Arizona County Lists Wrong Date For Election Day In Spanish Translation Of Document - Polidicks

[quote]As Election Day approaches, reports of problems and errors complicating voters' ability to cast a ballot typically increase. The latest example? Officials in Maricopa County, Ariz., mistakenly listed the general election date as Nov. 8, not Nov. 6, in the Spanish translation of an "official government document," [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/arizona-elections-department-flubs-election-date/"]according to[/URL] ABC News. The document was attached to updated voter registration cards that voters had requested. “It’s an honest mistake. Between the time the voter [who caught the mistake] came in to our front counter to get her card and we were notified of the error, the mistake had been corrected,” Yvonne Reed, spokesperson for the Maricopa County Department of Elections, [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/arizona-elections-department-flubs-election-date/"]told[/URL] ABC News. Reed said the document with the mistake was sent to fewer than 50 people. The error comes as other states' voter-identification laws have been challenged in court by Democrats who say conservative state legislatures are trying to tamp down voter turnout. In Philadelphia, a [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/15/1010051/pennsylvania-ads-still-suggest-id-required-to-vote/"]billboard[/URL] put up by the state displays the slogan "Si Quieres Votar Muéstrala," which means "if you want to vote, show it." The billboard shows a woman showing her driver's license, [URL="http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20121014/LOCAL08/310149946/1044/LOCAL08"]according to Bloomberg News.[/URL] But a court ruling in early October [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/pennsylvania-voter-id-ruling_n_1919187.html"]ordered[/URL] Pennsylvania election officials to allow voters without government-issued photo ID to vote. Also recently, [URL="http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2012/10/virginia-gop-caught-destroying-voter-registration-forms.html"]a store manager in Harrisonburg, Va.,[/URL] found eight completed voter registration forms in a bag of trash, [URL="http://www.nbc29.com/story/19836183/investigation-launched-over-trashed-voter-registration-forms"]according to[/URL] NBC29. "We don't know what the motive was to throw these away," Rockingham County Voter Registrar Doug Geib [URL="http://www.nbc29.com/story/19836183/investigation-launched-over-trashed-voter-registration-forms"]told[/URL] the local NBC station. "But I don't think it was based on that … because there's no way the people collecting the applications would know what party, what candidate these people are going to vote for." HuffPost's Dan Froomkin [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/voter-suppression-tricksters_n_1970272.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003"]reported[/URL] on Tuesday that some elderly, African-American and Spanish-speaking voters in Florida and Virginia have received phone calls aimed at deceiving them or intimidating them into not voting on Election Day. The Virginia State Board of Elections [URL="http://www.pwcgov.org/Documents/RumorBuster.pdf"]has warned[/URL] residents that "some Virginia voters, particularly older Virginians, received phone calls from unidentified individuals informing voters that they can vote over the phone. This information is false." To fight back against the efforts of conservative group True the Vote, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/05/969971/tea-party-voter-suppression-group-under-investigation-for-possible-criminal-conspiracy/"]launched[/URL] an inquiry into whether the group is illegally trying to remove thousands of voters from the registration rolls. "At some point, an effort to challenge voter registrations by the thousands without any legitimate basis may be evidence of illegal voter suppression," Cummings wrote in a letter to True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht in early October, [URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-voting-rights-tea-party-20121004,0,3351653.story"]according to[/URL] the Los Angeles Times. "If these efforts are intentional, politically motivated and widespread across multiple states, they could amount to a criminal conspiracy to deny legitimate voters their constitutional rights." [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/arizona-county-wrong-date-election-day_n_1974122.html[/URL] [/quote] "Honest mistake" or was somebody paid off? Either way, at least it was caught before November.

Someone was paid off, methinks.

Maybe if it was a 7, as that's only one key over. . .

yea, this is the work of Mitt Romney

The fact that this isn't the first incident (not even the first of it's kind), and most likely won't be the last, is pretty scary.

obv. secret plot

Sounds like somebody is terrified of the new Spanish-speaking voters.

Not trying to come off like a dick, but any one who thinks this was on purpose is kind of dumb. You really think they would be stupid enough to: a) Think that one single card of misinformation will stop most, if any, Spanish speaking immigrants from voting? and b) Put forth the effort and risk of a misinformation campaign with a date that makes it entirely possible for the Spanish speaking voters to realize the mistake and wait the 2 days to actually vote? Come on.

[QUOTE=Mousy Sloth;38079760]Not trying to come off like a dick, but any one who thinks this was on purpose is kind of dumb. You really think they would be stupid enough to: a) Think that one single act, let alone just a single card, of misinformation will stop most, if any, Spanish speaking immigrants from voting? and b) Put forth the effort and risk of a misinformation campaign with a date that makes it entirely possible for the Spanish speaking voters to realize the mistake and wait the 2 days to actually vote? Come on.[/QUOTE] Most voter fraud is committed on a small scale. It only sometimes takes a couple dozen votes to sway an election in a district. I'm not saying it is voter fraud, but the scope of the incident doesn't actually debunk the idea.

