[QUOTE] [B]Sweden dishes out more development aid in relation to gross national income than any other country, according to figures released by the OECD this week. [/B]
In 2011, Sweden paid out some 36 billion kronor ($5.33 billion) in overseas development assistance (ODA). This corresponded to 1.02 percent of gross national income (GNI).
According to statistics compiled by the OECD’s Development Assistance Committee (DAC), this put Sweden at the top of the list of the world's largest aid donors when viewed as a proportion of GNI.
Scandinavian neighbour Norway followed close behind, contributing 1 percent of GNI, while Luxembourg was third with 0.99 percent.
”We’re keeping our aid promises at a time when a lot of other countries are breaking theirs,” development aid minister Gunilla Carlsson (Moderate Party) told news agency TT.
In terms of sheer volume, the United States and Germany were the biggest givers, but the GNI statistics showed the two economic powerhouses contributing a comparatively meagre 0.2 percent and 0.4 percent respectively.
Overall global aid volumes dipped in 2011, however, as countries continued to grapple with a long-running economic crisis.
"Sweden coped well with the economic downturn and, unlike many other countries, was able to maintain a high level of aid to poor countries," said Carlsson.
A rise in GNI in 2011 meant Sweden’s aid contribution increased by 10.5 percent in monetary terms.
The government has previously faced criticism for the the measures it uses to calculate development aid, such as the inclusion of debt relief to poor countries.
Minister Carlsson said she expected that criticism to persist, but explained that the government had opted to go by the rules laid out by the DAC when calculating its contribution.
This in turned allowed the DAC to include Sweden in its comparative ranking, said Carlsson.
”And now the DAC thinks we’re the best in the world,” she said.
But while Carlsson confessed to being very pleased with the result, she underlined that there still remained much room for improvement.
”We’re not going to change the poverty situation in the world if we don’t work with companies. The major shift in the way of looking at development aid is the realization that we must work more with the business world. On that point, we are also in agreement with the aid organizations,” she said.
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[url]http://www.thelocal.se/40142/20120407/[/url]
Sweden you are so awesome!
Kinda split on this to be honest, we make cuts in pretty much every sector, I think our cops only have a budget of 30 - 40 billion SEK, or something like that, which is clearly not enough. We also take in 100,000 immigrants each year, and can barely give work to 10% of them all. Just feel it would be better if they started focusing on internal matters before sending off several billions to other countries, all the while taking in immigrants from the same countries.
Oil/Fossil fuel dependent income - Overall income Ratio please.
[QUOTE=The fox;35467709]Kinda split on this to be honest, we make cuts in pretty much every sector, I think our cops only have a budget of 30 - 40 billion SEK, or something like that, which is clearly not enough. We also take in 100,000 immigrants each year, and can barely give work to 10% of them all. Just feel it would be better if they started focusing on internal matters before sending off several billions to other countries, all the while taking in immigrants from the same countries.[/QUOTE]
Y'know maybe [I][B]JUST MAYBE[/B][/I] those money being send out are being used to improve conditions for people in unfortunate situations, so they [B]DON'T[/B] have to immigrate to another country, like Sweden.
[QUOTE=Van-man;35467969]Y'know maybe [I][B]JUST MAYBE[/B][/I] those money being send out are being used to improve conditions for people in unfortunate situations, so they [B]DON'T[/B] have to immigrate to another country, like Sweden.[/QUOTE]
Except the fact that Sweden gladly accepts these people; AND the fact that not all the aid money goes to where it's supposed to go.
Swedish immigrant argument brewing.
everyone is racist as fuck here, it sucks balls tbh
at least in my town :v:
[QUOTE=Zeraxify;35468256]everyone is racist as fuck here, it sucks balls tbh
at least in my town :v:[/QUOTE]
You are not racist just because you want your government to accept less immigrants into the country. For Sweden it's just common sense.
Sweden World sounds like the greatest theme park of all time
[QUOTE=The fox;35468216]Except the fact that Sweden gladly accepts these people; AND the fact that not all the aid money goes to where it's supposed to go.[/QUOTE]
And they should keep accepting these people gladly because believe it or not Sweden needs the immigrants. Swedish families have an average of I think it was either 1.9 or 2.1 kids per family while I believe have immigrants have over 2.5 kids per family. Now to be able to sustain and support all the people working now when they go into retirement Sweden should have an average of at least 2.5 kids per family and without immigrants Sweden wouldn't be able to do that. Now I do believe something should be done about how and where the immigrants are placed and how they should be integrated with the communities but one thing is for certain right now and that is that Sweden needs to continue to accept these people into this country.
