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[B](CNN) – [/B]Mitt Romney, who on Wednesday said he would bring the nation's unemployment rate to 6% as president, offered three ways he would achieve that goal in an interview Thursday.
"Well, there are a number of things," Romney said on Fox News. "You start off by saying, let's stop something that's hurting small business from creating jobs and that's 'Obamacare.' Get rid of it. No. 2, have an energy strategy that takes advantage of our natural gas and oil and coal, as well as our renewables. Those low cost energy fuels will ultimately mean jobs come back here, even manufacturing jobs that left here. And finally, get a handle on the deficit so that people understand if they invest in America, their dollars will be worth something in the future."
Romney's initial claim came in an interview with TIME Magazine.
"I can tell you that over a period of four years, by virtue of the policies that we'd put in place, we'd get the unemployment rate down to 6%, and perhaps a little lower," the presumptive GOP nominee told the magazine.
The number marked the first time Romney had talked about a specific rate during this election cycle, although he listed 5.9% as the number he would strive for in his 59-point economic plan released in September.
Economic forecasts suggest Romney may not be too far off in his prediction. Based on the current rate of growth, the jobless rate is expected to fall to around 7% by the end of 2015 and 5.5% by the end of 2017, according to reports by the bipartisan Congressional Budget Office.
In a conference call Wednesday, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt pointed to those predictions in criticizing Romney's statement.
"Government economists have been clear that under current law their projection today is that unemployment will hit 6% by that point," LaBolt said.
He went on to cite recent remarks in which Romney, chiding the president for his job creation record, said any unemployment figure above 4% was not worth celebrating.
"What I think was interesting about this is that Romney moved goal posts in a matter of weeks," LaBolt said. "He said he was going to get it down to 4% several weeks ago, now he's at 6%, he's already moved the goal posts on a critical promise he made."
In his previous remarks, Romney did not explicitly say he would reduce the unemployment rate to 4%. At a campaign stop in Pittsburgh in May, he said "anything over 8%, anything near 8%, anything over 4% is not cause for celebration."
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But he just said some bullshit about using mineral resources here in the US, and somehow make our spending smaller without any actual plans on how he intends to do this.
Just a guess, But wouldnt obamacare create more jobs?
The unemployment rate wouldn't be as low as it is in the U.S. without the massive stimulus put forwards by Obama, I love how they blame Bush's mistakes on the Democrats.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;36086737]The unemployment rate wouldn't be as low as it is in the U.S. without the massive stimulus put forwards by Obama, I love how they blame Bush's mistakes on the Democrats.[/QUOTE]
Obama passed a stimulus too you know, before you go on the conservative drum bashing.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;36086750]Obama passed a stimulus too you know, before you go on the conservative drum bashing.[/QUOTE]
Isn't this exactly what he said? Great reading there my friend.
Perhaps it'll work but I ultimately trust the well-established Keynesian economics over the risky and untested Hayek model in his 59-point plan.
His statements makes no sense and is just empty words about shit.
He said nothing at fucking all about how he would achieve this and basically just wanted to get Obamacare out of the system.
I think all he's really saying is "Let's take Obamacare out of America and then things will be resolved somehow".
He runs on hollow words, empty promises, and cobwebs in the head.
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The hamster died years ago.
So, undo everything that happened in the past 6 or 7 years. I do not see how this will fix ANYTHING
[QUOTE=Best4bond;36086680]Just a guess, But wouldnt obamacare create more jobs?[/QUOTE]
It'll create some government jobs, but has already caused the loss of a lot of private sector jobs by employers who are unwillingly to pay for the level of coverage mandated by the law.
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[QUOTE=dgg;36087069]His statements makes no sense and is just empty words about shit.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's how politics works. Promise the moon to get elected, then ignore them until next election time.
More like: How Romney plans to increase the unemployment
[QUOTE=Zambies!;36086750]Obama passed a stimulus too you know, before you go on the conservative drum bashing.[/QUOTE]
Mmmmm persecution complex
[QUOTE=znk666;36089058]More like: How Romney plans to increase the unemployment[/QUOTE]
No man, [B][I]OIL WILL SAVE US![/I][/B]
Remove access to health care and enough of the population dies as a result that unemployment drops. Brilliant!
*sigh*
He wants to run on a platform of lowering unemployment by 2%?
2%? Unemployment would naturally go down like that by the end of his first term...
[QUOTE=Ridge;36088810]It'll create some government jobs, but has already caused the loss of a lot of private sector jobs by employers who are unwillingly to pay for the level of coverage mandated by the law.[/QUOTE]
Incorrect.
The basis for this claim is generally either [URL="http://www.gallup.com/poll/152654/health-costs-gov-regulations-curb-small-business-hiring.aspx"]a gallup survey saying half of small businesses find healthcare costs worrying[/URL], or [URL="http://danbraganca.com/2011/07/21/heritage-foundations-misleading-chart/"]fudged statistics.[/URL] If we look at actual private sector hiring behavior:
[img]http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ACA-jobs.png[/img]
...the proposed "regulatory uncertainty" it was supposed to cause didn't exist. Post-passage, there's no evidence it actually did [i]anything[/i] to employment. [URL="http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf"]We're growing at the same rate we were in 04.[/URL] Any claim the PPACA did something negative then has to be based off of speculation about how the economy would have been better without it- i.e. bullshit, since every economist worth a damn said it would do nothing to the economy.
