• Texas: Police shut down 'illegally run' lemonade stand business run by two girls, aged 8 & 7 for not
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[quote]Two young sisters with an "entrepreneurial spirit" set up a lemonade stand in Overton, Texas, to raise money for their dad's Father's day gift, their mom said. But Andria and Zoey Green's business closed abruptly Monday after police came by to tell them their stand was illegal without a city Peddler's Permit, according to Overton Police Department Chief Clyde Carter. "It's illegal to sell lemonade without a permit," Carter told ABC News today. "But we didn't tell them to shut down, we just asked them to get a permit." The girls' mother, Sandi Evans, said they went to try to get a Peddler's Permit at City Hall, but found out they'd have to get licensed by the Rusk County Health Department before being allowed a Peddler's Permit. The Rusk County Health Department did not immediately respond to ABC News' request for additional information including specific details about the process for getting a permit to sell lemonade. "Once we found out everything we would have to go through, we just decided to stop technically selling the lemonade," Evans told ABC News today. "The girls are still going to have the stand, but they're just going to ask for donations instead." Andria, 8, and Zoey, 7, are going to open up stand again Saturday, and a lot of locals and even people outside the community are planning on coming to support them, she added. Chief Carter told ABC News that asking for donations for lemonade isn't illegal and isn't a problem.[/quote] [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-kids-told-illegal-sell-lemonade-permit/story?id=31667943[/url]
It's posted today, but I swear I've heard this same exact story before.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;47934145]It's posted today, but I swear I've heard this same exact story before.[/QUOTE] It happens a lot. Can't sell lemonade without paying $$$$ for a permit.
could they just ask for a minimum donation of .50 cents and they get a free cup of lemonade?
for the love of fuck IT'S A FUCKING LEMONADE STAND WHY DO THEY NEED A PERMIT
the people who go out of their way to report this to the cops or come down on kids for "permitting issues" are really lame
sometimes i really feel like america is a great big joke of a country like we follow things down to the letter when they shouldn't(zero tolerance policy i'm looking at you) and bend it when we see fit(particularly when the beneficiary has money)
There's nothing the police can do. It's an illegal store with no health regulations. On the bright side: [quote]After news stations covered the story, many businesses have showed support for the girls in the form of donations and freebies, their mom said. "We received free passes to Splash Kingdom, where the girls wanted to take their dad for Father's Day," Evans said. "We got them from the owners of the theme park and then again from a radio station." The girls have also collected $200 in donations after they temporarily closed up shop, Evans added. "We do have so many positives coming out of this, and since I don't feel right keeping the money now that they got their dad's gift for free, we're going to give away the extra tickets and set up scholarships with the donations they've collected," she said. "We're going to give the scholarship to a local graduating high school senior majoring in business management."[/quote]
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;47934180]for the love of fuck IT'S A FUCKING LEMONADE STAND WHY DO THEY NEED A PERMIT[/QUOTE] [quote]Chief Carter told ABC News that asking for donations for lemonade isn't illegal and isn't a problem.[/quote] A [I]donation[/I] for lemonade is legal, actually selling it is not. The same reason you cant go selling hamburgers on the corner without a health department license.
popo should just turn a blind eye for dat sweet lemonade who doesnt like lemonade srs
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47934292]A [I]donation[/I] for lemonade is legal, actually selling it is not. The same reason you cant go selling hamburgers on the corner without a health department license.[/QUOTE] so you could ask for a donation to the "pay me" cause as a prerequisite for a cup of lemonade? or do you have to offer the lemonade for free and just ask them to donate?
This happens a lot and it's really stupid.
Yet collecting a donation in exchange for lemonade is still essentially selling lemonade. I find it ridiculous how the law works sometimes. Don't they have better things to do than to send police to a neighborhood lemonade stand?
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;47934180]for the love of fuck IT'S A FUCKING LEMONADE STAND WHY DO THEY NEED A PERMIT[/QUOTE] Money. it's the USA. Everything you can do, someone's going to want money from it in some way. You think if driver's licenses ceased to exist, anything would change? Nope. But every time someone gets one or gets it renewed, or in the case of Florida if you're 5 days late on your required car insurance they suspend it immediately, and then require you to pay $500 to reinstate it, the state gets money. So, make it illegal to do something unless you pay money for a permit/license = money If you want to set up a lemonade stand you price it like so: Free Lemonade. Donations welcome The sad part about this is some flake bitch neighbor called the police on these girls, and then 2 rookie dickwagon cops who don't know what the fuck officer discretion is forced them to shut it
When people say they hate big government, it's this stuff they talk about.
