College ‘Diversity Council’ Admits to Posting Fake Racist Flyers On Campus
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[quote=the poster] A NOTICE TO ALL WHITE AMERICANS
IT IS YOUR CIVIC DUTY TO REPORT ANY AND ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS TO U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT
THEY ARE CRIMINALS
AMERICA IS A WHITE NATION[/quote]
[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/23/minn-college-diversity-council-apologizes-after-ra/[/url]
[quote]A student organization at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minnesota, has apologized after a social experiment involving racist fliers backfired.
The fliers briefly posted on campus Monday said “white Americans” had a “civic duty to report any and all illegal aliens to U.S. Immigrations [sic] and Customs Enforcement,” Campus Reform reported.
“They are criminals,” the fliers read in block letters. “America is a white nation.”
Students tore down the signs within minutes and reported them to the school’s Bias Response Team. Later Monday evening, the Gustavus Diversity Leadership Council posted a statement on Facebook admitting that a subcommittee of the group and a social justice theater troupe posted the signs “in an effort to help educate our peers and campus community about issues of bias, and the importance of being an active bystander.”[/quote]
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/24/college-diversity-council-apologizes-for-racist-fliers-on-campus.html](source 2)[/url]
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When you don't have a problem to solve: Create one.
Shame these assholes aren't able to get charged for this.
A "social experiment", you say?
Suuuure.
and they REALLY had to word it in the most draconian way they possibly could?
[QUOTE]a social justice theater troupe[/QUOTE]
:weeb:
Just like those firemen who set fires to have a job
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;52006576]Just like those firemen who set fires to have a job[/QUOTE]
i'd argue not quite. its kind of a thrill thing for fire fighters that do this.
Fuck it, too many false flags. I just...
I know we should be taking hateful flyers, bomb threats, violence etc seriously but it seems like every goddamn time it's another false flag. I just can't trust anything anymore, i'm out.
I'm fed up to hell with people thinking that the ends justify the means, and that by creating this crap they "raise awareness" like ffs if it is a truly serious issue you shouldn't have to raise awareness.
These people should be charged just the same as if it was a Neo-Nazi who put those posters up.
Man I hate it when people do shit like this. It just makes life worse for literally everybody else except people who use this as 'anti-sjw' fuel.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;52006662]Fuck it, too many false flags. I just...
I know we should be taking hateful flyers, bomb threats, violence etc seriously but it seems like every goddamn time it's another false flag. I just can't trust anything anymore, i'm out.
I'm fed up to hell with people thinking that the ends justify the means, and that by creating this crap they "raise awareness" like ffs if it is a truly serious issue you shouldn't have to raise awareness.
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I suspect this is confirmation bias. A fake report/false flag is more likely to be reported and makes for a more interesting story.
Eg hate crime figures (from police) showed an increase in hatecrime of 115% in 2016. But a figure makes for a much less impactful, less interesting and less memorable story than the false flags you see - possibly because the false flag thing challenges a commonly accepted narrative. Like how climate deniers will ignore the slew of data supporting climate change and focus on the 1 piece which challenges the narrative. Maybe its an underdog or "challenge authority" thing.
Also posters here don't really post hatecrime and its not really reported on. But we have people like Tudd who is sure to post every single false flag he can find - creating the impression over time that all of them are false flags.
Like what happened with BLM - most protests are peaceful but the tv only shows violent ones so the view is warped to think all the protests are violent.
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These people should be charged just the same as if it was a Neo-Nazi who put those posters up.[/QUOTE]
I agree these peeps did wrong but charging them with hatecrime wouldn't stand up in court.
Better to perhaps ban them from being on the diversity council? Or ensure that any mesages they produce MUST come with some sort of disclaimer demonstrating their unreliability and lack of integrity.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52006777]A fake report/false flag is more likely to be reported and makes for a more interesting story.[/QUOTE]
As opposed to what a real story about racism?
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;52006799]As opposed to what a real story about racism?[/QUOTE]
[quote]Eg hate crime figures (from police) showed an increase in hatecrime of 115% in 2016.[/quote]
"1 fake hate crime is a tragedy, a 115% rise in actual confirmed hate crimes is just a statistic" - Joseph Stalin
[quote]...and reported them to the school’s Bias Response Team[/quote]
American schools are bizarre places
I dont get false flags, they always get caught, and it just gives ammunition to the other side
[quote]JoNes VanHecke, the Dean of Students, told Fox 9 the school was aware of the plan to post the signs and had staffers supervising the posters.
“We had multiple students who reported the incidents to the institution, and that’s the kind of positive bystander interaction we would hope for,” said VanHecke.
VenHecke said she sympathizes with any students traumatized by the posters, calling their reactions “legitimate and important feelings.”
