• Samsung can't catch a break | SK HQ raided and more phones blowing the fuck up
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[QUOTE]Samsung Electronics Co. has been dragged into South Korea’s presidential scandal after investigators raided its headquarters, the latest headache facing Vice Chairman Jay Y. Lee as he tries to navigate a path out of its product recall crisis. South Korean prosecutors entered the offices of Samsung as they search for evidence the smartphone maker illegally provided gifts for a confidante of President Park Geun-hye that is at the center of an influence-peddling investigation. The company confirmed the raid and declined to comment further. The prosecutor’s raid comes as Lee deals with fallout from the exploding Note 7 debacle, which is estimated to cost the company more than $6 billion. The 48-year-old, who only joined the board last month, also has to contend with a U.S. recall of its washing machines and a push by activist investor Paul Elliott Singer for Samsung to restructure, return cash to investors and improve transparency.[/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-08/korean-prosecutors-raid-samsung-electronics-office-in-choi-probe[/URL] [QUOTE]A Samsung phone user in France says her Galaxy J5 smartphone caught fire and exploded on Sunday. The model is different from the Galaxy Note 7 that has been recalled worldwide. Lamya Bouyirdane told The Associated Press on Monday that she noticed the phone was very hot after she asked her four-year-old son to pass it over during a family gathering at her home. She said she threw the phone away when she realized it had "swollen up" and smoke was coming out. "I panicked when I saw the smoke and I had the reflex to throw it away," said Bouyirdane, a mother of three in the southwestern French city of Pau. The phone then caught fire and the back blew off. Her partner quickly extinguished it. Bouyirdane said she bought the phone new last June on a website offering discounts.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/report-samsung-phone-model-exploding-43356083[/URL] The France incident is probably just a coincidence, but it's not doing Samsung any favors at the moment.
Just got my s7 edge today too, sorta on edge with these phone explosions. I like their products but it seems their quality has dropped immensely.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;51328291]Just got my s7 edge today too, sorta on edge with these phone explosions. I like their products but it seems their quality has dropped immensely.[/QUOTE] I feel like the exploding phones is a fault with the assembly line that was originally tooled for the note 7 because these issues only started appearing after they killed note 7 production honestly, I feel pretty bad for Samsung because they're getting shit thrown at them from every direction. I can't imagine how they'd recover from all this
[QUOTE]she bought the phone new last June on a website offering discounts.[/QUOTE] discounts for bad quality
i wouldn't mind an s7. i wouldn't be scared. up until now they've been great and only been getting better, they're like malaysian airlines, shit is going south and it's mostly a case of bad fucking luck from what I can see [editline]9th November 2016[/editline] though unlike malaysian airlines i don't see them hitting the tarmac anytime soon
That phone is france failing is not even newsworthy. Batteries fail all the time, they're only writing about it because samsung.
Lithium batteries aren't infallible. The phone was in the possession of a four-year old, which leads me to believe it was probably being used for entertainment purposes frequently (here kid, grab this phone, have fun with it, and stop screaming), which means the battery was being charged much more often than usually, and it was being discharged much more aggressively than normal. That takes a toll on a lithium battery, fast. The battery essentially starts developing an internal short, with each charge cycle - if the battery degrades enough, it'll just go into thermal runaway by itself, and triggering that process is made even easier by aggressively discharging the battery. It's worth noting, smartphone batteries are pretty much always (at least to my knowledge), lithium cobalt oxide batteries, which are way more reactive than some other possible solutions, but they have a lot of capacity in exchange. Edit: Doesn't mean the phone should catch fire though. I'm not sure what the current technology is on battery monitoring (I only care about state of charge etc.), but it should theoretically be possible to detect the degradation of the battery, since it would lose significant amounts of capacity before failing, and would heat up a lot more.
[QUOTE=nikomo;51328473]Lithium batteries aren't infallible. The phone was in the possession of a four-year old, which leads me to believe it was probably being used for entertainment purposes frequently (here kid, grab this phone, have fun with it, and stop screaming), which means the battery was being charged much more often than usually, and it was being discharged much more aggressively than normal. That takes a toll on a lithium battery, fast. The battery essentially starts developing an internal short, with each charge cycle - if the battery degrades enough, it'll just go into thermal runaway by itself, and triggering that process is made even easier by aggressively discharging the battery. It's worth noting, smartphone batteries are pretty much always (at least to my knowledge), lithium cobalt oxide batteries, which are way more reactive than some other possible solutions, but they have a lot of capacity in exchange. Edit: Doesn't mean the phone should catch fire though. I'm not sure what the current technology is on battery monitoring (I only care about state of charge etc.), but it should theoretically be possible to detect the degradation of the battery, since it would lose significant amounts of capacity before failing, and would heat up a lot more.[/QUOTE] all phone with lithium batteries have dedicated chips that monitor battery charge and performance to prevent this issue. it's a bit difficult as each battery is unique, but I'm willing to guess that these battery issues are being caused by the chip or software issue.
TBH Samsung had this coming for them. Shoddy customer and product support with lowering build qualities really is really killing faith in the brand. At this point I've only owned one samsung product that hasn't given me shit and it's a monitor from like 2006.
Samsung won't recover from this, mark my words. I'm surprised they didn't booby trap the damn place with GN7s.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;51328291]Just got my s7 edge today too, sorta on edge with these phone explosions. I like their products but it seems their quality has dropped immensely.[/QUOTE] The S7E is a fantastic phone, there are thousands of them out there running without issues. Most of the issues stemmed from the S7 Note which was rushed to beat the Iphone release. All the batteries in every phone are the same and various things can cause them to rupture and catch on fire. The only reason other phones catching on fire is making the news is because of the S7 Note recall. Don't forget other phones have blown up in the past (not that it makes it any better). Samsung makes quality products its just they botched the Note 7 so fucking badly. [QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51330200]Samsung won't recover from this, mark my words. I'm surprised they didn't booby trap the damn place with GN7s.[/QUOTE] Samsung is gonna be fine.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51330200]Samsung won't recover from this, mark my words. I'm surprised they didn't booby trap the damn place with GN7s.[/QUOTE] Samsung makes a hell of a lot more components than phones and consumer electronics
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;51331267]Samsung makes a hell of a lot more components than phones and consumer electronics[/QUOTE] While agreed, the phone explosions were more or less due to the components in their mobile devices. To say other OEMs like Huawei or even Apple wouldn't be wary about using Samsung components in future devices might be a bit silly, or at the very least, they'll stay away from battery related components.
[QUOTE=NightmareX91;51328308]I feel like the exploding phones is a fault with the assembly line that was originally tooled for the note 7 because these issues only started appearing after they killed note 7 production honestly, I feel pretty bad for Samsung because they're getting shit thrown at them from every direction. I can't imagine how they'd recover from all this[/QUOTE] If they can't fix it or shut down that assembly line then they deserve all the bad press and bullshit that gets thrown at them.
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