Obama launches blistering attack on 'crazy' GOP: "This is the nominee you get" - Polidicks

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/13/in-ohio-obama-blasts-gop-theyve-been-feeding-their-base-all-kinds-of-crazy-for-years/[/url] [quote]While Obama aimed a few of his swipes at Trump, saying he was “caught on tape saying things that no decent person would even think, much less say, much less brag about, much less act on,” he directed most of his criticism toward GOP officials who have only recently disavowed their party’s presidential nominee. Frequently, he referred indirectly to Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), who is running for reelection and holds a significant lead over former governor Ted Strickland (D). “The problem is not that all Republicans think the way this guy does. The problem is that they’ve been riding this tiger for a long time,” the president said, referring to those who questioned whether he was born in the United States, those who called him “the antichrist” and other conspiracy theories. “They’ve been feeding their base all kinds of crazy for years, primarily for political expedience.” “People like Ted’s opponent, they just stood by while this happened,” Obama said, referring to Portman, adding that as in “so many” other situations, “Trump didn’t build the building himself, he just slapped his name on it.” “The problem is this is in the swamp of crazy that has been fed over and over and over again,” the president said, to applause. “This is the nominee you get.” ... “You’re not even consistent anymore. You claim the mantle of the party of family values and this is the guy you nominate? And stand by and endorse and campaign with? Until finally at the 11th hour you withdraw your nomination? You don’t get credit for that,” he said. “You’re the party that’s tough on foreign policy and opposes Russia, then you nominate Trump, whose role model is Vladimir Putin, the former head of the KGB? I’m sorry, what happened?”[/quote] Video highlights in the article

If there is one upside to this election, it's the meltdown of the GOP. Hopefully, a more sane GOP manages to arise out of this.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51200591]If there is one upside to this election, it's the meltdown of the GOP. Hopefully, a more sane GOP manages to arise out of this.[/QUOTE] Yeah, hopefully. I remember when we used to think Sarah Palin was bad.

Repeal the 22nd amendment

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51200591]If there is one upside to this election, it's the meltdown of the GOP. Hopefully, a more sane GOP manages to arise out of this.[/QUOTE] if early numbers are any indication, even while most people arent normally racist, sexist or biggotted, they have been conditioned to have violent, visceral reactions to so called liberal trigger words and ideas. the ideological dogma is so thick that people acknowledge trump is a horrible person but still have to believe that somehow he will not be that horrible person because the alternative is so fucking horrible to them that they cant even concieve that clinton or any democrat is not some baby mashing troop murdering psychopath

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51200591]If there is one upside to this election, it's the meltdown of the GOP. Hopefully, a more sane GOP manages to arise out of this.[/QUOTE] hopefully the GOP melts apart, the democrats become seen as the new right (as they really are in comparison to the rest of the world), and a new party forms left of the democrats. we've given the right their ride of fun, it's time we stopped that though. they've ripped apart this country enough.

The GOP is so entrenched at the state level that I don't think they're going anywhere. But less people will vote for them and as a consequence the next election might be even nutjobbier

The GOP is too big for it to be actually usurped by another party, not unless things change fast in the next decade or two. They may have shifted labels but it's been around for 150 years. If they aren't even more radical in 4 years, it'll be the same group with (hopefully) moderates at the helm.

It's interesting how involved the Obama has been in the election thus far. I get that he really wants that third term for the party, but it just comes off as inappropriate and weird to have him stump so hard for a former opponent. You'd think he'd rather be working his ass off the last few months of his presidency since he doesn't have a whole lot to lose.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51200681]It's interesting how involved the Obama has been in the election thus far. I get that he really wants that third term for the party, but it just comes off as inappropriate and weird to have him stump so hard for a former opponent. You'd think he'd rather be working his ass off the last few months of his presidency since he doesn't have any political capital to waste.[/QUOTE] This is what presidents have always done Obama's just railing on Trump extra hard because he's extra terrible and Trump supporters are going to be extra sensitive to that and extra likely to call out conspiracy or impropriety or whatever.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51200681]It's interesting how involved the Obama has been in the election thus far. I get that he really wants that third term for the party, but it just comes off as inappropriate and weird to have him stump so hard for a former opponent. You'd think he'd rather be working his ass off the last few months of his presidency since he doesn't have a whole lot to lose.[/QUOTE] This is completely normal, especially considering a piece of shit like Trump is the opposing party's offering.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51200638]The GOP is too big for it to be actually usurped by another party, not unless things change fast in the next decade or two. They may have shifted labels but it's been around for 150 years. If they aren't even more radical in 4 years, it'll be the same group with (hopefully) moderates at the helm.[/QUOTE] to be fair, the whigs pretty much died from the very same deep fractures in demographics the republicans are facing right now

[QUOTE=Chonch;51200681]You'd think he'd rather be working his ass off the last few months of his presidency since he doesn't have a whole lot to lose.[/QUOTE] There's also not a lot he can do if Congress just doesn't feel like it. We've only got 8 out of the traditional 9 justices on the Supreme Court because Obama picked a guy without consulting the senate and, while the guy he picked is perfectly qualified, they've got a stick so far up their ass they're refusing to even see him. People getting buttmad is standing in the way of a fully functioning government.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51200681]It's interesting how involved the Obama has been in the election thus far. I get that he really wants that third term for the party, but it just comes off as inappropriate and weird to have him stump so hard for a former opponent. You'd think he'd rather be working his ass off the last few months of his presidency since he doesn't have a whole lot to lose.[/QUOTE] it's pretty unprecedented for a nominee to be as atrocious as trump

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51200594]Yeah, hopefully. I remember when we used to think Sarah Palin was bad.[/QUOTE] Personally I think her and her brand of dumb was the start of this nonsense. She made being flat out stupid and wrong be seen as popular and the stupid,grifter politicians saw it as a good way to make a dime and welp here we are.