Asked if anything should have been done differently, VanHecke replied, “I think a message to students earlier in the day would have been a good move in retrospect.”[/quote]
[url]http://www.fox9.com/news/243094120-story[/url]
This is legit an attempt to promote active bystanders, it just had poor execution, apparently.
[QUOTE=MasterKade;52006960][url]http://www.fox9.com/news/243094120-story[/url]
This is legit an attempt to promote active bystanders, it just had poor execution, apparently.[/QUOTE]
But promote active bystanders to a fake poster, which seems rather pointless. They could have made a poster just explicitly saying that you should be an active bystander but they lied and misled and created pandemonium. This wasn't just poor execution it was a terrible idea. If people were legitimately "traumatized" and they didn't disclaim that it was "practice" then what have they achieved other than making people more skeptical and dismissive towards this sort of thing.
It's these kind of assholes that give ammunition to r/the_donald & company.
What is wrong with Americans that they keep causing false flags and take away attention from actual racist and discrimination incidents?
I've never heard of such a thing happening over in Europe, and there was [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crimes-racism-eu-referendum-vote-attacks-increase-police-figures-official-a7358866.html"]definitely a huge increase in hate crimes in Britain after the Brexit vote[/URL], as an example.
What's different in the culture of America that encourages this?
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52007120]What is wrong with Americans that they keep causing false flags and take away attention from actual racist and discrimination incidents?
I've never heard of such a thing happening over in Europe, and there was [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crimes-racism-eu-referendum-vote-attacks-increase-police-figures-official-a7358866.html"]definitely a huge increase in hate crimes in Britain after the Brexit vote[/URL], as an example.
What's different in the culture of America that encourages this?[/QUOTE]
Something about colleges in the US seems to produce a disproportionately high ratio of self-victimizing snowflakes
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52007120]What is wrong with Americans that they keep causing false flags and take away attention from actual racist and discrimination incidents?
I've never heard of such a thing happening over in Europe, and there was [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crimes-racism-eu-referendum-vote-attacks-increase-police-figures-official-a7358866.html"]definitely a huge increase in hate crimes in Britain after the Brexit vote[/URL], as an example.
What's different in the culture of America that encourages this?[/QUOTE]
A common argument I encountered at school was that, "Democratic process has a low efficacy," and that, "you have to make people realize what they're really fighting against, because arguing with these people (in case, a Young Libertarians Society) only legitimizes them."
It's easy to expand that outward to be, "we have to instill in people a fear of what we know the real endgame of our opponents is." (In the case of the Young Libertarians, the person I talked to unabashedly called them, "Neo-Confederates" before tearing down a poster advertising their talk.)
In the same way that Christian Republicans say that not allowing the Ten Commandments to be displayed on a Courthouse is an attack on Christianity that will culminate in institutional Atheism, these people, however large or small a subset of the University-population they may be, believe the only way to prevent real Nazis from coming to power is to make people believe there are already Nazis to fight. (Or they believe, like some people here do, that plenty of our current leadership is just as bad as Nazis, your-mileage-may-vary.)
Then of course there are just your average, consumer grade attention whores or public trolls, which comes in all flavors and creeds, like the Westboro Baptist Church and the like.
A lot of the well intentioned false-flagging (if you can call it that) comes from the fact that in America we haven't had a Socialist watershed moment, so leftists who believe they're fighting against authoritarianism haven't had a chance to figure out what their place in society is, constructively. They're fundamentally doing the same marching patterns that proto-socialists were eeking out in the 20's (public consciousness raising, aggressive tactics), and in Europe, figured out didn't quite work through the 60's and 70's, before reforming.
Christ, how many are we up to now?
I feel like every few days im reading about another faked story.
oh I'm so tired of retards like this making a bad name for the left
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;52006576]Just like those firemen who set fires to have a job[/QUOTE]
We actually had a glass/window company pay a kid with a bb gun to go around shooting people's windows out years back. People can be gross as shit when it comes to personal gain.
american colleges are actually scary right now
Are they actually?
Shit like this doesn't seem to ever happen in britain (mostly because we are well aware of how powerless we all are)
I thought most 'SJW' shit hardly ever happened in real life, and the most vocal people who're into that social justice stuff are all on the internet or in certain groups that rarely interact with others. I've never seen my university try any such shit.
As a resident of St. Peter, this shocks me actually, the students at Gustavus are usually SUPER liberal. Never met anyone from the school who struck me as the type to go and pull some shit like this. I guess that fact explains why is was taken down so quickly though.
what the fuck, who is this even helping?
[QUOTE=usenet;52008600]american colleges are actually scary right now[/QUOTE]
Really they aren't, especially not the one mentioned. Just because a few dickheads think this was a good idea doesn't not mean they all are. As pretentious as some of the students at this college are, they aren't bad people by any means.
Man who on earth thought this was a good idea
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