Bing is bleeding Microsoft of $1 billion per quarter - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/technology/microsoft_bing/index.htm?source=cnn_bin[/url] [quote] Bing, Microsoft's two-year old search engine, is losing nearly a $1 billion a quarter, with no sign of letting up. Microsoft has lost $5.5 billion on Bing since the search service launched in June 2009, but the company's search losses actually pre-date that. In fact, the software giant has never made money in its online services division. Since Microsoft began breaking out that unit's finances in 2007, the company has lost a total of $9 billion. Even the good news with Bing isn't so great. Microsoft proudly proclaims that it has gained search market share against Google in each of the past 27 months. While that's true, it is not gaining search share from Google. Bing currently maintains a 14.7% share of the search market, up from 8.4% when Bing launched, according to online data tracker comScore. Google currently commands 64.8% of the market -- down just two-tenths of a percentage point from the 65% it held when Bing debuted. More than half the share that Bing has gained has actually come from third-place Yahoo. The rest has come from search cellar-dwellers Ask.com and AOL. There's usually no such thing as "bad" market share growth, but Yahoo's search is powered by Bing. That means more than half of Microsoft's share growth has come from cannibalizing its search partner. Can Bing escape its stagnation and actually make money? Microsoft says it has a solution. At the company's financial analyst meeting in Anaheim, Calif., last week, Microsoft President of Online Services Qi Lu gave an impassioned speech about how Bing would improve search by "reorganizing the Web." To do that, Microsoft plans to leverage its network of products and partnerships to gain a better understanding of what the user is after when they enter a query into a Bing search box. Ultimately, Microsoft believes its technical secret sauce will let Bing both expand what is "searchable" and deliver more robust search results than any of its competitors. Lu said Microsoft could not and would not try to "out-Google" Google. Instead, it must "change the game fundamentally." Bing has already begun to show some of that capability. For instance, though partnerships with various ticketing agencies, a search for "Mariners tickets" will display links to upcoming games and a map of Seattle's Safeco Field showing fans where tickets are available. A search for flight information will tell you when the best day is to purchase a plane ticket. Searching for "digital camera" will display images of cameras that can be filtered, sorted and compared. It's a step forward from a laundry list of blue links. Through its search partnership with Facebook, its mobile partnership with Nokia and its marriage with various Microsoft products, Bing will gradually gain a semantic understanding of the Web, Lu said. That will transform search from today's noun-based keyword entry -- a system Lu dismissed as "caveman speak" -- to eventually give Bing the ability to field questions phrased in natural human language.[/quote] Well played Microsoft. It was shitty while it lasted.

I was unaware any-one used Bing.

Unless Google royally fucks up, there's absolutely no need for more search engines This is proof of it

They have half the searches I want. Here in China, google resets for me for about 1-5 minutes each search and I still rather use it.

who the hell uses bing

Optimistic that Windows will see this and stop using this ridiculousness competitiveness nature of their and remove such services that are just there to compete with other much better.

[QUOTE=Kalibos;32393994]who the hell uses bing[/QUOTE]These types: [img]http://www.windows-noob.com/review/ie7/screenshots/xpspyware.jpg[/img]

The fact is, Google is a verb and a noun. If you go and ask someone to bing something they'll think that you're mad.

Bing is pretty nice on Mobiles I find, but otherwise I don't feel a need to use it.

To be honest I don't know why microsoft did this in the first place, we don't need another standard. [QUOTE=The golden;32394003][B][U]Unique[/U][/B] competition is good. Bing was basically a carbon-copy of Google. Google even busted Bing for stealing their search results or whatever they are called.[/QUOTE] That was proven to be botched. Panda X will probably be in here explaining that any time now :v:

This is why Windows might not be the #1 used OS or service one day. MS has gone from richest company in the world (2000) to IIRC 15th (2011). Almost all their non-Windows departments don't make profit, and Google's online services and such are growing. Also, remember the issues many people had with Vista? And most of these were on PC's they bought, so no it's not them putting Vista on their old PC. I blame Balmer taking the position of CEO in 2000.