[editline]7th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=johan svensk;35468297]You are not racist just because you want your government to accept less immigrants into the country. For Sweden it's just common sense.[/QUOTE]
It's not common sense though to accept less immigrants into the country, at least not yet.
[QUOTE=Bordercrosser;35468338]And they should keep accepting these people gladly because believe it or not Sweden needs the immigrants. Swedish families have an average of I think it was either 1.9 or 2.1 kids per family while I believe have immigrants have over 2.5 kids per family. Now to be able to sustain and support all the people working now when they go into retirement Sweden should have an average of at least 2.5 kids per family and without immigrants Sweden wouldn't be able to do that. Now I do believe something should be done about how and where the immigrants are placed and how they should be integrated with the communities but one thing is for certain right now and that is that Sweden needs to continue to accept these people into this country.
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Yes, work labour with a workforce that actually counts; However, the majority of people that Sweden take in are too old, simply incapable of working or just abuse the system to get cash from the state, since Sweden is so willing to grant exceptions to everyone; for example, immigrants do not need to pay for their drivers license, any illegal immigrants in the country have a right to free healthcare, free schooling, can work and can apply people. If Sweden would hold off and only take in labour we actually need and that can be trained and be integrated; and if they were willing to integrate, I wouldn't have a problem with them. Infact I know a lot of immigrants who have integrated well into society and work hard for their pay, while others simply mooch off the system. The first kind I would gladly take in more of; the second needs to be kicked out and kept out.
The system was as such prior to 1990; You took in about 10,000 people a year, all who got work and integrated well into society, and then you look at the situation now; You take in 100,000 immigrants while we have hundreds of thousands of teens without a job; And the fact that these people usually refuse to integrate into society doesn't help, it will just cost the state more and more money, money that could have been spent on better things.
[QUOTE=johan svensk;35468297]You are not racist just because you want your government to accept less immigrants into the country. For Sweden it's just common sense.[/QUOTE]
i never said it like that
i mean like the few muslims in my class gets asked about bombs daily :v:
[QUOTE=Zambies!;35468244]Swedish immigrant argument brewing.[/QUOTE]Oh god it's happening again IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN [B]IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN![/B]
Seriously, I think the world exploded in 2006 and we're been replaying that year over and over again with minor site UI adjustments.
[QUOTE=The fox;35468402]Yes, work labour with a workforce that actually counts; However, the majority of people that Sweden take in are too old, simply incapable of working or just abuse the system to get cash from the state, since Sweden is so willing to grant exceptions to everyone; for example, immigrants do not need to pay for their drivers license, any illegal immigrants in the country have a right to free healthcare, free schooling, can work and can apply people. If Sweden would hold off and only take in labour we actually need and that can be trained and be integrated; and if they were willing to integrate, I wouldn't have a problem with them. Infact I know a lot of immigrants who have integrated well into society and work hard for their pay, while others simply mooch off the system. The first kind I would gladly take in more of; the second needs to be kicked out and kept out.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly how it is. If you deny it you are either ignorant or just dumb. I live in Sweden i know how it is. But there are a lot good immigrants, but unfortunetly too many bad ones too that the government doesn't do anything about.
[QUOTE=smurfy;35468298]Sweden World sounds like the greatest theme park of all time[/QUOTE]
All the beer and tits you could ever want.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;35468611]All the beer and tits you could ever want.[/QUOTE]
And all the restricted gun laws, inability to defend your own life without getting charged with assault, high taxes, strict regulation and taxing of alcohol and tobacco, a grey pool of all political blocks so you have no apparent choice and violations of your privacy that your little heart can handle, and kissing enough ass to enact laws that go against your own constitution that your little hearts can handle.
