Canadian government to introduce Bill C-51 amendments during clause-by-clause review this Tuesday - Polidicks

[url]http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/amid-criticism-federal-government-to-introduce-amendments-to-bill-c-51-next-week-1.2301046[/url] [quote=CTV]The federal government will propose a number of amendments to its controversial anti-terror legislation next week, including clarification that CSIS officers will not be able to make arrests and lawful protests will not be considered terror-related activities. "As we have said for many weeks, we are open to amendments that make sense and that improve the Anti-terrorism Act, 2015," said a government source. The government will introduce the amendments when the bill goes to clause-by-clause review on Tuesday.[/quote]

This bill is such a fucking travesty. It's only outdone by the party that wrote it.

I still do not fucking understand behind the opposition parties. [quote]We do not like what is in it, but we'll support it anyways.[/quote] How much money are they being paid to push this?? Fuck you Harper. I'll say it now before you make a federal offense. I hope you're struck down before you leave parliment.

I am quite suprised no one has tried to end harper yet. That guy does not give two fucks about the people of canada.

I don't like how the conservatives do these mega bills. Some things I can agree with, others vehemently no I don't.

Fuck Harper and his administration.

Harper with this C-51 bill sounds quite similar to the same anti-terror laws just passed here in Aus with Abbott's NSLA (National Security Legislation Amendment). Both are conservative leaders who enacted super-sized legislation enforcing blanket measures in which seem to not work and affect civil liberties rather than actually catching out potential terrorists. None of it seem to be really thought out in reassuring citizens that they won't be indiscriminately targeted because of who they are or what they wear or what their opinions are on certain topics. Whether or not these amendments will clarify these issues will hopefully be examined in full detail by the judiciary.

Id just like to mention Im canadian and I also hate Harper Im not sure who Im voting for next year but it sure as shit aint him

[QUOTE=pentium;47409043]I still do not fucking understand behind the opposition parties. How much money are they being paid to push this?? Fuck you Harper. I'll say it now before you make a federal offense. I hope you're struck down before you leave parliment.[/QUOTE] It's just the Liberals that are tacitly supporting this. The NDP are strongly opposed to c-51.

Vote NDP in the coming elections.

I'll vote Green just to spoil my ballot but still be in the statistics.

You have, like, zero terrorism. Why are you doing this, Canada?

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47412891]You have, like, zero terrorism. Why are you doing this, Canada?[/QUOTE] Because Harper isn't a person for the people he's a fucking idiot who puts on a charade that he's a smart man. However while he's within parliament he's been doing backshit and operating like a dictator but only using legal measures to obfuscate anyone who'd actually oppose or try to say what shit he's doing.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47412891]You have, like, zero terrorism. Why are you doing this, Canada?[/QUOTE] Harper wants to keep in bed with the states, even though economically we don't like to deal with eachother as much as we should be (We've been doing this for years. Remember the Arrow?) By basically running a (pseudo) police state and sucking the cock of their intelligence services the United States has no reason to shun us for being "undefended and unprepared for the [I]what-if scenario[/I]". He's also trying to appeal to a demographic which has no real idea what they are about to lose. If he says they're safe and secure, he expects that to translate into votes next year. Even if he loses we're fucked regardless.

Trudeau is a god damned idiot by supporting this bill. Nice job ensuring that the left-wing vote is split and the conservatives get another majority shithead. [editline]28th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47412891]You have, like, zero terrorism. Why are you doing this, Canada?[/QUOTE] This is a government trying to make nihabs an election issue. It's pandering to islamophobia, plain and simple.

I think I know how we can amend this thing acceptably Ctrl+A > Delete > Ctrl+S

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;47409527]It's just the Liberals that are tacitly supporting this. The NDP are strongly opposed to c-51.[/QUOTE] The Liberals flipped-flopped over the issue. The NDP is the only party that have always been against the bill in all its incarnations.

[QUOTE=archangel125;47409581]Vote NDP in the coming elections.[/QUOTE] Vote libertarian.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47425527]Vote libertarian.[/QUOTE] And never would there be a better way to fuck Canada. Libertarianism doesn't work. That's basically saying "Hey, know how Harper was trying to tear down Canada's national healthcare and corporate regulation? We need MORE of that."

[QUOTE=archangel125;47428311]And never would there be a better way to fuck Canada. Libertarianism doesn't work. That's basically saying "Hey, know how Harper was trying to tear down Canada's national healthcare and corporate regulation? We need MORE of that."[/QUOTE] The far left political parties tend to be full of idiots. They also tend to waste billions of dollars and over tax the general population. Like the long gun registry, like the unfinished power plants billions were spent on, like retarded eco tax so many people pay on top of high HST that does nothing for the environment.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47428373]The far left political parties tend to be full of idiots. They also tend to waste billions of dollars and over tax the general population.[/QUOTE] Good thing none of the main parties could be adequately characterized as "far left" then.

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;47428385]Good thing none of the main parties could be adequately characterized as "far left" then.[/QUOTE] I meant parties leaning towards the left.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47428373]The far left political parties tend to be full of idiots. They also tend to waste billions of dollars and over tax the general population. Like the long gun registry, like the unfinished power plants billions were spent on, like retarded eco tax so many people pay on top of high HST that does nothing for the environment.[/QUOTE] And this here is why you never vote NDP, you'll know the experience first hand if you have ever lived in Manitoba during the Doer and Sellinger days. Even if Trudeau supports it too, he'd be quicker to say "okay okay, we'll rework things" when there's a mass outcry of opposition than Harper.

