Dead Schutzstaffel Captain should be cremated to 'share the fate of millions of Nazi victims' accord - Polidicks

[url]http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/15/20974980-dead-ss-captain-should-be-cremated-to-share-the-fate-of-millions-of-nazi-victims?lite[/url] [QUOTE]Efraim Zuroff, chief Nazi-hunter at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, said the body of Erich Priebke should “share the fate of millions of the Nazis’ victims, who have no grave to cry to.” Priebke died at age 100 in Rome last Friday while serving a life sentence under house arrest. His body has become something of a diplomatic problem. His birthplace in Germany became on Tuesday the third place, after Rome and Argentina, to reject the idea that he could be buried there, fearful it would energize neo-Nazi sentiment. But Zuroff -- who compiles a yearly list of the “most wanted” living Nazis and attempts to bring them to justice -- said the solution is simple. “Burn the body and scatter the ashes,” he said. Priebke was serving a life sentence under house arrest for his part in the killing of 335 civilians in 1944 near Rome. He admitted his role in what was Italy’s worst wartime massacre and never apologized. He also claimed the Holocaust was an invention by Western powers to cover up their own human rights atrocities. Priebke’s lawyer, Paolo Giachini, told Reuters on Sunday that the [I]family would be seeking a burial in Rome as soon as possible.[/I] But authorities in the Italian capital were quick to reject this, with left-leaning mayor Ignazio Marino saying it would be an insult to the city, according to several reports [IMG]http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/131015-priebke-file-vmed-1a.380;380;7;70;0.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

Despite the rhetoric, it's a good solution to the diplomatic issue.

Nazi hunters are disgusting.

[QUOTE=katbug;42539765]Nazi hunters are disgusting.[/QUOTE] I didn't even know it was a thing.

[QUOTE=kenji;42539903]I didn't even know it was a thing.[/QUOTE] The history channel still glorifies them from time to time apparently.

[QUOTE=kenji;42539903]I didn't even know it was a thing.[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly, Simon Wiesenthal himself was one of the guys who helped find Adolf Eichmann in South America. I think they have they're generally supported by Israel and Mossad. For this SS guy I think they should just do what they did to Osama - chuck his corpse in the sea and let the sharks do the rest. No tombstone and therefore, no shrine for Neo Nazis.

[QUOTE=katbug;42539765]Nazi hunters are disgusting.[/QUOTE] it's not bad to want to keep tabs on ex-Nazis in all honesty, but the way that they're glorified is pretty awful

[QUOTE=Cone;42539945]it's not bad to want to keep tabs on ex-Nazis in all honesty, but the way that they're glorified is pretty awful[/QUOTE] I saw a report a while back where they found some German footsoldier who fought up north, and these guys tracked him down and treated him as though he had flicked the switch at Auschwitz. Pretty scary mentality.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42539758]Despite the rhetoric, it's a good solution to the diplomatic issue.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. Either burn the body and dump the ashes at an undisclosed location, or dump it in the ocean, same thing they did with Binladen's body. Solves the diplomatic issue of nobody wanting the body and it doesn't give martyrs a holy place to pray to or pilgrimage to.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;42540173]The chance of a pilgrimage is low anyway, the last time that happened it was the grave of Rudolf Hess noless and not a no name like this. That and Neo-Nazims ingeneral is seeing a decline in Europe and the US every year.[/QUOTE] Neo-nazism is still a pretty big fad in Russia right now. If they would let them, I'm sure thousands would travel to the Moscow archives (or wherever it was they stored it) every year to see Hitler's skull fragments.

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

This person doesn't deserve respect, even in death.

Just give the dead man a break, dump his body wherever their family can afford to and shut up about it. Why is he such a big deal now, he's not even a person any longer but a soulless rag of decaying meat and bones.

Nazi Hunters are just fueled by revenge. Just make the grave anonymous and give the location to the relatives if that makes everybody happy.

This guy sounds like he was a living shitbag during the war. I don't really care what happens to his remains.

Just be respectful to their remains, no need to stoop down to those levels of disrespect regardless of their past.