From the sounds of it, I think you might want to aim a bit lower on the map and hit Germany, with their Oktoberfest :v
[QUOTE=The fox;35468402]Yes, work labour with a workforce that actually counts; However, the majority of people that Sweden take in are too old, simply incapable of working or just abuse the system to get cash from the state, since Sweden is so willing to grant exceptions to everyone; for example, immigrants do not need to pay for their drivers license, any illegal immigrants in the country have a right to free healthcare, free schooling, can work and can apply people. If Sweden would hold off and only take in labour we actually need and that can be trained and be integrated; and if they were willing to integrate, I wouldn't have a problem with them. Infact I know a lot of immigrants who have integrated well into society and work hard for their pay, while others simply mooch off the system. The first kind I would gladly take in more of; the second needs to be kicked out and kept out.
The system was as such prior to 1990; You took in about 10,000 people a year, all who got work and integrated well into society, and then you look at the situation now; [B]You take in 100,000 immigrants [/B]while we have hundreds of thousands of teens without a job; And the fact that these people usually refuse to integrate into society doesn't help, it will just cost the state more and more money, money that could have been spent on better things.[/QUOTE]
Gonna need a source on that.
[QUOTE=FlashStock;35468671]Gonna need a source on that.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_invandringspolitik[/url]
[quote]Sedan år 2006 invandrar nära 100 000 personer - motsvarande drygt 1 procent av befolkningen - till Sverige varje år. 2006 var antalet invandrare 95 750 stycken. Under år 2008 invandrade 101 171 personer till Sverige,[5] vilket är den högsta kända invandringssiffran i Sveriges historia[/quote]
Which roughly translates to:
[quote]Since 2006 close to 100 000 people - the equivilant of 1 percent of the total population - immigrate to Sweden every year. In 2006 that number was 95 750. During 2008 101 171 immigrants came to Sweden, the highest number known to this date.[/quote]
I assume that is what you meant? Or were you talking about the whole post?
Well, I vote for SD.
[B]Less immigrants - more aid to those in desperate need[/B] instead of going down the pockets of some lucky few that immigrated here.
As a wise man said, immigration can never be a significant way to deal with the suffering or poor people in the world, they need to be helped where they live.
[QUOTE=The fox;35468684][url]http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_invandringspolitik[/url]
Which roughly translates to:
I assume that is what you meant? Or were you talking about the whole post?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I just wanted source on the bolded part, thank you.
[QUOTE=The fox;35468630]And all the restricted gun laws[/quote]
Sweden's gun laws are relatively loose compared to many other countries in Europe
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inability to defend your own life without getting charged with assault[/quote]No, you have the right to defend yourself, expecially if your life is in danger. [url]https://lagen.nu/1962:700#K24P1[/url]
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high taxes[/Quote]
High taxes are necessary to provide the population with welfare and evening out income gaps. The government does not keep the tax payer money in their pockets.
[quote]strict regulation and taxing of alcohol and tobacco[/quote]Which has reduced the consumption of said drugs.
[quote]a grey pool of all political blocks so you have no apparent choice and violations of your privacy that your little heart can handle, and kissing enough ass to enact laws that go against your own constitution that your little hearts can handle.[/quote]What? Important laws (i.e. bigger reforms, laws that might be against the constitution etc.) are reviewed by Lagrådet, so unless you can find a law that has passed despited being deemed as unconstitutional by Lagrådet, I say this is bullshit.
Honestly, if life in Sweden is so miserable maybe you should consider moving?
Hurray, us swedes do something nice for a change and how do we celebrate this on facepunch? Lets slam it for its poor immigration laws! Thank god for sense!
[editline]7th April 2012[/editline]
Typical swedes though, did something good? "Well that one time i did something bad and that one time i did somthing badder and you know."
[QUOTE=Hellsten;35468690]Well, I vote for SD.
[B]Less immigrants - more aid to those in desperate need[/B] instead of going down the pockets of some lucky few that immigrated here.
As a wise man said, immigration can never be a significant way to deal with the suffering or poor people in the world, they need to be helped where they live.[/QUOTE]
hi im an immigrant in sweden :)
and you SD voters can go suck a fuck
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;35468994]Sweden's gun laws are relatively loose compared to many other countries in Europe[/quote]
In comparison to example Finland, Sweden's gunlaws are extremly strict. For example, you are not allowed to carry a knife or any object that can cause bodily grief in a public space; You must have a license to own starting pistols, several parts of weapons are tightly regulated, ammunition needs to have a license on, even if it is in small amounts, or you will be charged with being in breach of the gun law. It will take you a whole year to get your own .22 pistol, and the current laws are being reviewed yet again to make them even more strict.
