Roger Stone knew about hacked Podesta emails months before release, got info from Assange
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In the spring of 2016, longtime political operative Roger Stone had a phone conversation that would later seem prophetic, according to the person on the other end of the line.
Stone, an informal adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump, said he had learned from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that his organization had obtained emails that would torment senior Democrats such as John Podesta, then campaign chairman for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
The conversation occurred before it was publicly known that hackers had obtained the emails of Podesta and of the Democratic National Committee, documents that WikiLeaks released in late July and October. The U.S. intelligence community later concluded the hackers were working for Russia.
The person, who spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing federal investigation into Russian campaign interference, is one of two Stone associates who say Stone claimed to have had contact with Assange in 2016.[/quote]
Mueller has been asking people about Stone, so we can assume he's high on Bob's list. His name has also been coming up frequently enough in Trump-Russia investigative reporting for the whole year.
However, Stone is a very close associate of Trump's and clearly has unclean hands, so any move against him is likely to provoke Trump. About the only thing that'd scare Trump more is probably if Kushner, Ivanka, or Sessions was indicted and taken into custody with search warrants.
[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/07/roger-stones-conspicuously-worded-denials-of-wrongdoing-in-the-russia-probe/"]Stone issued some very very suspiciously specific denials when asked about what he knew about Wikileaks recently, too.[/URL]
Oh, and [URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-adviser-roger-stone-warns-091246640.html"]last summer Stone said that any attempt to impeach Trump would spark a violent insurrection and anyone who voted to impeach him could consider their life in imminent danger by Trump cultists.[/URL] Worth noting that Stone was a Nixon administration official. He fucking knows better than to say dangerous shit like this but here he is.
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Reminder that the Podesta emails were dropped an hour after the Access Hollywood tape was released.
Assange held on to them for months, ready to deploy them when they could most tactically benefit Trump, who knew about this arrangement through Roger Stone.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53199422]wasn't this guy fired from the nixon administration for being too dirty?[/QUOTE]
Frankly, the corruption of Nixon's administration is absolutely dwarfed by Trump's.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;53199430]Frankly, the corruption of Nixon's administration is absolutely dwarfed by Trump's.[/QUOTE]
For one, Nixon was ratted out by one of his own people he paid to break into the Democratic office.
Devin Nunes isn't going to come clean about his role, nor is anyone else until Mueller puts them up to the fire.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;53199436]For one, Nixon was ratted out by one of his own people he paid to break into the Democratic office.
Devin Nunes isn't going to come clean about his role, nor is anyone else until Mueller puts them up to the fire.[/QUOTE]
Nixon also didn't have the entirety of his party helping to cover-up his crimes, or the benefit of a dedicated state media propaganda outlet like Fox News.
Not only is the scale of corruption so much greater, but the scale of complicity. The GOP has fully abandoned any desire to protect the integrity and safety of our country in favor of the power that having a hostile state actor attacking their political opponents and election process brings to them. That is over half the legislative branch, and the head of the executive branch, squaring off against the judicial branch and investigative and law enforcement wings of the executive.
Short of the Civil War, this is the greatest challenge our democracy has ever faced.
I admire the fact that Mueller is being as thorough as possible, because he understands that in order to return our country to the proper hands of democracy, [i]every single one of these traitors needs to go.[/i] Every last one of them that had a place in this travesty by selling our country out to the oligarchs and to the Russians across the deep is on his shitlist. He has, likely, a long road ahead of him before he his finished. But it means that we will return to our place as a true first-world democracy, a real exemplar of what a leading free country looks like, when those that are responsible are rightfully, and promptly, served to the highest order for their crimes.
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;53199721]I admire the fact that Mueller is being as thorough as possible, because he understands that in order to return our country to the proper hands of democracy, [i]every single one of these traitors needs to go.[/i] Every last one of them that had a place in this travesty by selling our country out to the oligarchs and to the Russians across the deep is on his shitlist. He has, likely, a long road ahead of him before he his finished. But it means that we will return to our place as a true first-world democracy, a real exemplar of what a leading free country looks like, when those that are responsible are rightfully, and promptly, served to the highest order for their crimes.[/QUOTE]
Mueller's being thorough because he has a history of cracking down on tough-to-solve mob cases IIRC. Considering all the talk of Russian mafia in Trump Tower and all the Russia-Trump connections that seem to be present, I don't think we could have found a better man for the job.
Who exactly appointed Mueller, anyway? They probably feel either really smart or REALLY stupid.
[QUOTE=IKTM;53202910]Who exactly appointed Mueller, anyway? They probably feel either really smart or REALLY stupid.[/QUOTE]
It was by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, he probably knew exactly what he was doing lol.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;53199914]Mueller's being thorough because he has a history of cracking down on tough-to-solve mob cases IIRC. Considering all the talk of Russian mafia in Trump Tower and all the Russia-Trump connections that seem to be present, I don't think we could have found a better man for the job.[/QUOTE]
His career's been stellar
[QUOTE]in 1982, he moved to Boston to work in the office of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Massachusetts as Assistant United States Attorney,[6] where he investigated and prosecuted major financial fraud, terrorism and public corruption cases, as well as narcotics conspiracies and international money launderers.[/QUOTE]
In the DoJ
[QUOTE]During his tenure, he oversaw prosecutions that included Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega, the Pan Am Flight 103 (Lockerbie bombing) case, and the Gambino crime family boss John Gotti. In 1991, he was elected a fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers.[/QUOTE]
As FBI Director (he was the longest serving Director since J. Edgar Hoover)
[QUOTE]In March 2004, Mueller and deputy attorney general James Comey threatened the Bush administration with their resignations if the White House overruled the DOJ finding that the domestic wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP) was unconstitutional, if such were done without a court warrant. On March 12, 2004, after meeting alone and individually with Mueller and Comey at the White House, the president gave his support to changes in the program sufficient to satisfy the concerns of Mueller, Ashcroft and Comey. As director, Mueller barred FBI personnel from participating with the CIA in enhanced interrogations.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;53199436]For one, Nixon was ratted out by one of his own people he paid to break into the Democratic office.
Devin Nunes isn't going to come clean about his role, nor is anyone else until Mueller puts them up to the fire.[/QUOTE]
Maybe this time it's Trey Gowdy, maybe it starts with the news from the recent [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1596007"]thread[/URL]?
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