Naturally, [nukes are] not necessary when fighting terrorists and, I hope, will never be needed"

[url]https://www.rt.com/news/325178-putin-nukes-missiles-isis/[/url] [IMG]https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.12/original/5667d07ac46188de408b4623.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] Vladimir Putin has praised the Russian cruise missiles fired against terrorists in Syria from the sea. He expressed hope that these weapons would not have to be armed with nuclear warheads. Trends Russian anti-terror op in Syria Meeting in the Kremlin with Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu, who reported the latest results of the anti-Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) ops in Syria, the Russian president made a notable remark. [video=youtube;reLmwb5rWNk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reLmwb5rWNk[/video] “We must analyze everything happening on the battlefield, how the weapons operate. The Kalibrs (sea based cruise missiles) and KH-101 (airborne cruise missile) have proved to be modern and highly effective, and now we know it for sure - precision weapons that can be equipped with both conventional and special warheads, which are nuclear,” Putin said. “Naturally, this is not necessary when fighting terrorists and, I hope, will never be needed,” the president added.[/QUOTE] [sp]never thought i would post a RT source, but hey, this deserves it.[/sp]

I don't see the issue with what he's saying... They proved their missiles work and he hopes they never hope to use them with nuclear warheads. That's a good thing.

[QUOTE=The Rifleman;49285122]I don't see the issue with what he's saying... They proved their missiles work and he hopes they never hope to use them with nuclear warheads. That's a good thing.[/QUOTE] it seems you don't quite get the implications.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;49285134]it seems you don't quite get the implications.[/QUOTE] or maybe you're just overreacting

"Hopefully" :suicide: How 'bout just leave it at no nukes? Full stop. Period. Etc.

[QUOTE=Rossy167;49285187]"Hopefully" :suicide: How 'bout just leave it at no nukes? Full stop. Period. Etc.[/QUOTE] Russia doesn't use that kind of rhetoric.

That quote was taken so out of context for the headline. Title implies Putin entertained the thought of using nukes against IS, an utterly ridiculous notion, rather than the relatively mundane statement he actually made of hoping nuclear weapons are never needed at all against anyone.

That headline was so weirdly misleading, this isn't really about ISIS at all just Russian military capability

The only way that would ever happen is if ISIS detonated a suit case nuke in Moscow or something.

[QUOTE=Saxon;49285245]The only way that would ever happen is if ISIS detonated a suit case nuke in Moscow or something.[/QUOTE] ....yeah so they would just nuke the whole middle east right?

You can read in the article, the last line right there. The title is so wrong and not what he's actually saying at all.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;49285607]....yeah so they would just nuke the whole middle east right?[/QUOTE] They just might.

[QUOTE=Kylel999;49285607]....yeah so they would just nuke the whole middle east right?[/QUOTE] I'm just waiting for someone to come along and respond to that with "Yeah that's probably better than what's going on now."

Who is he talking to in that video? And why is it posed like a some kind of candid recording?

[QUOTE=St33m;49285769]They just might.[/QUOTE] If something as big as Moscow gets any sort of nuke successfully detonated at, shit will go down really hard.

I don't think Putin ever would cause of backlash, seems like he just wants to scare ISIS

You know after not being a big fan of Putin in the beginning I've come to like him. I'd never want to live in Russia but the man knows how to get shit done. Sure there's civilian casualties which aren't great ever. But he's doing way more than the west had ever done.

doesnt really mean anything since Russia will only launch nukes in self defense, Russia is just really tired of dealing with the Middle East's shit and is being blunt that's all.

[QUOTE=apierce1289;49286218]You know after not being a big fan of Putin in the beginning I've come to like him. I'd never want to live in Russia but the man knows how to get shit done. Sure there's civilian casualties which aren't great ever. But he's doing way more than the west had ever done.[/QUOTE] Putin should be nobody's idea of a leader. We in europe underwent a whole lot of shit until we got over the 'strong autocratic leader who carries the nation on his shoulder' idea. Please don't perpetuate it. I think what you meant to say is, that the russian mindset when it comes to taking drastic measures, makes them a whole lot more unpredictable, and thus nobody really wants to kick that particular beehive. I can see why you would respect that, seems a lot more earnest and human than the robotic financial diplomacy the west engages in.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;49285134]it seems you don't quite get the implications.[/QUOTE] Elaborate please.

[QUOTE=apierce1289;49286218]You know after not being a big fan of Putin in the beginning I've come to like him. I'd never want to live in Russia but the man knows how to get shit done. Sure there's civilian casualties which aren't great ever. But he's doing way more than the west had ever done.[/QUOTE] yea he knows how to get shit done. inhumane, despicable shit that no sane human being should support, specifically.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;49286289] I can see why you would respect that, seems a lot more earnest and human than the robotic financial diplomacy the west engages in.[/QUOTE] Yeah well it seems like that, but I bet the way our government actually operates is far more calculated and accounted for than it seems. I think it's kinda supposed to look genuine and earnest, but to what point is it true? A lot of that stuff seems to be too convenient. What western politicians engage in is actually a good old fashioned stupidity and lack of confidence, which tends to happen when elites get way too comfy in their positions. Like, the other side of the same coin to what is happening in Russia, I think. Putin's administration is also incompetent [b]as fuck[/b] but hides it behind the façade of emotion-based response. We're European too, we can't be [b]that[/b] different.

He didnt say "hopefully nukes wont be needed against isis" He explained about the weapon and mentioned that it can be equipped with nuclear warheads. “Naturally, [b]this is not necessary when fighting terrorists[/b] and, [b]I hope, will never be needed[/b]” He is just saying that the missiles can be equipped with nuclear warheads, and that he hopes that they never will be. Period.

Didn't he say he was going to nuke mecca if they ever attacked russia?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49286399]yea he knows how to get shit done. inhumane, despicable shit that no sane human being should support, specifically.[/QUOTE] I don't support it but drastic times call for drastic measures. And the USA is more worried about it's public image than dealing with this Isis scum. I by no means want innocent people to die ever. Isis possess a serious threat to everyone and someone needs to fuck them to hell and back.

I dont like the fact that he even considered a nuclear option.

[QUOTE=Zombie_2371;49288664]I dont like the fact that he even considered a nuclear option.[/QUOTE] If Putin decided to use nuclear weapons on Isis just think of how much propaganda that would provide Isis with. The only real thing that you could do to stop them is to cut their resources and their cash flow. And then install a government that would fight against them and keep them in check.

[QUOTE=Zombie_2371;49288664]I dont like the fact that he even considered a nuclear option.[/QUOTE] Nowhere does it say that he did. It merely says he didn't think it necessary, and hopes that it won't never come to it.

[QUOTE=apierce1289;49288773]If Putin decided to use nuclear weapons on Isis just think of how much propaganda that would provide Isis with. The only real thing that you could do to stop them is to cut their resources and their cash flow. And then install a government that would fight against them and keep them in check.[/QUOTE] If nuclear weapons are used, ISIS propaganda will be pretty far down the list of our problems.

[QUOTE=Lium;49289141]Nowhere does it say that he did. It merely says he didn't think it necessary, and hopes that it won't never come to it.[/QUOTE] The fact that he doesnt think it necessary means that he concidered the idea of using them.