[quote]No, you have the right to defend yourself, expecially if your life is in danger. [url]https://lagen.nu/1962:700#K24P1[/url][/quote]
[url]http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/misshandlade-valdtaktsman[/url] Man stops the person raping his wife - is charged with assault.
Roughly translates to:
[quote]Assaulted rapist
A man in his twenties climbed into the apartment from the balcony and began raping the female inside the apart. The front door was knocked open and the females husband stormed in, which threw himself over the aggressor.
It all played out in a small suburb outside of Skellefteå this weekend. The rapist was assaulted by the females husband and now both risk being charged.
The 20 year old male is suspected of rape and the husband for assault.[/quote]
I also recall a similiar case in which a elderly female was attacked in her car by a hitchiker which also procceded to rape her; A guy stopped and picked up a tire iron which he used to fend off the rapist with; in the end the guy was charged with assault and was put away in jail for several years, if memory serves em right.
[quote]High taxes are necessary to provide the population with welfare and evening out income gaps. The government does not keep the tax payer money in their pockets.[/quote]
Despite this, you have to pay for both dentist work and going to the hospital. The elderly care is pretty much fucked up the ass and the cops don't have enough resources. Certainly seems like the ludicrous taxes are doing their job well, right?
[quote]Which has reduced the consumption of said drugs.[/quote]
Got any proof of that? And seeing as how the consumption of alcohol bought in other EU countries, namely Germany, doesn't get registered, there are no clear way of knowing exactly how big the consumption is; and the fact that it is so tightly regulated and taxed means the state loses billions of SEK every year since people travel to other EU countries and buy their alcohol there.
[quote]What? Important laws (i.e. bigger reforms, laws that might be against the constitution etc.) are reviewed by Lagrådet, so unless you can find a law that has passed despited being deemed as unconstitutional by Lagrådet, I say this is bullshit.[/Quote]
FRA and The telecommunications storage directive; Both of which breach the right of being anonymous when talking to journalists and also invades the privacy of the person and can access corproate secrets, as an example.
[quote]Honestly, if life in Sweden is so miserable maybe you should consider moving?[/QUOTE]
I will be moving to the UK within the next 3 years.
[QUOTE=The fox;35469109]
FRA and The telecommunications storage directive; Both of which breach the right of being anonymous when talking to journalists and also invades the privacy of the person and can access corproate secrets, as an example.
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FRA är inte så farligt som du får det att låta.
Utdrag från Wikipeddia.
[QUOTE]Tillstånd för signalspaning ska prövas av domstol.
FRA ska ansöka om tillstånd för all signalspaning. Även signalspaning för regeringens behov omfattas alltså av tillståndskrav.
F[B]RA ska enbart få tillgång till de "trafikstråk" som domstolen bestämmer.[/B]
I lagen tydliggörs att FRA [B]inte får signalspana[/B][B] mot trafik där både avsändare och mottagare finns i Sverige.[/B]
FRA får endast bedriva signalspaning på beställning av regeringen, regeringskansliet och försvarsmakten[/QUOTE]
Of course you may feel that your privacy is getting violated, but to be honest, I'd rather have FRA than criminals or terrorists doing crap in this country.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35469201]FRA är inte så farligt som du får det att låta.
Utdrag från Wikipeddia.
Of course you may feel that your privacy is getting violated, but to be honest, I'd rather have FRA than criminals or terrorists doing crap in this country.[/QUOTE]
A clear majority of all internet traffic goes outside of Sweden; And like our dear yankee friends say, I would rather live under the threat ( which is non existant in Sweden ) than let all branches of security, despite the fact that it was originally said ONLY the Security Police would have access to it in case of terrorist activity, but which now even the lowest branch of the police have access to - and for any crime as well.
[QUOTE=The fox;35469109]
[url]http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/misshandlade-valdtaktsman[/url] Man stops the person raping his wife - is charged with assault.
