James O'Keefe says it's ok to lie if you're lying to journalists - Polidicks

Full headline: [B]Conservative provocateur who tried to plant fake stories in The Washington Post says it's ok to lie if you're lying to journalists[/B][QUOTE]OXON HILL, Maryland — Conservative provocateur and media personality James O'Keefe, who is famous for his undercover videos attempting to expose left-wing bias and corruption at institutions and news outlets, said lying in the process of obtaining a story is ethical, including the plot to [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?utm_term=.b291b5ea9f18"] plant a false story[/URL] in The Washington Post. At the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) just outside Washington, O'Keefe participated in a panel titled "Suppression of Conservative Views on Social Media: A First Amendment Issue." The panel featured O'Keefe, [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/google-sundar-pichai-anti-diversity-manifesto-fired-2017-8"] fired Google employee[/URL] James Damore, and others, who said large technology companies like Facebook and Twitter are curtailing conservative voices from inside their platforms' algorithms. After the panel concluded, O'Keefe, who runs Project Veritas, told Business Insider that he and his team of undercover activists do not lie to the public, but find it entirely acceptable to deceive the subjects of his stories. "Deception is to get the meeting. We never lie to the American people," O'Keefe said. "We only tell the truth to the American people. We never deceive the masses, ever. Period." O'Keefe added that he never intended to plant a false story in The Washington Post, despite a detailed report from the newspaper chronicling one of his employees attempting to persuade reporters that Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore had impregnated her as a teenager. "We never intended to plant a false story," O'Keefe said. "It was always the intent to get a meeting and that was it." Rather, O'Keefe said that their intention was to discuss politics with the Post reporters in an attempt to expose liberal bias. O'Keefe acknowledged that the sting was a failure and that "reporters sometimes are successful and sometimes are not." "It was in the meeting to have a conversation, that's it. That's the extent of it," O'Keefe added. "And I would happily go under oath in a court of law to say what I just said, as would my undercover people — as with my journalists. The media lied. The media lied." The Post chronicled O'Keefe's employee, Jaime T. Phillips, in her plan to convince the newspaper to publish her account at the height of the Alabama special election last year, in which Moore's campaign was embroiled in allegations of sexual misconduct by several women, some of whom were teenagers at the time of the incidents. "We always honor 'off-the-record' agreements when they're entered into in good faith," said Washington Post Executive Editor Marty Baron in the November. "But this so-called off-the-record conversation was the essence of a scheme to deceive and embarrass us. The intent by Project Veritas clearly was to publicize the conversation if we fell for the trap. Because of our customary journalistic rigor, we weren't fooled, and we can't honor an 'off-the-record' agreement that was solicited in maliciously bad faith." [/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-admits-he-lies-to-journalists-2018-2[/URL] Original headline didn't fit, hope this one isn't too editorialized.

Go fuck yourself, O'Keefe, you corrupt scam artist.

[QUOTE]After the panel concluded, O'Keefe, who runs Project Veritas, told Business Insider that he and his team of undercover activists do not lie to the public, but find it entirely acceptable to deceive the subjects of his stories. "Deception is to get the meeting. We never lie to the American people," O'Keefe said. "We only tell the truth to the American people. We never deceive the masses, ever. Period." [/QUOTE] Does this motherfucker not understand the notion of fruit of the poisoned tree? It's still a lie to the American people if it was derived through fraudulent means, you callous motherfuckers. Of course, that's a stupid question, of course he doesn't, or if he does he doesn't care. He's a shameless propagandist and con artist. Remember, it's okay to lie to journalists if it's to discredit accurate reporting of a white Republican's pedophile past. It's okay to grab women by the pussy and fuck 15-year-olds if you ask their mothers for permission to date them. It's okay to coerce a 13-year-old into marrying you. But it's not okay to raise taxes a little bit and give the poor health care, because fuck them for being lazy. God bless America on a Holy Bible and pass the armor-piercing ammunition, amen.

I don't think the media is perfect but uh actively trying to make the problem worse is something special.