Honestly, I'd rather be taxed more and at least have some development in this country then see it continue to be governed by neoliberal idiots who are so fucking delusional that they think their economic and domestic policy aren't grossly contributing to our current downward spiral. You know what's worse than the supposed "waste" of the left? [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/sean-casey/harper-debt-economy_b_3976972.html"]This shit.[/URL] Convincing people that you somehow have a hold on things when the only legacy this government has left is decay and waste. Our social safety net is torn apart. There are murmurs of the CPC wanting to fuck about with healthcare. Our military has been all but gutted by budget cuts and insane wasteful spending towards the F-35s and similar white elephants. What does a country that's the second-largest in the world and a disproportionately small population do with it's natural resources? Don't invest the oil money like Norway or anyone else with a grain of sense. Remove environmental protections while we're at it! Who needs all of this unfathomably beautiful land anyways? Fuck any investment in national transport infrastructure, we only need pipelines to get the oil out! Sell oil production to the People's Republic of China, and then make ham-fisted international statements about human rights. What happened to the international reputation as peacekeepers? We're apparently too busy half-assedly sending outdated planes to bomb ISIS to worry about helping the people fleeing them. Who the fuck does Harper think he's kidding, making a statement of "telling off" Putin? The way we've been handling ourselves we're not exactly in a position to seem threatening to anyone. These aren't the statements of a man who represents this country, they're the statement of a person who is living in a delusion of a neoconservative corporatist fuckscape and is going to say literally anything to get at least 36% of people to vote for him. How does refusing any effort at transparency give them any grounds to talk about building healthy democracies worldwide? [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election_voter_suppression_scandal"]What about fucking voter fraud?[/URL] How do[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Senate_expenses_scandal"]clear instances of corruption[/URL] give them grounds to talk about excess and wasteful spending? Then there's this shit. A bill that virtually the entire legal community and every political circle outside of the CPC opposes vehemently, that comes virtually out of nowhere other than the clear exploitation of the Ottawa attack. I think anyone - whatever their political leaning - who considers themselves even the most remotely patriotic Canadian needs to see that we have to to head in precisely the opposite direction that these goddamned criminals have been taking us.

Conservatives are introducing a lot of really fucked up bills lately [url]http://www.conservative.ca/cpc/protecting-canadians-from-barbaric-cultural-practices/[/url]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;47431429]Conservatives are introducing a lot of really fucked up bills lately [url]http://www.conservative.ca/cpc/protecting-canadians-from-barbaric-cultural-practices/[/url][/QUOTE] I mean that sounds good in theory, but we don't know what "barbaric cultural practices" will actually mean in practice.

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;47431468]I mean that sounds good in theory, but we don't know what "barbaric cultural practices" will actually mean in practice.[/QUOTE] Most if not all of the stuff they're preposing to ban is already illegal. It's incredibly confusing, even after reading 5 articles I still don't understand it. From what I got they're basically trying to cut immigration and rally anti-immigration supporters to the conservative cause [editline]31st March 2015[/editline] And it's highly ignorant too because they're blaming the culture not the people [quote]The NDP strongly condemns these types of violence endured by women, but refuses to associate these practices with specific cultural groups. By associating these crimes and these types of violence with cultural practices, the short title of Bill S-7, the Zero Tolerance for Barbaric Cultural Practices Act, which I have read for the benefit of everyone following our debate, reminds us of the Conservatives' mediocrity and their ignorance of the realities of cultural communities. By claiming that cultural groups have a monopoly on these types of violence, the Conservatives are engaging in their usual practices of witch hunts, divisiveness and stigmatization. -Robert Aubin Trois-Rivières, QC[/quote] The bill that I linked and the antiterrorist bill have the same theme: "BEWARE OF MUSLIMS HARMING OUR CULTURE"

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47428373]The far left political parties tend to be full of idiots. They also tend to waste billions of dollars and over tax the general population. Like the long gun registry, like the unfinished power plants billions were spent on, like retarded eco tax so many people pay on top of high HST that does nothing for the environment.[/QUOTE] Then you're an idiot. Government needs taxation to fund infrastructure maintenance and social security, both of which are basic necessities for any society that has a standard of living above third-world levels.

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;47431381] I think anyone - whatever their political leaning - who considers themselves even the most remotely patriotic Canadian needs to see that we have to to head in precisely the opposite direction that these goddamned criminals have been taking us.[/QUOTE] Definitely. Problem is the other parties are just another side of the corrupt borderline criminal coin. Damn do we ever need a corporatism purge, but as long as the US continues in their direction we will follow blindly. [editline]31st March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Taepodong-2;47431468]I mean that sounds good in theory, but we don't know what "barbaric cultural practices" will actually mean in practice.[/QUOTE] playing video games for more than 1 hour a day.

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;47431468]I mean that sounds good in theory, but we don't know what "barbaric cultural practices" will actually mean in practice.[/QUOTE] Barbaric cultural practices = Openly practicing Muslims with the gall to exist on the same landmass