So yes i need to make sure everything here will connect perfectly and be compattible:
COMPUTER ALONE: [url]http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?prodSeriesId=5187022&objectID=c03378186[/url]
POWER SUPPLY: [url]http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=EA650PLATINUM-DH[/url]
GRAPHICS CARD: [url]http://www.frys.com/product/7551666;jsessionid=+LlSedayMR7a4n6FYoEhbw__.node4?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG[/url]
After i buy all these extra merchandise it ends up being $750
Will everything fit in place perfectly... if so comment down below so i can make sure before i buy.
BTW IF YOU KNOW ANY REALLY GOOD GAMING DESKTOPS FOR 750 DOLLARS PUT IT DOWN IN THE COMMENT SECTION WITH A LINK!
If you build your own pc for $750, it will end up a lot better than a HP with an i3.
Remember that prebuilts are overpriced and that corporations that publicly produce prebuilts (dell, HP etc.) are the worst offenders for overpricing pcs.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41407652]PUT IT DOWN IN THE COMMENT SECTION[/QUOTE]
This isn't youtube.
If you want to buy a prebuilt computer, you are wasting your money.
Things wrong with this computer by part:
Motherboard
MicroATX form factor causes problems.
Ugly as shit.
Only supports gen 2 PCIe (that video card won't run to its full potential)
Only 2 memory sockets, max 16 GB.
Generation old chipset.
Manufactured by Foxconn.
Only USB 3 is internal connectors, and I don't see any on that case so you likely won't have any at all.
Processor
Generation old.
i3
Only dual core.
Only 3.3 Ghz.
It's not inherently a bad processor, but it does [B][U][I]not[/I][/U][/B] have any place in a [B][U][I]$750[/I][/U][/B] build.
HDD
Anonymous 7200 RPM HDD.
Wouldn't trust it.
As you can see not all 7200 RPM HDDs are equal:
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/internal-hard-drive/#xcx=0&t=7200&i=25&f=2&qq=1&s=1000000[/url]
Cache size also not listed.
DVD Drive
You don't have a choice whether or not to include it, as you do when building your own.
Case
2 x 3.5" drive bays
2 x 5.25" bays
Undoubtedly limited cooling and few fans.
Power Supply
Yes, I know you are getting your own, but your still going to have to purchase their piece of shit and throw it out.
300W
Christ knows how many connectors.
It may not even have PCIe connectors or more than two sata cables.
I wouldn't put it past a company to go bare minimum.
Possibly an IED only kept stable because they put bare minimum parts and adding more could fry them all.
Keyboard and Mouse:
HIDs shouldn't come with a computer, you should choose your own.
Computer in General:
Rediculously overpriced.
Not upgradable without throwing out the PSU.
Comes with ridiculous amount of bloatware (including goddamn NORTON), the likes of which you can never be sure to fully eliminate unless you reinstall your entire goddamn operating system (or preform an equivalent operation).
Can't guarantee reliability of ANY SINGLE PART in this build, as well as the whole thing.
Can't guarantee everything will fit, because you don't know what they've done to the inside of the case or if they've really manufactured it to the proper ATX standard.
I'd also like to add that they will have the stock heatsink (if they even have a heatsink which they may very well not) on that i3, whereas you can get an actually [B][U][I]good[/I][/U][/B] processor which is actually [B][U][I]worth[/I][/U][/B] your money and get good cooling so you can overclock.
In short, just don't.
The computer itself was only 400 dollars...but when i buy the graphics card and power supply it adds up to 750...it sucks now because i dont think i could return it. :(
EDIT: I am going to return this computer on monday and i will build my own new one. Can you list down a bunch of good parts that i should get so i can have a computer that reaches its full potential and has AMAZING FPS on games like battlefield 3
Don't just spout out all your hopes and dreams for the computer, give us a budget, tell us how flexible it is. I assume you are willing to go up because you want "AMAZING FPS" and $750 doesn't scream that at us (maybe without caps lock on). If this is the case, then just add a case (seewhatididthere) to this: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1g4hd[/url] (except get this combo bundle: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1326986[/url])
Total Price: $868.95
If not, downgrade that to a 650 Ti Boost, and expect a [I]decent[/I] frame rate.
by decent..what do you mean...your decent could be diffrent from mine.
[editline]13th July 2013[/editline]
i found this awesome video that seems to have an amazing computer for only 500 dollars.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6olutcuXHc[/url]
tell me all the cons and pros about it
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41439241]by decent..what do you mean...your decent could be diffrent from mine.
[editline]13th July 2013[/editline]
i found this awesome video that seems to have an amazing computer for only 500 dollars.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6olutcuXHc[/url]
tell me all the cons and pros about it[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, did you just call an i3, 4 GB of RAM, a 650 Ti, and a 500 GB Blue Series awesome? No, it's not awesome. Not one of those parts is awesome (the 650 Ti is ok, but I recommend the 650 Ti Boost). It's worth $500 sure, but it is not [I]awesome.[/I]
When I say decent, I mean your frame rate will [I]probably[/I] at least exceed your monitors refresh rate (assuming 60 Hz) if you lower the settings enough even at 1080p on [I]most[/I] games. You can look up benchmarks if you want.