[QUOTE=Miskav;32393975]I was unaware any-one used Bing.[/QUOTE] A lot of schools seem to use it. But then a lot of schools also use Internet Explorer.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;32394544]Congratulations you have no idea what you're talking about. Their console department is making billions and Windows 7 was a massive success, it sold like 500 million units. They're so far away from the bottom they're in space.[/QUOTE] As wrong as he was in general, it is true that they occasionally do something realllllllllly dumb that no one really gets. Bing was stupid, and Songsmith was even worse :v:

[QUOTE=Aredbomb;32394519]A lot of schools seem to use it. But then a lot of schools also use Internet Explorer.[/QUOTE] Was told by my IT Teacher that the IT Support absolutely despise Internet Explorer but have no other choice since their filter ain't compatible with anything else. And they are still on XP

askjeeves 4 lyf

[QUOTE=Shiftyze;32393978]They have half the searches I want. Here in China, google resets for me for about 1-5 minutes each search and I still rather use it.[/QUOTE] Why are you not using baidu or is it too censored for what you need?

[QUOTE=jordguitar;32394729]Why are you not using baidu or is it too censored for what you need?[/QUOTE]Never used it or heard of it before. And looks censored as fuck.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;32394700]askjeeves 4 lyf[/QUOTE] altavista > All

Why doesn't Microsoft realize that no one is using this shitty service and that they are just wasting money.

[QUOTE=Mr.T;32394793]Why doesn't Microsoft realize that no one is using this shitty service and that they are just wasting money.[/QUOTE]Microsoft tries to make their micro-soft penis into something it's not.

Honestly, I'm not surprised.

[QUOTE=faze;32394819]Microsoft tries to make their micro-soft penis into something it's not.[/QUOTE] Yes. Because Google has never had a product flop before. Oh wait. Google Wave. Google Lively. Google Buzz. Google Video. Probably Google Plus soon. I could go on, but Google's way of doing invite only bullshit is hurting their success rate with most of their social media attempts. It actually killed Google Wave. When you're trying to build a protocol to replace e-mail, don't have a limited invite only beta.

I only used Bing once, and it was to search for a Google Chrome download on a new computer I got :v: [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zanfall;32395094]Yes. Because Google has never had a product flop before. Oh wait. Google Wave. Google Lively. Google Buzz. Google Video. Probably Google Plus soon. I could go on, but Google's way of doing invite only bullshit is hurting their success rate with most of their social media attempts. It actually killed Google Wave. When you're trying to build a protocol to replace e-mail, don't have a limited invite only beta.[/QUOTE] Google Plus looks like it'll be damned good to be honest, there's no reason really for anyone to stick on Facebook other than "all my friends are on it."

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;32395169] Google Plus looks like it'll be damned good to be honest, there's no reason really for anyone to stick on Facebook other than "all my friends are on it."[/QUOTE]Yeah, Facebook seems to be their only holdup. And Facebook is holding on because of the sheer amount of people using it, and amount of media sources (and etc) that are using it, also since they change their site every 5 seconds, people have something to look forward to.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;32395169] Google Plus looks like it'll be damned good to be honest, there's no reason really for anyone to stick on Facebook other than "all my friends are on it."[/QUOTE] It is good, but the problem is Google doesn't know how to attract people to it and I think they might have missed their chance when it was getting a lot of publicity.

[QUOTE=faze;32394011]These types: [img]http://www.windows-noob.com/review/ie7/screenshots/xpspyware.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] it's funny how there are so many search engines on there and yet bing still isn't

[QUOTE=Murkat;32396286]it's funny how there are so many search engines on there and yet bing still isn't[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha!!! I didn't notice that! That's a good one.

[QUOTE=Murkat;32396286]it's funny how there are so many search engines on there and yet bing still isn't[/QUOTE] Probably an old picture when Bing was still named "Windows Live Search"

[QUOTE=faze;32394011]These types: [img]http://www.windows-noob.com/review/ie7/screenshots/xpspyware.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Man, I had that monkey guy on my computer back in the 90's!

[QUOTE=Black;32396394]Probably an old picture when Bing was still named "Windows Live Search"[/QUOTE]Pretty sure he was speaking in context of the thread. [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Thom12255;32396403]Man, I had that monkey guy on my computer back in the 90's![/QUOTE]Yeah I had that too. Remember the paper clip from MS Office?