• Another one down: Pakistan Taliban leader reported dead in US strike
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[release] (AP) ISLAMABAD — Intercepted militant radio communications indicate the leader of the Pakistani Taliban may have been killed in a recent U.S. drone strike, Pakistani intelligence officials said Sunday. A Taliban official denied that. The report coincided with sectarian violence — a bomb blast in eastern Pakistan that killed 14 people in a Shiite religious procession. The claim that the Pakistani Taliban chief was killed came from officials who said they intercepted a number of Taliban radio conversations. In about a half a dozen intercepts, the militants discussed whether their chief, Hakimullah Mehsud, was killed on Jan. 12 in the North Waziristan tribal area. Some militants confirmed Mehsud was dead, and one criticized others for talking about the issue over the radio. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters. Pakistani Taliban spokesman Asimullah Mehsud denied the group's leader was killed and said he was not in the area where the drone strike occurred. In early 2010, both Pakistani and American officials said they believed a missile strike had killed Hakimullah Mehsud along the border of North and South Waziristan. They were proved wrong when videos appeared showing him still alive. The Pakistani Taliban is linked to attacks against U.S. targets. They trained the Pakistani-American who tried to detonate a car bomb in New York City's Times Square in 2010 and is tied to a suicide bombing that killed seven CIA agents at an Afghan base in 2009. There was no claim of responsibility for Sunday's bombing that killed 14 people during a Shiite observance in Punjab province in the east — the latest of a series of sectarian attacks in volatile Pakistan. Hundreds of Pakistani Shiites gathered in the town of Khanpur in Punjab province for a traditional procession to mark the end of 40 days of mourning following the anniversary of the death of Imam Hussein, a revered seventh-century figure. The explosion went off as the mourners left a mosque, said District Police Chief Sohail Chatta. The bomb appeared to have been planted ahead of time in the path of the procession, he said. The Pakistani Taliban and other Sunni extremist groups have in the past claimed responsibility for the bombings of Shiite religious sites and ceremonies. Many Sunni extremists in Pakistan regard Shiites as heretics. The Taliban and other groups have carried out hundreds of bombings over the last five years that have killed thousands of Pakistani troops and civilians as part of a campaign to install a hard-line Islamist government. The attacks are so common that the country's interior minister in December actually thanked the Taliban for acting on what he said was a "request" not to stage attacks during the Shiite rituals of Ashoura that month. Punjab law minister Rana Sanaullah said police investigators were still examining the area of Sunday's bombing for clues. Security was provided for the procession, but it was breached, Sanaullah said. The continuing strikes by presumed religious extremists come during a political crisis that pits the Pakistani civilian government against the military, sparking rumors of an impending coup. Last week the military warned the government of possible "grievous consequences" ahead, and President Asif Ali Zardari took a one-day trip to Dubai that renewed speculation that he might flee the country. Analysts say the military may be looking for the Supreme Court to push out Zardari rather than risk an outright takeover. [/release] [URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501712_162-57359389/pakistan-taliban-leader-possibly-dead-in-us-strike/[/URL] Ain't going to stop the war on terror.
and where one dies, another 10 rush to fill his place
Good, kill them all.
It's a fucking war, so shit like this happens.
[QUOTE=Bobie;34226644]and where one dies, another 10 rush to fill his place[/QUOTE] Sounds like we need to [B]fly more drones[/B] [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] [quote]Many Sunni extremists in Pakistan regard Shiites as heretics.[/quote] sectarian violence golly I hate it
[QUOTE=Bobie;34226644]and where one dies, another 10 rush to fill his place[/QUOTE] Which is what I hate. You kill one bad guy, then another comes. Its like a factory producing Taliban Leaders. I hope I'm wrong about it and these new leaders are just lower ranked/less respected people in the Taliban taking over. Everyone wants them gone. For good.
[quote]Many Sunni extremists in Pakistan regard Shiites as heretics.[/quote] The Islamic world continues to be stuck in the middle ages.
this won't change anything
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;34227520]The Islamic world continues to be stuck in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because 7th day adventists don't think that the catholic pope is the Antichrist or anything religion is stuck in the middle ages
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;34226788]Good, kill them all.[/QUOTE] You sound just as bad as they do.
The war does not end when you kill a replaceable leader. To win against taliban you'd need to kill most if not all of them.