Well i mean... im going to upgrade the memory and the processor is not that important so this computer looks pretty nice if i say so myself... if it can play crysis 3 on ultra 1080p it is an amazing computer to me.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41448221]Well i mean... im going to upgrade the memory and the processor is not that important so this computer looks pretty nice if i say so myself... if it can play crysis 3 on ultra 1080p it is an amazing computer to me.[/QUOTE]
yeah you can't play crysis 3 on ultra with that
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;41448237]yeah you can't play crysis 3 on ultra with that[/QUOTE]
Not with a positive frame rate that is.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41448221]the processor is not that important[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's only the the center of the goddamn computer.
A) Don't forget you have to use that computer for more than just gaming.
B) Yes, games are more partial to the graphics card and thusly a better graphics card is more important than a better processor. This does not mean processors are unimportant. That i3 will bottleneck your computer's performance, and you will suffer for it.
ive seen gameplay of this exact computer and it runs smoothly so it seems good so ya.
i took your advice man and so this is the final product...tell me if it will be compattible and work good.
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX650Ti Boost 2GB GDDR5 192bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card
Processor: Intel Core-i5 3350P Quad-Core Processor 3.1 Ghz 6 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i53350P
Hard Drive:
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX
Motherboard: MSI LGA1155/Intel B75/DDR3/SATA3 USB 3.0/A&GbE/MicroATX Motherboard B75MA-P45
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Core i3, i5, i7 and Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX600)
Case: NZXT Technologies SOURCE 220 CA-SO220-01 Matt Steel Mesh Front Mid Tower Case with USB 3.0
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41452753]i took your advice man and so this is the final product...tell me if it will be compattible and work good.
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX650Ti Boost 2GB GDDR5 192bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card
Processor: Intel Core-i5 3350P Quad-Core Processor 3.1 Ghz 6 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i53350P
Hard Drive:
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX
Motherboard: MSI LGA1155/Intel B75/DDR3/SATA3 USB 3.0/A&GbE/MicroATX Motherboard B75MA-P45
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Core i3, i5, i7 and Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX600)
Case: NZXT Technologies SOURCE 220 CA-SO220-01 Matt Steel Mesh Front Mid Tower Case with USB 3.0[/QUOTE]
-GPU is ok, Not too great but OK.
-CPU is ok. (beware that this one does not allow for overclocking.)
-Good mobo, just try and get a normal ATX sized one. Micro atx lacks features and can have crosstalk issues.
-RAM: Good.
-PSU: 430-500 watts should be enough. Good brand tough.
I recommend this: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130651[/url] for the motherboard. You might find a better deal though (I was mostly only looking at MSI motherboards really). You could also go Haswell which would be a bit more expensive for a bit more performance. Unfortunately it seems there's no P models (in other words they all have integrated graphics inflating their prices) at least not for individual retail sale. The equivalent of that processor is the i5-4430 (no P model, at least not on newegg). You would also have to get a Haswell motherboard which would be more expensive.
So instead of the one you linked me, i HAVE to get a Haswell motherboard. If i get this are you 100% sure everything will work good :D. And what kind of games with what kind of settings could i play this game with...can i play most games in the future with ultra settings.
if so that would be pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41458047]So instead of the one you linked me, i HAVE to get a Haswell motherboard. If i get this are you 100% sure everything will work good :D. And what kind of games with what kind of settings could i play this game with...can i play most games in the future with ultra settings.
if so that would be pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
Yes you have to get a haswell motherboard with a haswell processor, and yes I'm sure that a haswell processor will work with a haswell motherboard. No, as far as I'm aware you can't play any games in the future or the past only the present. On a serious note, with this build you should be able to play any modern or near-future games on any settings. Whether you will have a decent frame rate is another matter, and in the most graphic intensive games (especially near-future games) will not give you a frame rate of 60. A smooth frame rate, however, is up to the user to define. In my 3 year old laptop, I could easily play Just Cause 2 with 20 FPS and be fine with it. Some people on the other hand refuse to play anything below 30 or even 60 FPS. The 650 Ti Boost is a great choice, especially for value, but it is not a high end card.
can you link me a good haswell processor that does not reach over 180. Also why would i need Haswell items.
[QUOTE=flayne;41409071]Things wrong with this computer by part:
Motherboard
MicroATX form factor causes problems.
Ugly as shit.
Only supports gen 2 PCIe (that video card won't run to its full potential)
Only 2 memory sockets, max 16 GB.
Generation old chipset.
Manufactured by Foxconn.
Only USB 3 is internal connectors, and I don't see any on that case so you likely won't have any at all.[/QUOTE]
Not trying to vindicate a prebuilt but:
1) There is nothing inherently wrong with using a MicroATX motherboard if you don't need 6 or 7 PCIe/AGP/PCI-X/PCI/ISA/etc. slots. They can stuff the same number of USB and SATA connectors on a MicroATX board as a full sized ATX or XL-ATX board.