This is what drives me nuts about modern wannabe conservatism. There's actual data here to argue against healthcare reform with- use it instead of the fairy tales and you might be taken seriously.
His first point seems to just be another empty political snipe against Obamacare, his second is vague as hell and is probably not the best choice anyways since we're getting to the point where the environment is really going to start punishing us, and his third point is about 'handling the deficit' which is even vaguer than the second point and shows no way on how he is going to do this.
None of those things will create any jobs at all. Romney intends to bring down the deficit with massive spending cuts that mean LOST jobs and LOST growth in the economy, and repealing health reform just means more people lose everything they have when they get sick.
I guess exploiting domestic petroleum will create jobs to clean up after the oil spills.
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None of those things will create any jobs at all. Romney intends to bring down the deficit with massive spending cuts that mean LOST jobs and LOST growth in the economy, and repealing health reform just means more people lose everything they have when they get sick.
I guess exploiting domestic petroleum will create jobs to clean up after the oil spills.
What KIND of jobs will he create, that's what I want to know.
Creating more destructive coal mining jobs, for instance, isn't exactly going to cure the problems of this country. Coal mining is not only environmentally destructive, but not great for the health of coal miners themselves.
What happens when we've pumped all the oil?
These are all band aid solutions at best.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;36091171]None of those things will create any jobs at all. Romney intends to bring down the deficit with massive spending cuts that mean LOST jobs and LOST growth in the economy, and repealing health reform just means more people lose everything they have when they get sick.
I guess exploiting domestic petroleum will create jobs to clean up after the oil spills.[/QUOTE]Well, if all the uninsured people die off, then of course the unemployment rate will be lower. Can't be unemployed if you're dead, death is full time work.
They always say Obamacare kills jobs etc but I have absolutely no idea how they back that up
[QUOTE=smurfy;36091746]They always say Obamacare kills jobs etc but I have absolutely no idea how they back that up[/QUOTE]They don't need to because if they just say it loud enough and often enough, people will buy it up like nothing else.
I love the logic here.
1. Cut spending to reduce deficit, thereby reducing available jobs.
2. ??? (Something about opening a few jobs in harvesting gas and oil)
3. Unemployment goes down.
Yeah, I have the feeling that all the hate for Obamacare is mostly ignorant people who hear some politician send out an empty political snipe, and they go "OH MAW GAWD OBAMACARE IS TERRIBLE."
Wouldn't allowing illegal/undocumented immigrants to become citizens also lower the unemployment rates? We can't just get rid of them, either.
[QUOTE=smurfy;36091746]They always say Obamacare kills jobs etc but I have absolutely no idea how they back that up[/QUOTE]
Well it indisputably costs money, it just costs money nobody is upset about right now, like insurers having to own up a bit more and employers having to disclose the worth of their shit. Come 2014, it'll start costing a fair amount to insurance companies, but, again, few people care. The effect on individuals and employers is mostly negated by the penalties being slaps on the wrist, and there being tax breaks for compliance.
Mainly politicians are just butthurt because it'll fuck up their kickbacks with certain industries and they'll be forced to use the poor people option come 2014 like normal goddamn citizens.
[QUOTE=TAU!;36092607]Wouldn't allowing illegal/undocumented immigrants to become citizens also lower the unemployment rates? We can't just get rid of them, either.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, by a tiny amount, but what good does that do if we have the same amount of unemployed people?
[QUOTE=TAU!;36092607]Wouldn't allowing illegal/undocumented immigrants to become citizens also lower the unemployment rates? We can't just get rid of them, either.[/QUOTE]
yes genius idea let undocumented workers take the place of actual americans in the workforce, that'll definitely help the unemployment crisis.
i'm all for making the road to citizenship easier so that immigrants have a fair chance but letting illegal immigrants take the jobs of actual americans isn't going to make things any better, it'll just make it harder for american citizens to find minimum wage jobs
romney also has the cure for aids
but he'll only tell you what it is if he wins the election
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36092807]yes genius idea let undocumented workers take the place of actual americans in the workforce, that'll definitely help the unemployment crisis. i'm all for making the road to citizenship easier so that immigrants have a fair chance but letting illegal immigrants take the jobs of actual americans isn't going to make things any better, it'll just make it harder for american citizens to find minimum wage jobs[/QUOTE] Actually it might make it easier since these workers would now be able to compete with the migrant workers. A major problem right now is that a lot of illegals work for below minimum wage. This makes it so the average American can't compete. If the supply of workers for
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It cut off half my post...ok.
Anyways, if the supply of workers for <Minimum Wage goes down, employers have to increase wages to compensate.
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