Watch Out Garry: California Passes 'Internet Undo’ Law For Children - Polidicks

[quote=Mint Press News] On Monday, California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) signed a piece of legislation into law that would grant children under the age of 18 the legal right to have content they posted on the Internet, including tweets, photos and Facebook posts, removed if they so desired. [B]Starting Jan. 1, 2015, all Internet website operators, online services, online application and mobile applications will be required to remove specific posts and photos at a minor’s request, especially if the material has the potential to harm their reputation. The key word is “remove,” since website owners do not have to delete any of the content, they just have to make it inaccessible to other users of the website. The legislation, which was proposed by Sen. Darrell Steinberg (D) and is known as the “eraser button” or right-to-delete provision, was unanimously passed by the state senate and has been hailed as an extension of a minor’s privacy rights in a world where people share more about their lives than ever before.[/B] It differs from the recently revised federal Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act in that it is the first legislation of its kind in the U.S. that actually grants a minor the legal right to remove content they posted on the internet. Talking to a local CBS affiliate in San Francisco, Steinberg said that the bill is supposed to protect “a teenager that says something on the Internet that they regret five minutes later.” He added that “under this bill, the websites in California will have to have the ability for the young teenager to remove that.” Though the bill does nothing for those over the age of 18, it has received a lot of support from adults who argue that just like juvenile criminal records can be expunged or sealed, that same courtesy should be extended to “job-seekers trying to rid Google of that embarrassing photo they sent to their boyfriend in high school.” James Steyer, chief executive of Common Sense Media, a San Francisco-based advocacy group that pushed for the legislation’s passage, called the bill “a very important milestone,” and said that “kids and teenagers often self-reveal before they self-reflect.” He called the legislation “an important first step” but said “there’s more to be done.” In addition to having the ability to eradicate online content, the bill also prohibits websites from knowingly marketing and advertising certain products, including alcoholic beverages, firearms, ammunition, tobacco products, fireworks, lottery tickets, tattoos and drug paraphernalia, to minors. The idea that children will come to associate the Internet with having an “undo” button of sorts has also been a concern for some, since the bill does not require companies to remove data from its servers or any other website that may have shared the material. Plus, in order for a website to erase a person’s data, they have to collect information about a minor, which includes proof they are under the age of 18 and are a California resident. Some who applaud the idea behind the law have also called it impractical, since companies would be forced to have multiple policies for underage residents of different states. Stephen Balkam is the president of the Family Online Safety Institute, which advises companies on online safety issues. He said that while the legislation is well-intended, he has some concerns, such as a lack of congressional oversight on the issue. “Where California leads, others follow,” he said. “I think it will be a mess.”[/quote] [url=http://www.mintpressnews.com/california-passes-internet-undo-law-for-children/169925/]Source[/url]. Here is a direct link to the new [url=http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB568]law[/url]. Another example of people who don't understand the internet passing laws about the internet.

Maybe, instead of making it easy to cover up our mistakes, we should make people own up to them and accept the consequences to what they put on the internet. This is dumb as hell.

[quote] will be required to remove specific posts and photos at a minor’s request, [b]especially[/b] if the material has the potential to harm their reputation.[/quote] Wait why is the word especially there. Does that mean they can request to remove random things that DON'T harm them too?

I thought this could be useful to remove embarrassing photos of minors uploaded without their consent but [b]edit:[/b] Alec W's post reminded me it could be used for dumb text mistakes. Also originally, the title made me think it'd be related to "undoing" a purchase somehow

[QUOTE=lord0war;42402527]Wait why is the word especially there. Does that mean they can request to remove random things that DON'T harm them too?[/QUOTE] I think anything posted by someone under 18 is technically fair game for removal with this law.

[QUOTE=Nystical;42402534]Also originally, the title made me thought it'd be related to "undoing" a purchase somehow[/QUOTE] oh shit, it really says i payed 999.95.

Sounds like a law attempting to do the parents' job.

So if things can be removed at a minor's request, I think half of Facepunch is going to be on the level of a mod soon.