I can't help but cringe at everyone saying that republicans tore this country apart. Capitalism and low-governmental influence was the reason America strived. The GOP isn't going to just "disappear," resulting in new "democratic" GOP. Let's be real here

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51200934]I can't help but cringe at everyone saying that republicans tore this country apart. Capitalism and low-governmental influence was the reason America strived. The GOP isn't going to just "disappear" and have a completely GOP formed. Let's be real here[/QUOTE] They're either going to do the smart thing and kick out the nutbag higher ups that brought them to Trump or they're going to embrace this nonsense and continue to crash and burn. They got told after the 2012 election what they needed to do and what did they do? They embraced the crazy,got midterm gains and got this turd of a presidential nominee. So short term gains,long term loses.

[QUOTE=Kindashort;51200950]They're either going to do the smart thing and kick out the nutbag higher ups that brought them to Trump or they're going to embrace this nonsense and continue to crash and burn. They got told after the 2012 election what they needed to do and what did they do? They embraced the crazy,got midterm gains and got this turd of a presidential nominee. So short term gains,long term loses.[/QUOTE] No "higher ups" told them to do jack shit. The media SOLELY covered trump and no one else, resulting in immense popularity for him.

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51200934]I can't help but cringe at everyone saying that republicans tore this country apart. Capitalism and low-governmental influence was the reason America strived. The GOP isn't going to just "disappear," resulting in new "democratic" GOP. Let's be real here[/QUOTE] Low-governmental interference/influence in capitalism is how people were being treated as wage slaves and had no workers rights. Do you want to go back to that terrible era where the extremely wealthy exploited the hell out of workers and didn't give a single shit about their lives?

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51200957]No "higher ups" told them to do jack shit. The media SOLELY covered trump and no one else, resulting in immense popularity for him.[/QUOTE] Did you not read the rest of my post? In 2012 after Romney lost,they examined why they lost and they got told to ditch the crazy. It was called the Growth and Opportunity Project Report. It talked about how the GOP needed to do better outreach to minorities and women,move away from extreme positions on lbgt people and all sorts of common sense things. The GOP leaders obviously didn't fucking listen,embraced the idiot branch and here we are with this moron as the Republican nominee. And they covered him because he kept saying such stupid shit and the RNC didn't shut his ass down hard enough. They had plenty of time to nip that problem in the bud and present stronger opponents against him,they could've done the same digging that's going on now and found this shit that's coming out now so why didn't they?

[QUOTE=joshuadim;51201001]Low-governmental interference/influence in capitalism is how people were being treated as wage slaves and had no workers rights. Do you want to go back to that terrible era where the extremely wealthy exploited the hell out of workers and didn't give a single shit about their lives?[/QUOTE] i mean, it's sort of already like that. especially if you work for minimum wage

Actually I think they tried to listen, but they put forth too many candidates at once. Plus They gave up fighting in general judging by how they keep trying to be democrats without actually being democrats.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51201032]i mean, it's sort of already like that. especially if you work for minimum wage[/QUOTE] At least unions exist and there are protections for workers, unlike during the Gilded Age.

fun fact: #repealthe19th really is trending on twitter.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;51201047]fun fact: #repealthe19th really is trending on twitter.[/QUOTE] was hoping #repealthe22nd would be a thing

[QUOTE=Map in a box;51201047]fun fact: #repealthe19th really is trending on twitter.[/QUOTE] And every single person tweeting that and earnestly meaning it when they tweet it can go eat shit. People throwing a tantrum and wanting to take my right to vote just cause their shitty candidate is doing poorly among women cause he's an asshole is kinda funny in a way but in another way completely insane.

[QUOTE=Map in a box;51201047]fun fact: #repealthe19th really is trending on twitter.[/QUOTE] Disgusting. GOP is going to have to make some huge changes after this to win back a competitive share of female and minority voters. This election has done potentially irreparable damage to a party brand that was already struggling a!omg those demographics.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51201073]Disgusting. GOP is going to have to make some huge changes after this to win back a competitive share of female and minority voters. This election has done potentially irreparable damage to a party brand that was already struggling a!omg those demographics.[/QUOTE] Good luck to them ever getting any women currently under 35 and not very conservatively christian to vote for them again. Hell I think they've even lost the damn Mormons at this point. The Mormons!

[QUOTE=Map in a box;51201047]fun fact: #repealthe19th really is trending on twitter.[/QUOTE] Surprised the are not going after the 15th amendment too. While they are at it, ban college educated white men from voting too. Democracy in action. :eng101s:

[QUOTE=Kindashort;51201086]Good luck to them ever getting any women currently under 35 and not very conservatively christian to vote for them again. Hell I think they've even lost the damn Mormons at this point. The Mormons![/QUOTE] Right? That's what Im saying. Some massive compromises to policy and rhetoric are going to have to be made. For the next Republican presidential candidate to have any realistic chance in the general election, he or she will have to be MUCH more moderate on the social issues, if not openly left-leaning. Economic conservativism isn't going anywhere, but they may finally have to give up the fight against abortion, birth control, Hardline immigration policies, and gay rights, at the very least.