I'm kind of leaning towards fraud for a number of reasons. A. Typos are generally double-triple checked prior to election B. The election could not possibly be November 8th because the election is always held on the first Tuesday of the month. C. Hispanics are being undervalued in preliminary polls, a revised poll showed hispanics at least double the chances of Obama winning the state, the numbers are still not in his favor, but they could rock the vote. D. Arizona's local central government since the absence of Napolitano is a mockery of what it used to be in terms of its officials E. Republicans are well known for plots to restrict minority voting and Arizona Republicans are right there with the rest of the country It's not major and their probably will never be any proof of any fraud, but the circumstances are just not in favor of whoever made the typo.

As someone who lives in southern AZ, I can't see why they'd do this. Almost every hispanic person I know has said they're voting for Romney. Either cause Obama is black or cause they "saw a youtube video about how he's the antichrist"

[QUOTE=rapperkid04;38080202]As someone who lives in southern AZ, I can't see why they'd do this. Almost every hispanic person I know has said they're voting for Romney. Either cause Obama is black or cause they "saw a youtube video about how he's the antichrist"[/QUOTE] Arizona would rather have Hispanics not vote than vote than anything, this is the same state that PASSED 1070

[QUOTE=EragonRulez;38079281]Maybe if it was a 7, as that's only one key over. . .[/QUOTE] 6 and 8 look pretty similar when you're making a quick scan of the words and expecting to see one or the other. If anything I'd find it more odd if it were 7, since a 7 is very distinctly different from 6.

[QUOTE=Evilan;38080013]I'm kind of leaning towards fraud for a number of reasons. A. Typos are generally double-triple checked prior to election B. The election could not possibly be November 8th because the election is always held on the first Tuesday of the month. C. Hispanics are being undervalued in preliminary polls, a revised poll showed hispanics at least double the chances of Obama winning the state, the numbers are still not in his favor, but they could rock the vote. D. Arizona's local central government since the absence of Napolitano is a mockery of what it used to be in terms of its officials E. Republicans are well known for plots to restrict minority voting and Arizona Republicans are right there with the rest of the country It's not major and their probably will never be any proof of any fraud, but the circumstances are just not in favor of whoever made the typo.[/QUOTE] But like someone said, why would they make it late in the wrong direction? If it was real fraud you would have the date listed as the 10th, so they show up and its too late. If they show up early, people will just say, "Come back in 2 days..." So it's hard to believe it is fraud since it wouldn't really stop people from voting.

"Oh, what an unfortunate accident. We will definitely get someone to work on that right away...."

[QUOTE=Squad;38080575]But like someone said, why would they make it late in the wrong direction? If it was real fraud you would have the date listed as the 10th, so they show up and its too late. If they show up early, people will just say, "Come back in 2 days..." So it's hard to believe it is fraud since it wouldn't really stop people from voting.[/QUOTE] The election date is November 6th. The mistake was that the election day was November 8th which is actually 2 days after the real election thereby nullifying votes that may have otherwise been counted. If it was the reverse the situation might be different.

[QUOTE=rapperkid04;38080202]As someone who lives in southern AZ, I can't see why they'd do this. Almost every hispanic person I know has said they're voting for Romney. Either cause Obama is black or cause they "saw a youtube video about how he's the antichrist"[/QUOTE] This probably has nothing to do with Obama vs. Romney. Assuming this is actual voter fraud, it is surely trying to affect a local election. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] I mean why would Romney want to risk the election by fucking with a state that is surely his in the first place? When voter fraud is found it can sometimes invalidate a whole election, that's not a risk you take unless you are sure the fraud will help you and it won't go detected.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38079808]Most voter fraud is committed on a small scale. It only sometimes takes a couple dozen votes to sway an election in a district. I'm not saying it is voter fraud, but the scope of the incident doesn't actually debunk the idea.[/QUOTE] The sad thing is this shit is so commonplace it's really hard to tell if this was intentional or not. It's really not an improbable scenario in any sense of the word. Even if it actually is a legitimate screwup, nobody is in the wrong for just assuming it is attempted voter fraud. This is exactly the type of unproven suspicion that republicans have [B]earned[/B] over decades of participating in shady vote skewing of varying varieties. So it's not like they exactly deserve the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38081016] I mean why would Romney want to risk the election by fucking with a state that is surely his in the first place? When voter fraud is found it can sometimes invalidate a whole election, that's not a risk you take unless you are sure the fraud will help you and it won't go detected.[/QUOTE] Who said Romney was behind it? I've lived in Arizona for 24 years, and these past few years have been crazy in terms of qualifications for those who have been elected/uplifted into offices. It's almost surely someone who was working alone if it was even fraud at all, again it's just a lot of circumstantial evidence, nothing definite.

[QUOTE=Evilan;38081647]Who said Romney was behind it?[/QUOTE] I've re-read my previous post and I'm 100% sure that the word "Romney" was not in it.