[I]fuck all rust kids[/I] watch as this post gets hidden any time now

undo THIS *gives thread the finger*

[quote]On Monday, California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) signed a piece of legislation into law that would grant children under the age of 18 the legal right to have [B]content they posted on the Internet[/B], including tweets, photos and Facebook posts, removed if they so desired.[/quote] Read the article people it's in the first damn sentence :v:

garry can you please remove my inability to ban users it is hurting my internet reputation

gary i askd for a rust key and a guy trolld me, can u remove his post and mabe give me a rust key to cheer me up? pls

Great, now watch as kids will go around getting things that have nothing to do with them removed. Sometimes I really hate this state. And yes I know it says they can only have things that involve themselves removed, but I doubt that will stop them from getting random things taken down.

How many websites are located and/or headquartered in California anyway?

Wait. So California, a state, has passed a law it wants to enforce on the entire world?

even though i live in california I [B]REFUSE[/B] to enforce this law

This could be actually useful if it instead allowed minors the right to take down pictures of them that are publicly available instead of dumb text mistakes.

[QUOTE=Billy2600;42402617]How many websites are located and/or headquartered in California anyway?[/QUOTE] From the article: [quote]Meanwhile, does the person have to be a minor when they ask for a post to be removed, or can an adult ask to remove something they posted when they were a minor? And does the law apply to all websites in the U.S. or just those based in California? [B]If the law is extended to a website in another state such as Kansas, it may be a violation of the dormant Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution, which gives the ability to regulate interstate commerce solely to the U.S. Congress. In other words, while states have power granted to them under the Tenth Amendment to exercise legislative power over state constituents, no state has the legal or constitutional ability to make and enforce laws for those in other states.[/B][/quote] Basically this will affect all sites hosted in the United States of America.

Solution: Make all users, including existing ones, have to press a button saying "I'm over 18" to continue. If they request to have a post removed, Garry can then ask "Are you under 18?" and if Yes, removes all posts and I.P. Perma. So Garry doesn't have to put out a considerable amount of effort, and users can't remove their posts without the consequences that come with it. Win/win.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42402624]even though i live in california I [B]REFUSE[/B] to enforce this law[/QUOTE] garry this post harms my reputation please remove it

Uh, I don't think that's what that means. Unless this law becomes a Federal law, it will only affect people in California, which is still retarded. How can they prove whether or not I'm in California? [b]Edit:[/b] [quote]Meanwhile, does the person have to be a minor when they ask for a post to be removed, or can an adult ask to remove something they posted when they were a minor? And does the law apply to all websites in the U.S. or just those based in California? If the law is extended to a website in another state such as Kansas, it may be a violation of the dormant Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution, which gives the ability to regulate interstate commerce solely to the U.S. Congress. In other words, while states have power granted to them under the Tenth Amendment to exercise legislative power over state constituents, no state has the legal or constitutional ability to make and enforce laws for those in other states.[/quote]

[quote]He called the legislation “an important first step” but said “there’s more to be done.”[/quote] well shit.

[QUOTE=NateDude;42402651]Solution: Make all users, including existing ones, have to press a button saying "I'm over 18" to continue. If they request to have a post removed, Garry can then ask "Are you under 18?" and if Yes, removes all posts and I.P. Perma. So Garry doesn't have to put out a considerable amount of effort, and users can't remove their posts without the consequences that come with it. Win/win.[/QUOTE] What if they lie about their age?

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42402624]even though i live in california I [B]REFUSE[/B] to enforce this law[/QUOTE] Stop right there criminal accomplice scum.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42402624]even though i live in california I [B]REFUSE[/B] to enforce this law[/QUOTE] [img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/bh.png[/img] <----?

[QUOTE=Ayane-152;42402677]What if they lie about their age?[/QUOTE] If they're over 18, they aren't minors, and can't have their posts removed. So people under 18 can lie aslong as they acknowledge that their posts aren't getting removed. If they fess up to the lie, then perma IP ban and all posts gone, problem solved. If it turns out that they lied about THAT, they're shit out of luck.

[QUOTE=pentium;42402705][img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/bh.png[/img] <----?[/QUOTE] What is registration IP?

Is it just me or does this seem like it's passed this law ("For the Children!") to set a precedent so they can start trying to de-anonymize the internet, citing this law (and similar ones in the future if they pass) as a reason for it. It could be a stretch, but politicians have been trying to kill internet anonymity for years.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42402756]What is registration IP?[/QUOTE] what is mod changing regi ip jk starpluck i love u