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[QUOTE]The pea-sized structures reached the same level of development as in a nine-week-old foetus, but are incapable of thought.
The study, published in the journal Nature, has already been used to gain insight into rare diseases. Neuroscientists have described the findings
as astounding and fascinating. The human brain is one of the most complicated structures in the universe. Scientists at Institute of Molecular
Biotechnology of the Austrian Academy of Sciences have now reproduced some of the earliest stages of the organ's development in the laboratory.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23863544[/URL]
Motherfucker.
What next, Robocop?
Clone Wars?
[QUOTE='[Green];42001440']Motherfucker.
What next, Robocop?
Clone Wars?[/QUOTE]
Brain patents.
[QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;42001506]Brain patents.[/QUOTE]
Oh god, pls no.
How about replacement brains for Alzheimer patients?
Maybe?
Cyberpunk here we come! Wait... I'd rather not.
The human brain is by far the most complex system on the planet and the known universe. I expect it to be decades (probably longer) before they are able to transplant different parts of the brain that may be affected by a disease or disorder.
Neural augs? Why have machines in your head, when you can have a specifically modified piece of brain!
[QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;42001506]Brain patents.[/QUOTE]
Next we'll have someone sue the human race for infringing on their operating system.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;42001585]Neural augs? Why have machines in your head, when you can have a specifically modified piece of brain![/QUOTE]
We might start to associate the term "machine" with very different things should pop culture "biotech" really become a thing. So instead of cutting off your limb and stapling a metal machine onto it, you command the body to regrow your arm inside out or something. Nanobots not injected from some outside source, but built inside your own cells based on viral structures.
That kinda scifi stuff.
Why does this have 13 winners? This is totally awful. Think about it. What if you were born, but without arms, legs, fingers, a face, or even any skin? All you would be aware of is your own existence and the emotions and states induced in you by the drugs and chemicals the researchers who made you fed you and you would be completely at the mercy of these people at all times. Better hope there's not a budding sadist as a part of such a research team now or you would be in for one hell of a bad time. Actually, you would just be in hell anyway.
[QUOTE=amorax;42001691]Why does this have 13 winners? This is totally awful. Think about it. What if you were born, but without arms, legs, fingers, a face, or even any skin? All you would be aware of is your own existence and the emotions and states induced in you by the drugs and chemicals the researchers who made you fed you and you would be completely at the mercy of these people at all times. Better hope there's not a budding sadist as a part of such a research team now.[/QUOTE]
They're incapable of thought, have no real oxygen flow and no blood.. How do you expect it to feel?
[QUOTE=amorax;42001691]Why does this have 13 winners? This is totally awful. Think about it. What if you were born, but without arms, legs, fingers, a face, or even any skin? All you would be aware of is your own existence and the emotions and states induced in you by the drugs and chemicals the researchers who made you fed you and you would be completely at the mercy of these people at all times. Better hope there's not a budding sadist as a part of such a research team now.[/QUOTE]
That's not how it really works.
[QUOTE=alexanderk;42001707]They're incapable of thought, have no real oxygen flow and no blood.. How do you expect it to feel?[/QUOTE]
How do you know they're incapable of thought? If they're not capable of thought they wouldn't make very good brains and they wouldn't be capable of replacing rats and mice as this article says they would be able to. Essentially, even if they're not capable of thought now, which I doubt anyway (researchers would have an incentive to lie over issues such as these anyway), they will be at some point in the future, and how they will be treated at such a point is not described above.
Except it says right in the article that it's not capable of thought because it's not developed enough.
[QUOTE=amorax;42001736]How do you know they're not incapable of thought? If they're not capable of thought they wouldn't make very good brains and they wouldn't be capable of replacing rats and mice as this article says they would be able to. Essentially, even if they're not capable of thought now, which I doubt anyway (researchers would have an incentive to lie over issues such as these anyway), they will be at some point in the future, and how they will be treated at such a point is not described above.[/QUOTE]
You weren't really capable of thought until quite a while after being born, really.
I mean, I hope you are now, not entirely sure tho
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42001762]You weren't really capable of thought until quite a while after being born, really.
