be controversial.
[QUOTE=halflife_123;18286640]Not all viruses infect all types of cell, oddly enough that's why you don't die when you go for a swim.[/QUOTE] Also, I'm pretty sure it's difficult for a virus to get through your skin, which is why you can swim in a stream and be fine, but then drink from it and get the runs. I think that's bacteria though, but it's probably the same for viruses.
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