Roughly translates to:
I also recall a similiar case in which a elderly female was attacked in her car by a hitchiker which also procceded to rape her; A guy stopped and picked up a tire iron which he used to fend off the rapist with; in the end the guy was charged with assault and was put away in jail for several years, if memory serves em right.
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How about this then?
[url]http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skotten_i_R%C3%B6deby[/url] (Shot a teenager to death. )
[url]http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/handlade-i-nodvarn-man-slapps-fri_6961727.svd[/url] (Knifed a man to death)
[url]http://www.nyhetspressen.se/1830615.html(Assault)[/url]
And a lot more. I can do this all day and you can probably do that too. The point is that "Nödvärnsrätt" exists in Sweden, in both of your cases excessive amount of violence were used. The rapist got his skull cracked by that iron and has, if I'm not wrong permanent problems due to the hit.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35469269]How about this then?
[url]http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skotten_i_R%C3%B6deby[/url] (Shot a teenager to death. )
[url]http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/handlade-i-nodvarn-man-slapps-fri_6961727.svd[/url] (Knifed a man to death)
[url]http://www.nyhetspressen.se/1830615.html(Assault)[/url]
And a lot more. I can do this all day and you can probably do that too. The point is that "Nödvärnsrätt" exists in Sweden.[/QUOTE]
You can easily be charged as the aggressor when you do actually use it, such as in the case when the males wife got raped and he stepped in. Thusly, not many use it for the fear of legal reprecussion. Point is that the right for self defense in Sweden is a barely minimum, it is very easy to step over the line when dealing with someone causing bodily harm and you, yourself, could easily be at the recieveing end of a jail sentence.
The shots in Rödeby can hardly count as a case of self defense being used, as the defendant was not in a sound state of mind when he shot.
[QUOTE=The fox;35469292]Thusly, not many use it for the fear of legal reprecussion.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that is true. And then we have this debate about the "civilkuragelagen" :v:
[QUOTE=The fox;35469109]In comparison to example Finland, Sweden's gunlaws are extremly strict.
[/quote]Finland is in the process of restricting its gun laws since they've had a couple of public shootings.
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Ill get back to this later, need to find the article about it first.
[/quote]Even if you find an article that still doesn't prove that you can't defend yourself, or are you claiming that the law of Sweden does not apply?
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Despite this, you have to pay for both dentist work and going to the hospital. The elderly care is pretty much fucked up the ass and the cops don't have enough resources. Certainly seems like the ludicrous taxes are doing their job well, right?[/quote]Because the right-wing government we currently have want to lower the taxes, which means they have to cut down on the welfare.
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Got any proof of that? And seeing as how the consumption of alcohol bought in other EU countries, namely Germany, doesn't get registered, there are no clear way of knowing exactly how big the consumption is; and the fact that it is so tightly regulated and taxed means the state loses billions of SEK every year since people travel to other EU countries and buy their alcohol there.[/quote]
Yes, firstly there is this WHO report that indicates that alcohol consumtion in countries with more restricted alcohol laws (Sweden/Norway) is less. ([url]http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/publications/global_alcohol_report/msbgsruprofiles.pdf[/url])
A research group sponsored by the WHO concluded that government monopsony and taxation on alcohol reduced its consumption. (Babor et al., 2003)
Your statement about the government losing "billion" of money from the monopsony is far from a fact (source, by the way? Billions, really?). And even if it were true, monetising on people's addiction to alcohol is very destructive. Systembolaget was not founded to bring in money to the state, that's quite far from its purpose.
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FRA and The telecommunications storage directive; Both of which breach the right of being anonymous when talking to journalists and also invades the privacy of the person and can access corproate secrets, as an example.[/quote]Lagrådet did reach the conclusion that neither of those laws are against the constitution, I wonder who has more legitimacy in this issue, some random neo-liberal on an internet forum looking for evidence to back up his claims in evening newspapers or a congress of educated jurists.
Not that I am in favour of either of those laws, but honestly, breaking the constitution? That's a far-reaching conclusion and you better have something to back that claim up.
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I will be moving to the UK within the next 3 years.[/QUOTE]They have even stricter gun laws there and the taxes aren't much lower. I was thinking that maybe you should move to the middle of nowhere? You won't have to worry about taxes, strict gun regulations, strict regulations on alcohol and tobacco ever again.
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