I mean, I hope you are now, not entirely sure tho[/QUOTE]
What about when they reach a stage where they can grow brains who can think, assuming they can't already (despite what you may have read, no one knows for sure whether babies can think at nine weeks old, for the simple reason we are not nine-week old babies and we have no way of communicating with them currently)? It is a stated goal of the researchers they wish to replace mice and rats with better things to perform work on, and they seem to believe the organs they are growing are or will be able to fulfil this role eventually.
[QUOTE=amorax;42001845]What about when they reach a stage where they can grow brains who can think, assuming they can't already (despite what you may have read, no one knows for sure whether babies can think at nine weeks old, for the simple reason we are not nine-week old babies and we have no way of communicating with them currently)? It is a stated goal of the researchers they wish to replace mice and rats with better things to perform work on.[/QUOTE]
Alexanderk is right so you don't have to keep arguing to try to prove a point. Just admit that you made a mistake while reading the article.
i wonder if they had the technology to read that brain's thoughts if it had any, i bet theyd be like "kill me, kill me, kill me"
[B][U]Pea-sized structures incapable of thought.[/U][/B]
Come on people, first fucking sentence.
"Kill..... me.."
[editline]28th August 2013[/editline]
Good thing it cant speak.
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This brings up a weird question: once we gain the scientific or technological ability to grow a brain [I]capable[/I] of thought, what would we do about it? Is it considered a human, and therefore cannot be tested upon?
Fuck, man. Times are a-changin'
[QUOTE=amorax;42001845]What about when they reach a stage where they can grow brains who can think, assuming they can't already (despite what you may have read, no one knows for sure whether babies can think at nine weeks old, for the simple reason we are not nine-week old babies and we have no way of communicating with them currently)? It is a stated goal of the researchers they wish to replace mice and rats with better things to perform work on, and they seem to believe the organs they are growing are or will be able to fulfil this role eventually.[/QUOTE]
That, and simulating brains and people on computers.
I think there's a massive political shit-storm brewing.
[QUOTE=Dacheet;42002439]This brings up a weird question: once we gain the scientific or technological ability to grow a brain [I]capable[/I] of thought, what would we do about it? Is it considered a human, and therefore cannot be tested upon?
Fuck, man. Times are a-changin'[/QUOTE]
We will cross that road once it comes. I seriously hope we don't sell modified human brains as pets.
Oh hey they cloned garrys brain.
[QUOTE='[Green];42001543']Oh god, pls no.
How about replacement brains for Alzheimer patients?
Maybe?[/QUOTE]
You, uh
You don't know how brains work, do you?
I shouldn't have clicked on the article while chewing gum.
[QUOTE=amorax;42001845]What about when they reach a stage where they can grow brains who can think, assuming they can't already (despite what you may have read, no one knows for sure whether babies can think at nine weeks old, for the simple reason we are not nine-week old babies and we have no way of communicating with them currently)? It is a stated goal of the researchers they wish to replace mice and rats with better things to perform work on, and they seem to believe the organs they are growing are or will be able to fulfil this role eventually.[/QUOTE]
How can you miss what you don't know about? I'm sure if a person were born with nothing but their own self-awareness, they'd be fine with it. It'd be the only thing they knew.
What would be cruel is if they created something with self-awareness and somehow told it that there was more to the world and that they can't have it.
[QUOTE=amorax;42001691]Why does this have 13 winners? This is totally awful. Think about it. What if you were born, but without arms, legs, fingers, a face, or even any skin? All you would be aware of is your own existence and the emotions and states induced in you by the drugs and chemicals the researchers who made you fed you and you would be completely at the mercy of these people at all times. Better hope there's not a budding sadist as a part of such a research team now or you would be in for one hell of a bad time. Actually, you would just be in hell anyway.[/QUOTE]
There's always people who think scientists should be jailed for "killing a fetus without a brain", "cloning something that has no thought is still a person!11!!!1!", etc. It's kind of sad, really, that people think cells without thought are still "people" and are willing to let people die and be miserable due to some cells that are not even being killed, just cultured. You might as well stop eating anything with that logic, since you can't eat anything without "killing/abusing" thoughtless cells like the ones these scientists have grown.
[QUOTE='[Green];42001543']Oh god, pls no.
How about replacement brains for Alzheimer patients?
Maybe?[/QUOTE]
yeah sure
if you wanna kill the patient
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