[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19922421[/URL]
[QUOTE][B]Cyber-attacks could inflict as much damage on the US as the physical attacks on 11 September 2001, the US defence secretary has warned.[/B]
Leon Panetta said the country was preparing to take pre-emptive action if a serious cyber-attack was imminent.
He said US intelligence showed "foreign actors" were targeting control systems for utilities, industry and transport.
Advanced tools were being created to subvert key computer control systems and wreak havoc, said Mr Panetta.
"An aggressor nation or extremist group could gain control of critical switches and derail passenger trains, or trains loaded with lethal chemicals," said Mr Panetta in a speech to business leaders held on the USS
Intrepid - a former aircraft carrier that is now a museum.
"They could contaminate the water supply in major cities, or shut down the power grid across large parts of the country.
"Such a destructive cyber-terrorist attack could paralyse the nation and create a profound new sense of vulnerability," he said.
Smaller scale cyber-attacks were now commonplace, said Mr Panetta.
In recent weeks, many large US firms had suffered attacks that had involved them being bombarded with huge amounts of data, he said. In addition, oil companies in Qatar and Saudi Arabia had been hit by the
Shamoon attack, which had tried to replace computer data with gibberish. About 30,000 machines were hit by the Shamoon attack.
The US defence department had developed tools to trace attackers, he added, and a cyber-strike force that could conduct operations via computer networks. And it was now finalising changes to its rules of
engagement that would define when it could "confront major threats quickly".
"Potential aggressors should be aware that the United States has the capacity to locate them and hold them accountable for actions that harm America or its interests," he said.
"If we detect an imminent threat of attack that will cause significant physical destruction or kill American citizens, we need to have the option to take action to defend the nation, when directed by the president."
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But a first-strike DDOS could bring about mutually assured frustration
this should be interesting.
How fucking retarded do you have to be to have important shit like that connected to the internet?
It's not that hard to isolate key infrastructure from everything else.
[quote]They could contaminate the water supply in major cities[/quote]
IncludePoisonousChemicals = 1
Here's a better way of doing it. Have a radio frequency band dedicated to that stuff and have it encrypted just to make sure.
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;38026321']How fucking retarded do you have to be to have important shit like that connected to the internet?[/QUOTE]
This is my thought exactly. Scared of terrorists hacking into your nuclear plant? Don't have any fuckin' outside connections running to your nuclear plant! It's that simple!
You know why my Gameboy is more secure than most government computer systems? You have to actually come into my house to access it!
[QUOTE=smurfy;38026351]IncludePoisonousChemicals = 1[/QUOTE]
exec hackintosystem.exe
exec destroyeverything.exe
exec unleashtoxicchemicals.exe
done
omg what a pro hacker
Script Kiddie.
[QUOTE=Koenigsegg;38026836]exec hackintosystem.exe
exec destroyeverything.exe
exec unleashtoxicchemicals.exe
done
omg what a pro hacker[/QUOTE]
Dude how the fuck do you know that, calling the FBI you scum
Reminds me of the Nod Net Runners from Tiberian Dawn.
It might just be me, but I've never heard the word "cyber" used in a context that didn't make you sound like an old man.
[QUOTE=Virtanen;38030273][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHo-QYqkrY[/media][/QUOTE]
Let's put this away for when China has these forces too. (They probably do)
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;38026769]This is my thought exactly. Scared of terrorists hacking into your nuclear plant? Don't have any fuckin' outside connections running to your nuclear plant! It's that simple!
You know why my Gameboy is more secure than most government computer systems? You have to actually come into my house to access it![/QUOTE]
Something stinks of it isn't that simple.
[QUOTE=Cone;38030583]It might just be me, but I've never heard the word "cyber" used in a context that didn't make you sound like an old man.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that almost every single use of the word is as a placeholder for something somebody doesn't know jack shit about; one good example is calling the internet "cyberspace".
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;38026769]This is my thought exactly. Scared of terrorists hacking into your nuclear plant? Don't have any fuckin' outside connections running to your nuclear plant! It's that simple!
You know why my Gameboy is more secure than most government computer systems? You have to actually come into my house to access it![/QUOTE]
It's not that simple. Many systems need to have access to the internet for remote control and such.
Isolation isn't fool proof. A person can always break in and steal an Ethernet cable, or if they have WiFi they can use a big ass antenna and connect to it from miles away.
[QUOTE=smurfy;38026258]But a first-strike DDOS could bring about mutually assured frustration[/QUOTE]
People can't get their porn.
FRUSTRATION. :v:
I'll be honest, when I read "cyber-forces", I was thinking we would be going up against robots from somewhere...
[t]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/0e/RobotArmy.png[/t]
Would've been a lot more epic than a cybernet attack.
God, the prefix "cyber" always sounds so corny to me. Especially when paired with other words like Cyber-Attack or Cyber-Force. I can't take them seriously.
I was hoping for a cyberpunk dystopian future strike force.
Disappointed.
From what I remember, I thought that infrastructure was actually quite easy to damage from the Internet. Perhaps not a water plant (why the hell does any of the machinery there need an Internet connection?) However, power stations yes. From what I remember, generator stations that maintain power in the grid (not the power plants themselves, but a regulating stations) relay information over the Internet and require constant updates.
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