Whenever I hear of a drone strike I think of [img]http://images.wikia.com/gearsofwar/images/b/bf/HammerheadDrone.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34228202]The war does not end when you kill a replaceable leader. To win against taliban you'd need to kill most if not all of them.[/QUOTE] We tried that in Vietnam... Only ended up with the general populace hating us more then they already did.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;34228542]We tried that in Vietnam... Only ended up with the general populace hating us more then they already did.[/QUOTE]So how do you win against taliban? Killing their leaders obviously doesn't work because they can still work standalone.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34228605]So how do you win against taliban? Killing their leaders obviously doesn't work because they can still work standalone.[/QUOTE] I'll tell you how
Political solutions. The military knows full well that every victory against the Taliban in a restricted war only slows down their efforts. The US military and the Taliban could slug it out in the desert for the next billion years. Unfortunately, politicians on both sides aren't always trying to end the war. Some want it to continue forever, some want it to end tomorrow, and none can agree.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;34226788]Good, kill them all.[/QUOTE] got ourselves the next martin luther king here folks
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[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;34227520]The Islamic world continues to be stuck in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] That comment would only work if you forget the horrors that Christian fundamentalists have caused in central africa. [img]http://thumpandwhip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/LRA-6.jpg[/img] Or the sectarian violence in Ireland. pretty much all religion causes shittyness on a gargantuan scale.
[QUOTE=Contag;34228752][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36759995/FP/coin.png[/img][/QUOTE] The hell is this?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;34229952]That comment would only work if you forget the horrors that Christian fundamentalists have caused in central africa. [img]http://thumpandwhip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/LRA-6.jpg[/img] Or the sectarian violence in Ireland. pretty much all religion causes shittyness on a gargantuan scale.[/QUOTE] Buddhism? Hinduism? Well, the split in India and Pakistan is one thing but still. The only notable examples is Christianity and Islam. Hell, I don't even thing the Jews as a religion was the cause of recent conflict or shittyness as of late, but I'm not sure. People are always going to find reasons to do horrible things to eachother, whether it's over Religion, race, culture, or whatever.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;34230238]Buddhism? Hinduism? Well, the split in India and Pakistan is one thing but still. The only notable examples is Christianity and Islam. Hell, I don't even thing the Jews as a religion was the cause of recent conflict or shittyness as of late, but I'm not sure. People are always going to find reasons to do horrible things to eachother, whether it's over Religion, race, culture, or whatever.[/QUOTE] Yeah the Thuggees in India didn't murder up to 2 million people :rolleye:
[QUOTE=NoDachi;34230328]Yeah the Thuggees in India didn't murder up to 2 million people :rolleye:[/QUOTE] I forgot about the thuggees. I am not so sure about the Religious motivations behind them though, if there are any, so if you could tell me I'd appreciate it. Wait, are they still operating know? I know fuck all about most middle eastern and asian politics and history, so excuse the ignorance.
[QUOTE=scout1;34230177]The hell is this?[/QUOTE] I [I]think[/I] its a segment out of the US COIN (COunter INsurgency) manual.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;34230516]I forgot about the thuggees. I am not so sure about the Religious motivations behind them though, if there are any, so if you could tell me I'd appreciate it. Wait, are they still operating know? I know fuck all about most middle eastern and asian politics and history, so excuse the ignorance.[/QUOTE] Crazy Kali worshippers.
[QUOTE=scout1;34230177]The hell is this?[/QUOTE] It's a RAND scorecard list for determining whether an insurgency or counter insurgency operation will succeed or fail [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] to get rid of taliban do things on left avoid things on right COIN means COunter INsurgency, by the way
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;34227520]The Islamic world continues to be stuck in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] LulzbocksV2 continues to be a bigot.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;34228362]Whenever I hear of a drone strike I think of [img]http://images.wikia.com/gearsofwar/images/b/bf/HammerheadDrone.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] First thing I thought of was: [img]http://www.theuen.com/images/drone.jpg[/img] Spawn more overlords, damn it! (edited for hugeness)
...And another guy gets promoted.
[QUOTE=ice445;34235522]First thing I thought of was: *Drones* Spawn more overlords, damn it! (edited for hugeness)[/QUOTE] Never thought of either of those. However [QUOTE=ice445;34235522] Spawn more [B]overlord[/B]s, damn it![/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5qhlPEcUE[/media] Fitting to some degree.
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