So I am getting together components to build a new rig and I am stuck on the graphics card. What I would like to know is what card would be the best bang for your buck and also which one is better than the other, which one will run better and so on. The fist card is the SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X R9 290X ([url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202103[/url]) and the second one is the EVGA GeForce GTX 780 6GB ([url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487040[/url]). All help would be greatly appreciated, If you have another suggestion don't be afraid to throw that out there also.
If you can I would go with the R9 290x
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Graphics-11226-00-40G/dp/B00HJOKARI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407733939&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+290x[/url]
It is definitely worth the price.
Why get that 290X when I have seen benchmarks where the one I have posted outperforms the one you suggested?
Weird, from my research the 290X does indeed outperform the 780. But your link for the AMD card isn't a 290X, atleast from what it says on newegg, I could be wrong. I would go AMD, in my opinion Nvdia cards are a bit overpriced for the performance you receive.
Nvidia cards have a lot of little extra software things and greater optimization in many professional programs. You certainly get what you pay for. If you are not going to utilize these, get the AMD
shadowplay is pointless, Dxtory with Lagarith Lossless codec destroys shawdow play, yes it is optimized for professional programs but since he didn't state it was this I am assuming it's for gaming. Nvidia might be worth for people who pay for the name and worthless software(shadow play)
But some people pay for Nvidia because they don't want too much heat.
[QUOTE=miroki;45665352]But some people pay for Nvidia because they don't want too much heat.[/QUOTE]
The differences are honestly negligible. It was a big deal when the r9 290's first came out because the reference heatsink was terrible and it took longer than usual for manufacturers to release their non-reference models.
Do I really need the 6gb of memory if I did go with the 780 or is that overkill, I would be running at least 2 monitors maybe 3, Would it be worth it to pay for the extra 3 gb over the 3gb version?
[QUOTE=npd1124;45670837]Do I really need the 6gb of memory if I did go with the 780 or is that overkill, I would be running at least 2 monitors maybe 3[/QUOTE]
I would go with AMD regardless.
Nvidia is an overpriced piece of shit, no offense to the people that buy it of course, just my opinion.
[QUOTE=Death Assured;45670897]I would go with AMD regardless.
Nvidia is an overpriced piece of shit.[/QUOTE]
I am not looking for AMD or Nvidia fanboys to say that the other is a peice of shit, I want an un biased opinion that will give me information not just nasty comments about the other brand. I personally like Nvidia but I am open to other options.
[QUOTE=npd1124;45670945]I am not looking for AMD or Nvidia fanboys to say that the other is a peice of shit, I want an un biased opinion that will give me information not just nasty comments about the other brand. I personally like Nvidia but I am open to other options.[/QUOTE]
Then I wouldn't ask "on facepunch, try looking at Newegg's or linustechtips, they provide unbiased opinions. But by all means waste your money.
Why thank you for no help whatsoever
[QUOTE=npd1124;45671073]Why thank you for no help whatsoever[/QUOTE]
So suggesting help by looking on very reliable forums such as Linustechtips or Newegg's Youtube videos isn't help? Blocked.
Death Assured is correct, don't ask for help and then say we didn't. However, I do have something if you're still interested.
While Geforce runs quieter and cooler under load... the difference is almost unnoticeable and isn't worth dumping one for another.
I do use two GTX 660s in reference coolers but that was because I originally got my computer for more than just gaming and had to focus on other areas on the computer. When I decided to "upgrade", I bought another card instead of doing a true upgrade because it was cheaper. Not the smartest idea.
The point of my story is.. get the most power out the gate if at all possible.
I think that 3GB is good for dual monitors at this time, if you really feel the need for the extra VRAM, then the 780 is an option.
The 780 is an EVGA Superclocked which means a little overclocking that the manufacturer has done, so it's faster out of the box. I think the boost is usually ~1000 Mhz but I'm not positive.
Honestly, $120 for what, a little performance boost that won't benefit you too terribly much? Not worth it. Nvidia usually has a history of more stable drivers that AMD is pretty much able to match now.
Anything more than 2 monitors might want to make you grab the 780, but again, all up to you.
I know you said you're comfortable with Geforce so do what you feel you would benefit from in the end. SLI and Crossfire are both available, so if you feel that one isn't fast enough in the future it's either time to upgrade, or if you're in the daring mood, grab a second card. If a game isn't compatible with two cards, turn SLI or Crossfire off or set the second card to render PhysX.
