Canada: House passes marijuana legislation, bill moves to Senate - Polidicks

[QUOTE] OTTAWA -- The federal government's plan to legalize marijuana by next summer is a step closer. Bill C-45 received final approval Monday in the House of Commons, passing by a vote of 200-82. It now moves to the Senate, where Conservative senators are threatening to hold up passage of the bill. That could yet derail the government's plan to have a legalized pot regime up and running by July.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/house-passes-marijuana-legislation-bill-moves-to-senate-1.3696405[/url]

Rooting for you, Canada!

[quote]passing by a vote of 200-82[/quote] I'd expect something like this would pass just barely, but that landslide win was pretty surprising for me

Canada - [I]We're the better alternative than the yankee country.[/I] Basically.

[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52928773]I'd expect something like this would pass just barely, but that landslide win was pretty surprising for me[/QUOTE] Weed use is virtually as common around here as booze. If we hadn't had 12 fucking years of shitty conservatives, it'd already be legal

Fingers crossed. I'm glad to see that this promise at least is one Trudeau is keeping. I don't smoke myself - never have - but this needs to happen.

Nice to see it finally happening . Definitely didn't except such positive reception at a federal level

Can't wait. Anyone whining about the taxes they'll be imposing on it really don't understand the value of what it means for it to be legal.

The moment this becomes law, BC's economy is going to start improving. The black market is already huge and it's going to deflate as organized legal ops move in to compete on quality control and price and I can't wait. If anyone out there is still unemployed after the logging industry got locked down in the late 90s/00s when the government finally realized what constant deforestation was doing to the land, they've got a green job heading their way if they want it, pretty much.

I'm just not a fan of the method of implementation but at least something is being done.

Now it just needs to get though the Conservative heavy Senate (34 Con to 15 Lib out of 105 seats)... I don't use it, but I got a couple grand in stocks riding on this- and some investors seem to have gotten spooked at the idea. Seems some people think it might get shot down by the Senate. If it does, probably with the claim that the provincial governments are not ready. Which is probably a half truth. Though, I think most would know it would be to spite Trudeau and make him literally have kept zero of his promises.

[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52928773]I'd expect something like this would pass just barely, but that landslide win was pretty surprising for me[/QUOTE] The NDP and Liberals both supported it, it was mostly the Conservatives opposed to it. They acknowledge that the bill is going to go through, but they attempted to stall its coming into force date until 2019 instead of 2018. Ostensibly this was "Because the provinces don't have enough time to release fully fleshed-out marijuana sales plans," which is actually a complaint a number of provinces have raised, however most people suspect it was really to delay it until an election year (2019 is the next election) and then make it an election issue (one which they'd lose). Now if only Ontario wasn't so fucking retarded about their legalization plans. Oh well, given how shittily the province handles booze I'm not surprised. Their shit marijuana sales plan was to be expected, I'm just disappointed.

If Marijuana becomes legal in Canada, it'll give myself and others some decent leverage here in North Dakota regarding the legalization of marijuana. We have an aborted medical marijuana, and it seems that the entire local legislature here is watching Canada to see which way the winds blow.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;52931047]If Marijuana becomes legal in Canada, it'll give myself and others some decent leverage here in North Dakota regarding the legalization of marijuana. We have an aborted medical marijuana, and it seems that the entire local legislature here is watching Canada to see which way the winds blow.[/QUOTE] Parliament has a majority and the senate can only reject a law 3 times before they are forced to pass it because our senate isn't elected. The most the senate can do is try and stall this until the election in 2019, at which point the bill dies and it becomes an election issue again, but given that that's 2 years away I really don't think they're going to be able to stall it for that long. Basically, because parliament has a majority, while it may take a long time, this law is guaranteed to pass.

whoop, good to hear. Gonna start pestering the local marijuana groups about this, and tell them that it's now the time to start pushing marijuana legalization and hard. Not really in the realm of, "oh but we need marijuana legal for medical purposes" but purely the financial realm. If we do not act now, we will be unable to exploit our chances of growing great marijuana here in the plains.