[QUOTE=Reshy;47934496]When people say they hate big government, it's this stuff they talk about.[/QUOTE] This isn't big government, this is city government.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;47934180]for the love of fuck IT'S A FUCKING LEMONADE STAND WHY DO THEY NEED A PERMIT[/QUOTE] it's a requirement by the counties health department, as stupid as it is. the lemonade stand was allowed to stay, as long as they took donations instead of actually selling the lemonade. glad they got their father's Father's Day gift in the end, would've felt worse for them if they couldn't even get that.
I don't really see why people should be allowed to sell stuff that is to be consumed by other people without some level of inspection going on? Like, kids aren't known for their cleanliness, who knows what kind of shit could end up in that lemonade. Like, I get that it's sad that kids can't just open up a lemonade stand on the side of the road, but I think people's health comes first.
[QUOTE=Reshy;47934496]When people say they hate big government, it's this stuff they talk about.[/QUOTE] It seems this only happens in the USA though. Lots of countries have a "big government." [editline]11th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;47934551]I don't really see why people should be allowed to sell stuff that is to be consumed by other people without some level of inspection going on? Like, kids aren't known for their cleanliness, who knows what kind of shit could end up in that lemonade. Like, I get that it's sad that kids can't just open up a lemonade stand on the side of the road, but I think people's health comes first.[/QUOTE] are you for real, do you go to high school bake sales and scream about failing to adhere to government regulations?
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;47934551]I don't really see why people should be allowed to sell stuff that is to be consumed by other people without some level of inspection going on? Like, kids aren't known for their cleanliness, who knows what kind of shit could end up in that lemonade. Like, I get that it's sad that kids can't just open up a lemonade stand on the side of the road, but I think people's health comes first.[/QUOTE] It would be cool if this story was about someone selling steaks, cakes, and soup on the corner and you made this post because then I'd agree with you. Theres a lot that can go wrong with a lot of food. Kids making lemonade... not so much. I'll take my chances.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;47934551]I don't really see why people should be allowed to sell stuff that is to be consumed by other people without some level of inspection going on? Like, kids aren't known for their cleanliness, who knows what kind of shit could end up in that lemonade. Like, I get that it's sad that kids can't just open up a lemonade stand on the side of the road, but I think people's health comes first.[/QUOTE] it's just kids selling lemonade, this isn't some form of restaurant in the middle of the sidewalk.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;47934558]It seems this only happens in the USA though. Lots of countries have a "big government." [editline]11th June 2015[/editline] are you for real, do you go to high school bake sales and scream about failing to adhere to government regulations?[/QUOTE] I know for a fact that any high school fundraiser selling food has to adhere to government regulations, so your point is moot.
[QUOTE=Apache249;47934641]I know for a fact that any high school fundraiser selling food has to adhere to government regulations, so your point is moot.[/QUOTE] Mine never did, there were literally zero regulations for us. Did your kitchen have an official inspect it before you were allowed to sell food? Obviously the rules are different from place to place and between the sizes of business.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47934520]This isn't big government, this is city government.[/QUOTE] You can still have big city government.
[QUOTE=sgman91;47934650]You can still have big city government.[/QUOTE] In the United States the term "Big Government" is almost exclusively for the Federal Government. I feel bad for the girls and the cops, both have to suffer because of the policies of the city.
[QUOTE=Explosions;47934286]There's nothing the police can do. It's an illegal store with no health regulations.[/QUOTE] No it's not, it's two little girls selling cheap, store bought lemonade. There's no reason to be a pharisee about it.
late as fuck lol, this should of been known by now. :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47934799]No it's not, it's two little girls selling cheap, store bought lemonade. There's no reason to be a pharisee about it.[/QUOTE] Yes, it is an illegal establishment SELLING goods. Technically, they would also have to pay taxes on any earnings (because yay for taxing things!). It's the same reason Gmod communities don't "sell" VIP or perks, and insted give them as a gift for donation. And if you want to get even more technical, by selling something consumable, they are bound by all DOH regulations. Free gifts for donations aren't regulated in these ways. Honestly, people just need to start setting up donation stands instead of lemonade stands...
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47934799]No it's not, it's two little girls selling cheap, store bought lemonade. There's no reason to be a pharisee about it.[/QUOTE] That's not what the law says and there's nothing to cops can do about it. Police officers can't arbitrarily decide what laws they are and aren't going to follow because "aw that situation is too darn cute." Whether or not the law should be changed is an entirely separate matter, but saying "da popo shouldn't persecute those poor girls!" is childish and ignorant.
For fucks sakes... really? Normally I'd say they should pass legislation which specifically excludes lemonade stands being operated by minors from regulation, but this government would probably find a way to fuck that up even. It will start with the addition of unnecessary amendments which somehow end up banning the sale of all lemonade. Only lemonade made before 2015 will be grandfathered in and must be registered with the FDA to become transferable for sale to non-government entities or individuals, and each transferal will require the purchase of a $500 tax stamp. It will be called "The Lemonade Freedom Protections Act"
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