Why don't these nazi hunters go after neo nazis instead of old men who just want to die peacefully?

[QUOTE=Mr._N;42541082]Why don't these nazi hunters go after neo nazis instead of old men who just want to die peacefully?[/QUOTE] That'd require effort and nothing makes people feel better than a false sense of accomplishment.

facepunch, by large against the death penalty by the reason that we should treat them like humans. But an old nazi who fought in a war 70 years ago doesn't get treated well at all. Does he have any family left? If so I think they should be asked.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;42540230]“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”[/QUOTE] I love the ignorance towards Nietsche.

Nazi Hunter instantly makes me think of the Jew Hunter [IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2W81KiQE-So/UOui3dKbvTI/AAAAAAAAA0s/jIJxOwhBfyk/s400/cw2.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42541171]facepunch, by large against the death penalty by the reason that we should treat them like humans. But an old nazi who fought in a war 70 years ago doesn't get treated well at all. Does he have any family left? If so I think they should be asked.[/QUOTE] They did and they are trying to get him buried in Rome but the city doesn't want them to, it's right there in the article. [QUOTE] He also claimed the Holocaust was an invention by Western powers to cover up their own human rights atrocities. Priebke’s lawyer, Paolo Giachini, told Reuters on Sunday [B]that the family would be seeking a burial in Rome as soon as possible.[/B] But authorities in the Italian capital were quick to reject this, with left-leaning mayor Ignazio Marino saying it would be an insult to the city, according to several reports[/QUOTE] Also, what has any of this got to do with the death penalty for you to bring that up? The man is already dead, of natural causes while under house arrest, serving out his life sentence. Why should the matter of how is body is disposed of raise the question of the death penalty?

No, he should be given a state funeral

To be honest Chief Nazi hunter sounds like such a badass title to have

Because several people here are against the death penalty mainly because they want to treat people who have done bad things like humans, even a murderer. Especially because they state vengeance is wrong, where at the top it says [quote]Efraim Zuroff, chief Nazi-hunter at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel, said the body of Erich Priebke should “share the fate of millions of the Nazis’ victims, who have no grave to cry to.”[/quote] this guy did all this stuff 70 years ago, back in a time when racism was the norm.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;42540691]and neither do you.[/QUOTE] I highly doubt Shreddinger was part of an organisation that orchestrated genocide. Honestly some people on here get bizarrely defensive over nazis.

All humans deserve proper burial. If you think otherwise look at the tomb of the unknown soldier in District of Columbia. Honoring the unknown no matter what they did.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;42540230]“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”[/QUOTE] Nietzsche would have been pretty pissed with you using his quote in this context, he hated anti-Semites and Nazis passionately

[QUOTE=Explosions;42540863]This guy sounds like he was a living shitbag during the war. I don't really care what happens to his remains.[/QUOTE] He wasn't a shitbag. He spent most of the war working as an interpreter in the SS. The fact he spoke Italian fluently is what got him sent to Rome to begin with to work with the police there. This entire massacre happened because Italian partisans ambushed an SS police convoy and killed 33 Germans. It was a reprisal operation. Captain Priebke wasn't even the senior officer in charge of it, Lieutenant-Colonel Karl Hass was. Hass and Priebke were both ordered to carry it out by Rome's SS Chief of Police Herbert Kappler, who may or may not have been ordered to do so by Hitler himself. They didn't even round up civilians to execute like the article claims. The 330 that were directly named by Kappler to be executed (two of which were executed by Priebke himself) were all involved with partisan organizations that the SS kept close eyes on; most of them actually came from a Communist one called The Red Banner. That's why Priebke was never charged with any their deaths, just with the other five. Those other five just accidentally got picked up in the process with the others. He killed two people himself, neither of which was apparently one of the five. And he had been found not guilty of committing any crimes at least once already because he'd been acting under orders anyway the entire time. [editline]16 October 2013[/editline] This Nazi hunting shit is getting ridiculous.

How about "it happened 7 decades ago leave the dude alone already what possible 'justice' could you hope to get from this? At some point you're just beating up an old man."