Lying to obtain an interview is a bit sketchy, but the bigger problem here isn't the means by which this guy is getting his "scoops," but the fact that his scoops are wholly fucking fabricated -- resplicing and editing the footage to make it appear as if the subjects of the interview are saying things that they didn't, answering questions that weren't asked, changing the answers to questions that they were asked by moving their answers around without the context of the [I]actual[/I] questions. Project Veritas is complete fuckin' bunk, and O'Keefe is nothing but a scam artist. This is the same guy who released the "PLANNED PARENTHOOD SELLS ABORTED BABY BODY PARTS!" story, which blew up among "Pro-Life" groups for obvious reasons. Problem is: the story was a sham. The interview, obtained through fraudulent means and secretly filmed, utilized the above techniques to manufacture an outrageous story. If you buy into Project Veritas videos: you are being taken for a ride. [editline]23rd February 2018[/editline] [quote]O'Keefe added that he never intended to plant a false story in The Washington Post, despite a detailed report from the newspaper chronicling one of his employees attempting to persuade reporters that Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore had impregnated her as a teenager. [/quote] My favorite thing about [I]this[/I] manufactured controversy was that all it really did was prove that The Washington Post carefully vets their sources and won't run a story (especially one with huge ramifications) if they cannot verify that the sources for that story are on the level.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53155324]Lying to obtain an interview is a bit sketchy, but the bigger problem here isn't the means by which this guy is getting his "scoops," but the fact that his scoops are wholly fucking fabricated -- resplicing and editing the footage to make it appear as if the subjects of the interview are saying things that they didn't, answering questions that weren't asked, changing the answers to questions that they were asked by moving their answers around without the context of the [I]actual[/I] questions. Project Veritas is complete fuckin' bunk, and O'Keefe is nothing but a scam artist. This is the same guy who released the "PLANNED PARENTHOOD SELLS ABORTED BABY BODY PARTS!" story, which blew up among "Pro-Life" groups for obvious reasons. Problem is: the story was a sham. The interview, obtained through fraudulent means and secretly filmed, utilized the above techniques to manufacture an outrageous story. If you buy into Project Veritas videos: you are being taken for a ride. [editline]23rd February 2018[/editline] My favorite thing about [I]this[/I] manufactured controversy was that all it really did was prove that The Washington Post carefully vets their sources and won't run a story (especially one with huge ramifications) if they cannot verify that the sources for that story are on the level.[/QUOTE] It truly astounds me, how incredibly [B]concentrated[/B] the projection is. They call "liberal media" fake news, when they are in reality the [B]only[/B] authors.

[QUOTE=Blackavar;53155333]It truly astounds me, how incredibly [B]concentrated[/B] the projection is. They call "liberal media" fake news, when they are in reality the [B]only[/B] authors.[/QUOTE] The indoctrinated perspective: when your definition of "the truth" doesn't fit reality, it doesn't mean [I]you're[/I] wrong, it means [I]reality[/I] is wrong. Thus, lying is [B]necessary[/B] to really tell the truth. The propagandist's perspective: we know we're peddling bullshit. We're doing it on purpose. Dishonesty is a means to an end, and that end is more power.

[quote]"We never intended to plant a false story," O'Keefe said. "It was always the intent to get a meeting and that was it." Rather, O'Keefe said that their intention was to discuss politics with the Post reporters in an attempt to expose liberal bias. O'Keefe acknowledged that the sting was a failure and that "reporters sometimes are successful and sometimes are not." "It was in the meeting to have a conversation, that's it. That's the extent of it," O'Keefe added. "And I would happily go under oath in a court of law to say what I just said, as would my undercover people — as with my journalists. The media lied. The media lied." [/quote] What is he even trying to push here? His people got into long conversations with journalists with the false information they gave, so by all accounts he should call the sting successful, the result merely being that there is no supposed bias. It's like he's tacitly admitting that his goal was never to monitor media integrity but just dig up dirt in hopes of getting a scoop. Against this, his claim he doesn't deceive public is laughable.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53155324]My favorite thing about [I]this[/I] manufactured controversy was that all it really did was prove that The Washington Post carefully vets their sources and won't run a story (especially one with huge ramifications) if they cannot verify that the sources for that story are on the level.[/QUOTE] It was indeed deeply satisfying to see O'Queef get humiliated by some actual fucking journalists.