Can anyone go into detail on their problems with the way it's implemented/taxed? I see people are complaining but I don't know anything about it/what the problems are

Now Trailer Park Boys will be permanently irrelevant :(

[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52932304]Can anyone go into detail on their problems with the way it's implemented/taxed? I see people are complaining but I don't know anything about it/what the problems are[/QUOTE] Provinces are being allowed to decide how they're going about it and Ontario is opting for treating it like they do alcohol -- only available from government-controlled retail locations, which automatically handicaps the market in a massive way for little actual benefit. This provincial inconsistency is a big fucking mess when it comes to alcohol (smuggling alcohol from province to province is a crime nobody's really aware of or thinks about) and they're setting up weed in the same way. But at least it's something. The limitation on the number of plants you can grow at once is also a little too strict, in my opinion. On the other hand, being caught giving weed to minors is punished by up to 14 years in prison, and I agree that the law should be tough on that. I'm not current on the exact text of the bill right now, so I can't speak for HumanAbyss or others on what their problems with the implementation are.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52932432]Provinces are being allowed to decide how they're going about it and Ontario is opting for treating it like they do alcohol -- only available from government-controlled retail locations, which automatically handicaps the market in a massive way for little actual benefit. This provincial inconsistency is a big fucking mess when it comes to alcohol (smuggling alcohol from province to province is a crime nobody's really aware of or thinks about) and they're setting up weed in the same way. But at least it's something. The limitation on the number of plants you can grow at once is also a little too strict, in my opinion. On the other hand, being caught giving weed to minors is punished by up to 14 years in prison, and I agree that the law should be tough on that. I'm not current on the exact text of the bill right now, so I can't speak for HumanAbyss or others on what their problems with the implementation are.[/QUOTE] The last read of the bill that I did was a month ago, so things very well may have changed since then. My main issues were with the restrictions around growing, and with the framework they're setting up for distribution and professional growers. They have, what seems to me to be a ineffective sales method as well that may be a bit more than cumbersome for the end user/buyer.

As someone on the side of the counter that will probably be selling it, I don't want to have anything to do with sales of marijuana. That's just going to be a complete headache in both the nasal and figurative sense. I can't stand the smell of weed (and stereotypical stoner culture) is really all it boils down to.

The dispensary I go to deals with its products in glass containers. Samples of their strains are in glass jars with flip-open rubber stoppers. If they didn't advertise that they primarily sell weed, you wouldn't know if you poked your head in unless you saw the bongs on the shelf or approached the counter and saw their sample jars and glass pipes. The only time weed's in the open air is when staff are packing them into foil bags for individual sale in the back or when a customer has a sample jar open. It's very clean and professional and quite the opposite of a drug dealer den.

[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;52932957]As someone on the side of the counter that will probably be selling it, I don't want to have anything to do with sales of marijuana. That's just going to be a complete headache in both the nasal and figurative sense. I can't stand the smell of weed (and stereotypical stoner culture) is really all it boils down to.[/QUOTE] I've smoked weed for years and years and the number of "Stereotypical stoner culture" people I know is 1. Out of like 50 people who smoke weed. I get really annoyed that the 1 dude is representative of the whole group in peoples mindsets, and I just don't get why it has to be that way.

Happy for you Canada! If only we could get such a landslide victory south of the border. Even though I'm in a legal state I can still lose my job/be denied employment because I like to spark up every now and then. So unfair. [QUOTE=Berman Slick;52932979]I'll assume you work at a BCL, and I would think they'll have air-tight containers for the product. It would be too much of an afront to old-school people, people who only drink and think weed is poisonous/a sin. It would fuck them up too much to be in a store that smells like pot all the time. And to be fair, both stoners and boozers are equally intolerable imho, I couldn't pick which I'd rather be stuck with[/QUOTE] I'd rather a stoner tbh (bit biased here however.) Drunk people are waaaaay too unpredictable.

[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;52932957]As someone on the side of the counter that will probably be selling it, I don't want to have anything to do with sales of marijuana. That's just going to be a complete headache in both the nasal and figurative sense. I can't stand the smell of weed (and stereotypical stoner culture) is really all it boils down to.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure it'll be in containers

The sad part is a lot of people are going to continue buying black market because it wont be taxed and will therefore still be cheaper than LCBO weed.