2) No complaints here, it is ugly. Piano black on anything computer related generally doesn't work.
3) There's nothing wrong with PCIe 2.0. Most video cards still can't saturate the bandwidth of a x16 width 1.x slot (bar the dual GPU cards like the GTX690, HD5970, HD6990, HD7990, etc.)
4) Rarely is there a use for 16 GB of RAM in a desktop system, unless you're heavy into content creation (he likely isn't.)
5) No complaint.
6) While I don't like to support companies using slave labor to manufacture products, Foxconn makes some really good motherboards. I've had a few of their AMD boards and despite being on the low range (sub $60 boards) the build quality was good and I never had any problems with the BIOS or drivers. Their core unlocker software was also really nice.
7) USB 3.0 is nothing to write home about. It's still an emerging technology with a plethora of issues. Devises designed specifically for USB 3.0 are on the sparse side still, expensive and often buggy. There are more than a few USB 3.0 flash drives that are a pain in the ass to get working, aren't supported on all platforms and don't live up to their rated speeds.
tl;dr, just because USB 3.0 is faster and newer, doesn't make it better than USB 2.0. And while it is a good idea to have it, you can still live without it for quite awhile.
You want me to change a lot it seems flay. Can you please list down a bunch of links to parts that will all be compatible with each other, Make sure everthing does not go above 750 dollars becausse thats my price range.
[editline]14th July 2013[/editline]
ok so i found another video for a 750 dollar gaming computer that is now 500 dollars due to sales and price changes. It has a
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_dGts6TeQ[/url]
Intel Core i5-3470 Processor
MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard
XFX Radeon HD 7870 Graphics Card (Or a EVGA Geforce 650 Ti boost 2 GB DDR5 )
8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM
1TB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive
NZXT Source 220 Case
and a 500W Corsair CX500 Power Supply
I admire how it is a i5 and includes a really good graphics card so i hope this seems to work fine and get your attention. Please tell me the pros and cons of this one please.
Caviar Black? i don't see the need for it, blue preforms well enough save $20
So the final cost ends up to be 831 dollars with shipping and tax. Seem good enough???
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41465791]So the final cost ends up to be 831 dollars with shipping and tax. Seem good enough???[/QUOTE]
Are you using the parts you previously listed, or are you using that $750 build. Also what tax are you paying? Do you have to pay sales tax on those parts ordered online?
Also I wasn't asking you to change to Haswell. It might not be worth it. I was just telling you that you [I]could[/I].
i listed the parts in my previous comment before the my other one. and the shipping and tax i already added up. which was 831 dollars. above yupers comment...btw what is better. An AMD Radeon 7870 HD 2 GB DDR5 or a EVGA Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2 GB DDR5
If you need some help still, check out this website : [url]http://www.logicalincrements.com/[/url]
Take what they suggest and cheapen up on parts you don't and do want. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41472539]i listed the parts in my previous comment before the my other one. and the shipping and tax i already added up. which was 831 dollars. above yupers comment...btw what is better. An AMD Radeon 7870 HD 2 GB DDR5 or a EVGA Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2 GB DDR5[/QUOTE]
The 7870 is a better graphics card than the 650 Ti. I was asking if you had to pay sales tax for the parts because you usually don't have to unless you live in certain states. Either way, like yupper said get the WD Blue series (7200 RPM, 64 MB cache, 1TB) and save some money, and like I said look into Haswell. It [I]might[/I] be better, but it might not. I'm just asking you to consider your options. In fact I would like someone else's opinion on this.
So would everything be compattible or not though... Yes Or No.
Why not just go ATI/AMD they deliver a good quality GPU and also decent CPU i swear its all about Nvidia and Intel these days i'm sure an AMD will not let you down and do the job correctly
[QUOTE=tomekpra12;41479240]Why not just go ATI/AMD they deliver a good quality GPU and also decent CPU i swear its all about Nvidia and Intel these days i'm sure an AMD will not let you down and do the job correctly[/QUOTE]
AMD video cards are fine (there is no such thing as ATI anymore). AMD processors are not. They just don't deliver on performance. Even i3 processors can beat all but the highest end AMD processors (which usually can be beat by the equivalently priced Haswell i5 processors). They are just flat out not designed for gaming. Of course, this doesn't mean they can't improve in the future, but right now they don't have a place in gaming builds.
Yes everything would be compatible. Why would I be suggesting Haswell if it were not compatible?
Thats good. Ill make sure to order it today.
[QUOTE=Skrill Cosby;41485147]Thats good. Ill make sure to order it today.[/QUOTE]
What parts list are you even ordering? There have been suggestions made in this forum that you haven't even addressed. Not to mention you slapped a second parts list down on this thread and then seemingly just completely ignored it. Seriously, don't rush into ordering this. Lay the final parts down in a post, and be sure to use pcpartpicker, so you don't overpay by using certain vendors.
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