• Trump’s approval rating is far lower than any president in 7 decades of polling
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[t]https://i.imgur.com/CgAN7br.jpg[/t] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-trumps-performance-lags-behind-even-tepid-public-expectations/2017/11/04/35d2a912-bf4d-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html[/url] [quote]A majority of Americans say President Trump has not accomplished much during his first nine months in office and they have delivered a report card that is far harsher even than the tepid expectations they set for his tenure when he was sworn into office, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News survey. Approaching the first anniversary of his victory over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, Trump has an approval rating demonstrably lower than any previous chief executive at this point in his presidency over seven decades of polling. Fewer than 4 in 10 Americans — 37 percent — say they approve of the way he is handling his job. Trump’s approval rating has changed little over the past four months, which have included tumultuous events, from hurricanes to legislative setbacks to indictments in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into the role Russia played in the 2016 campaign.[/quote] These are the worst ratings EVER! Sad!
Let's make it 0%.
Only far-right losers could love such a pig.
Where's Lyndon B Johnson's approval rating?
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52858049]Where's Lyndon B Johnson's approval rating?[/QUOTE] Looks like Johnson and Ford are excluded cus it's not meaningful (and in Ford's case, impossible) to compare their polling one year after their first election
It doesn't help that his best strategy when he does horrid shit is to distract by calling trans people trannies on twitter or whatever. So to avoid alienating people with the horrible policies, policy failures, and treason, he distracts by saying things that also alienate people. Not a good long term strategy for maintaining an approval rating. Also doesn't do much to distract the FBI.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52858077]Looks like Johnson and Ford are excluded cus it's not meaningful (and in Ford's case, impossible) to compare their polling one year after their first election[/QUOTE] though you can see them over on [url=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo]538[/url] Ford's approval rating is pointless because pardoning Nixon cratered his approval, dunno what's wrong with Johnson.
I'm more surprised Bush had a 9% disapproval rating a year in.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52858271]I'm more surprised Bush had a 9% disapproval rating a year in.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing that's people rallying behind him since those polling numbers are from a couple months after 9/11.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52858271]I'm more surprised Bush had a 9% disapproval rating a year in.[/QUOTE] Not at all. Take a look at the date that rating was measured.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52858271]I'm more surprised Bush had a 9% disapproval rating a year in.[/QUOTE] [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_%27round_the_flag_effect]Rally round the flag effect[/url]
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52858335][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_%27round_the_flag_effect]Rally round the flag effect[/url][/QUOTE] There’s no way Trump isn’t going to try to do this.
[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;52858758]There’s no way Trump isn’t going to try to do this.[/QUOTE] Tell me we're not going to war with NK as a goddamn distraction tactic
His approval doesn't seem to have dropped much though, if at all. Just very high disapproval. [editline]blah[/editline] I can see it's much lower than the others, but I seem to remember it being around 37% a few months ago.
[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;52859051]His approval doesn't seem to have dropped much though, if at all. Just very high disapproval. [editline]blah[/editline] I can see it's much lower than the others, but I seem to remember it being around 37% a few months ago.[/QUOTE] you're right, [URL="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo"]but he's definitely getting diminishing returns on his approval.[/URL] compare his bounce from March 12th to the one on September 25th for example - the peaks are getting smaller and shorter-lived and the valleys are getting deeper. it might be fractional but his approval is taking consistent damage over time.
[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;52859051]His approval doesn't seem to have dropped much though, if at all. Just very high disapproval. [editline]blah[/editline] I can see it's much lower than the others, but I seem to remember it being around 37% a few months ago.[/QUOTE] It is pretty hard to fall further than having only a third of the country approve of you. Falling into the twenties is a real feat which few presidents have achieved, and only in the dying days of their presidency. Nixon just before he resigned, GW Bush after the Iraq War had gone to shit and the financial crisis hit. And that's the real point here - the numbers that Trump has now would usually be seen much later on in a presidency, when their agenda has stalled, scandals have hit their administration, and people are ready for change. Trump pretty much started off on those ratings, and the direction of travel seems unlikely to turn upwards.
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52859193]It is pretty hard to fall further than having only a third of the country approve of you. Falling into the twenties is a real feat which few presidents have achieved, and only in the dying days of their presidency. Nixon just before he resigned, GW Bush after the Iraq War had gone to shit and the financial crisis hit. And that's the real point here - the numbers that Trump has now would usually be seen much later on in a presidency, when their agenda has stalled, scandals have hit their administration, and people are ready for change. Trump pretty much started off on those ratings, and the direction of travel seems unlikely to turn upwards.[/QUOTE] Something else to keep in mind is that the economy is doing well and gas is cheap. If either or both of these take a turn for the worse it's going to be harder to keep approval ratings up because regardless of it's really the fault of the Presidency, they tend to take the brunt of it. [editline]5th November 2017[/editline] From a historical perspective it's interesting because there is no real model for a president who comes in almost immediately to such low approval rating. Pushes you to imagine ways for him to bring it up over the course of the next 3 years.
[QUOTE=Cone;52859165]you're right, [URL="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo"]but he's definitely getting diminishing returns on his approval.[/URL] compare his bounce from March 12th to the one on September 25th for example - the peaks are getting smaller and shorter-lived and the valleys are getting deeper. it might be fractional but his approval is taking consistent damage over time.[/QUOTE] Ooh, thanks for the graph. It's fun to click on the peaks and troughs and google what the news was on that date.
if congress wasn't run by republicans right now trump would legitimately be a lame duck right now.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52860547]if congress wasn't run by republicans right now trump would legitimately be a lame duck right now.[/QUOTE] He's still a lame duck because he can't lead himself out of a wet paper bag let alone lead the hot steaming mess that is the GOP.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52860547]if congress wasn't run by republicans right now trump would legitimately be a lame duck right now.[/QUOTE] He's still a lame duck because: 1) The courts keep shutting down his more outrageous attempts of doing what he promised to do, and 2) Congress, despite having a Republican majority, is still split between Democrats, moderate Republicans, and Tea-Party (hard-right/"crazy") Republicans who can't agree on how to get shit done.
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