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A senior U.S. diplomat says Washington is pushing hard for tough international sanctions against North Korea following its successful long-range rocket launch last month.
Wednesday, Assistant Secretary of State Kurt Campbell told reporters in Seoul that he anticipates formal steps by the United Nations Security Council in the immediate future.
"We are in the midst of really rather intense deliberations in New York in the Security Council led by our Ambassador Rice," he said. "We are in very close consultation with the South Korean government about those deliberations. I think we have their understanding about the way forward and I think you will see more developments in the days ahead."
Campbell, the top American envoy to Asia, also warned North Korea against taking any more "provocative" steps, amid speculation that Pyongyang is preparing to conduct a nuclear test.
"We are very clear in our position that provocative steps are to be discouraged," he said. "We are closely working with the key players, including South Korea, at the U.N. with respect to our diplomacy after the missile test late last year."
Recent satellite images show increased activity at a North Korea nuclear test site, raising fears it may follow up its December rocket launch with a nuclear test, as it did in 2006 and 2009.
The Security Council condemned the rocket launch as a violation of existing sanctions barring North Korea from conducting ballistic missile tests.
But the U.S. and its allies have not yet been able to succeed in tightening the international sanctions, in part because of opposition from Pyongyang's main ally, China.
Cambell's trip does not include a visit to China and he did not discuss Beijing's involvement in the discussions. But, he later met with South Korean President-elect Park Geun-hye to discuss a range of issues, including regional security.
Park, who has taken a cautious-but-tough approach to North Korea, says she has accepted an invitation by President Barack Obama to visit Washington, saying she looks forward to building up a good relationship of mutual trust with the White House.
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It's about damn time! New president for Korea has been known to be a staunch conservative fighting against the North her entire career. (Her mother was assassinated by a NK spy) So I hope to see some sanctions actually going through!
Wouldn't this just fuck up the people of North Korea even more?
Why don't they work towards opening North Korea up and developing it so they will not have a need to use such weapons?
Ah yes. Because North Korea has such a connection to the world of international trade.
We already don't have sanction against NK? I thought we had these years ago
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39248227]Ah yes. Because North Korea has such a connection to the world of international trade.[/QUOTE]
We'll cut off their leader's imported junk food.
The nation will be on it's knees within weeks.
When are they NOT pressing for sanctions?
North Korea's a tricky one.
You leave it and it spirals downwards on it's own.
You open it up through peace or war and you have to deal with millions of refugees who have just realised their lives are terrible. This is partly why china has such strict border control already in place.
[QUOTE=Brandy92;39248443]North Korea's a tricky one.
You leave it and it spirals downwards on it's own.
You open it up through peace or war and you have to deal with millions of refugees who have just realised their lives are terrible. This is partly why china has such strict border control already in place.[/QUOTE]
most people in china knows what the fuck is going on, they simply just don't care
its my firm belief that the more open as a country we allow them to become, their regime would fall in on itself.
not even north korea wants to be open, sanctions are really not going to do shit other than make the actual people suffer.
[QUOTE=Brandy92;39248443]North Korea's a tricky one.
You leave it and it spirals downwards on it's own.
You open it up through peace or war and you have to deal with millions of refugees who have just realised their lives are terrible. This is partly why china has such strict border control already in place.[/QUOTE]
China and North Korea really aren't comparable at all.
North Korea eats China's labor abuses for fucking breakfast. It actually takes the severity of China's human rights abuses, chops them up like bananas and eats them with frosted flakes
Plus North Korea's population is markedly smaller than China's so any immigration issue would be fairly limited. The situation is more comparable to east and west Germany during the cold war and I imagine the resolution of the situation will play out in a similar manner.
[QUOTE=Vasili;39249702]its my firm belief that the more open as a country we allow them to become, their regime would fall in on itself.
not even north korea wants to be open, sanctions are really not going to do shit other than make the actual people suffer.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, how's that working with China?
What did they do this time!? Just that silly little rocket? Come on America, you're break my balls man.
I don't understand how many times you can pass "harsh rounds of sanctions"
obviously they aren't very fucking harsh now are they
Sanctions don't work
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Also Korean needs a new font
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39250991]I don't understand how many times you can pass "harsh rounds of sanctions"
obviously they aren't very fucking harsh now are they[/QUOTE]
I think it's more along the lines of "What hasn't happened to them already," either at their own hands or the hands of international law. Let's face it, North Korea is just about as shitty as it could get at this point.
The only country that trades with North Korea is china and fucking south korea.
[QUOTE=Scrimp;39248217]Wouldn't this just fuck up the people of North Korea even more?
Why don't they work towards opening North Korea up and developing it so they will not have a need to use such weapons?[/QUOTE]Vast majority of e.g. food aid given goes straight to the army and party elite, in any case; fairly difficult to make the lives of average North Koreans worse than it already is.
heres one,
bomb north korea into submission.
It's far easier to get a friend to do something than an enemy... We don't need to be sanctioning them , but instead trying to find ways to help them out. They're impoverished to the point of relative harmlessness.
Let's just hope that in 10-20 years, possibly less, we find ourselves with a unified Korea again, just like we have a unified Germany after the long decades-old slog of the Cold War, hoping for the best but expecting the worst (are you going to drop the bomb or not?)
[QUOTE=SexualShark;39253822]heres one,
bomb north korea into submission.[/QUOTE]
If we did that then millions of innocent lives would be lost.
Not to mention sparking a possible war with North Korea's close(ish) allies, China & Russia.
And believe me you don't want to fuck with Russia or China
Fucking stupid idea.
Yes because the Sanctions that were imposed on it before worked so well.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;39256154]Yes because the Sanctions that were imposed on it before worked so well.[/QUOTE]
So your plan is?
Oh right
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