Don't get the 6gb model. Falls into the same problems as any of nvidia's doubled ram models. As I said before, if you don't need the nvidia for a specific reason, get the r9 290x
[QUOTE=Levelog;45671468]Don't get the 6gb model. Falls into the same problems as any of nvidia's doubled ram models. As I said before, if you don't need the nvidia for a specific reason, get the r9 290x[/QUOTE]
Well I realized that it isnt the 290x its just the 290, the 290x of the same card is $646 on amazon, so i feel like the in this case the 780 may be the better option. The regular 290 i feel would be blown out of the water by the 780 but I have no idea [url]http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-VAPOR-X-PCI-Express-Graphics-11226-09-40G/dp/B00K2OJ38O/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407874719&sr=1-7&keywords=r9+290x[/url]
[QUOTE=GeEkOfWiReS;45671389]Death Assured is correct, don't ask for help and then say we didn't. However, I do have something if you're still interested.
While Geforce runs quieter and cooler under load... the difference is almost unnoticeable and isn't worth dumping one for another.
I do use two GTX 660s in reference coolers but that was because I originally got my computer for more than just gaming and had to focus on other areas on the computer. When I decided to "upgrade", I bought another card instead of doing a true upgrade because it was cheaper. Not the smartest idea.
The point of my story is.. get the most power out the gate if at all possible.
I think that 3GB is good for dual monitors at this time, if you really feel the need for the extra VRAM, then the 780 is an option.
The 780 is an EVGA Superclocked which means a little overclocking that the manufacturer has done, so it's faster out of the box. I think the boost is usually ~1000 Mhz but I'm not positive.
Honestly, $120 for what, a little performance boost that won't benefit you too terribly much? Not worth it. Nvidia usually has a history of more stable drivers that AMD is pretty much able to match now.
Anything more than 2 monitors might want to make you grab the 780, but again, all up to you.
I know you said you're comfortable with Geforce so do what you feel you would benefit from in the end. SLI and Crossfire are both available, so if you feel that one isn't fast enough in the future it's either time to upgrade, or if you're in the daring mood, grab a second card. If a game isn't compatible with two cards, turn SLI or Crossfire off or set the second card to render PhysX.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, and you make very valid points.
[QUOTE=npd1124;45671535]Well I realized that it isnt the 290x its just the 290, the 290x of the same card is $646 on amazon, so i feel like the in this case the 780 may be the better option. The regular 290 i feel would be blown out of the water by the 780 but I have no idea [url]http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-VAPOR-X-PCI-Express-Graphics-11226-09-40G/dp/B00K2OJ38O/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407874719&sr=1-7&keywords=r9+290x[/url][/QUOTE]
The r9 290 and 780 are pretty much neck and neck, with the 290 both usually being cheaper and performs better at resolutions above 1080p
[QUOTE=Levelog;45672653]The r9 290 and 780 are pretty much neck and neck, with the 290 both usually being cheaper and performs better at resolutions above 1080p[/QUOTE]
Yeah I guess you are right, They are pretty much neck and neck other than maybe 5-10 fps difference, I will probably end up going with the r9 as its 120 dollars cheaper, Thank you everyone for your help, and I am sorry Death for my rudeness
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These are going to be the parts that I am going with, I do realize that the power supply is a little overkill but I want room to expand in the future If I ever want to do so. [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/user/npd1124/saved/CCrRsY[/url]
The RAM kit is a massive waste of money. You can get 16gb @ 1600mhz for that price. RAM speed makes zero difference in games
[editline]12th August 2014[/editline]
Also I'd highly recommend the corsair AX or AXi series over the RM
alright I updated things, would you recomend 2x8gb dims or 4x4gb dims ? [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KvL7sY[/url]
[QUOTE=npd1124;45673662]alright I updated things, would you recomend 2x8gb dims or 4x4gb dims ? [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KvL7sY[/url][/QUOTE]
No problem and sorry for being an AMD fan boy, I hope you enjoy your new system! But as far as RAM goes, levelog is right, but I always say the more RAM the merrier.
Looks awesome. The only other thing is the cooler. I've just never seen any benchmarks on it. Could be a great one
Well have you guys used 16gb in both configurations or no. Would it be wise to go with 2x8gb dims in case I want to upgrade in the future. Although I do feel like I will never need any more than 16gb
[QUOTE=npd1124;45677015]Well have you guys used 16gb in both configurations or no. Would it be wise to go with 2x8gb dims in case I want to upgrade in the future. Although I do feel like I will never need any more than 16gb[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you are doing, I use almost 8Gb of RAM when I render things or when I play this game called Planetary Annihilation.
2x8 is better. It leaves more room for expandability, and technically it's recommended to only use 2 slots for various reasons that don't really make a difference.
Yeah, go with 2x8GB. Just as the setup has more than one stick in your system...
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