• Raking Leaves with Dragon's Breath
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR99QcaluqQ[/media]
There's absolutely no point to this video and I don't even care, guns and explosions need no reason.
this is what it truly means to be an american, to shoot leaves in your backyard wearing a gorilla suit with a shotgun loaded with dragon rounds while also exploding a pumpkin
I didn't even know Dragon rounds were legal
USA! USA! USA!
[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;48984319]I didn't even know Dragon rounds were legal[/QUOTE] Why wouldn't they be?
[QUOTE=Apache249;48984474]Why wouldn't they be?[/QUOTE] Because it's difficult to argue that they have a practical purpose. Regular buckshot/birdshot can be used for hunting, but I can't really think of any reason to use Dragon's Breath aside from making cool-looking youtube videos.
[QUOTE=Samiam22;48984505]Because it's difficult to argue that they have a practical purpose. Regular buckshot/birdshot can be used for hunting, but I can't really think of any reason to use Dragon's Breath aside from making cool-looking youtube videos.[/QUOTE] shotgun shells are cool because you can kind of just stick whatever you want in them and see if they fire if you don't give a fuck about fucking up the barrel of your shotgun. people would do the same with other guns if they could (and sometimes do, such as rat shot)
[QUOTE=Samiam22;48984505]Because it's difficult to argue that they have a practical purpose. Regular buckshot/birdshot can be used for hunting, but I can't really think of any reason to use Dragon's Breath aside from making cool-looking youtube videos.[/QUOTE] And since when does practicality have any bearing in deciding whether or not something should be legal?
Well I suppose it would be simple enough to make your own Dragon fire with handloads, but still, I figured the anti-gun lobbies would have had that taken down [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] And let's be honest, no criminal is going to use it they're pretty impractical in the sense that there's no need to burn something that you've already turned into swiss cheese If you were caught then you'd probably get nailed with a bonus sentence for torture or something Come to think of it, dragon fire is kind of just a novelty isn't it. I can't even think of a military application except to act as "shotgun tracers" and who the fuck needs those lol
I'd be curious to see their effectiveness vs potential injury when compared to 12 gauge baton rounds. On one hand, the baton rounds can physically stop a suspect, but on the other hand they are incredibly dangerous. Striking center mass with a baton round can cause serious internal bleeding. Dragon's breath rounds might make you shit your pants if fired in your direction, but chances are you are going to be fine even inside the flame radius. That is about the only practical purpose I can think of.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48984510]shotgun shells are cool because you can kind of just stick whatever you want in them and see if they fire if you don't give a fuck about fucking up the barrel of your shotgun. people would do the same with other guns if they could (and sometimes do, such as rat shot)[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;Ef6bF4tbtO4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef6bF4tbtO4[/video] I'd be doing the EXACT same kind of stupid shit if i had a shotgun.
[QUOTE=lekkimsm;48985159][video=youtube;Ef6bF4tbtO4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef6bF4tbtO4[/video] I'd be doing the EXACT same kind of stupid shit if i had a shotgun.[/QUOTE] Now I know I could get injured with playdoh shotgun shells
[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;48984621]Well I suppose it would be simple enough to make your own Dragon fire with handloads, but still, I figured the anti-gun lobbies would have had that taken down [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] And let's be honest, no criminal is going to use it they're pretty impractical in the sense that there's no need to burn something that you've already turned into swiss cheese If you were caught then you'd probably get nailed with a bonus sentence for torture or something Come to think of it, dragon fire is kind of just a novelty isn't it. I can't even think of a military application except to act as "shotgun tracers" and who the fuck needs those lol[/QUOTE] Making your own incendiary rounds is actually harder than you might think, this guy fucked up his shotgun doing it, it basically welded the shotgun. [video=youtube;xl_TNTG1HiE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_TNTG1HiE[/video]
[QUOTE=Apache249;48984537]And since when does practicality have any bearing in deciding whether or not something should be legal?[/QUOTE] Since we're dealing with weaponry with the capacity to kill someone. You have to balance out practicality and responsibility here. There's no reason to allow the general public to own fire-blasting rounds except for as a hobby- there's a big risk/reward ratio there to letting the public to own these. So anyone would look at it and say "Hey, the cost to public safety is potentially much higher than if we restrict these, and it offers no practical benefit, so we should restrict these".
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48985544']Since we're dealing with weaponry with the capacity to kill someone. You have to balance out practicality and responsibility here. There's no reason to allow the general public to own fire-blasting rounds except for as a hobby- there's a big risk/reward ratio there to letting the public to own these. So anyone would look at it and say "Hey, the cost to public safety is potentially much higher than if we restrict these, and it offers no practical benefit, so we should restrict these".[/QUOTE] The problem is that these rounds don't really add any lethality to the weapon. The most I can see happening is some idiot setting their yard on fire. Maybe they can nail you on a illegal fireworks charge depending on local law but thats all I can actually see happening.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48985544']Since we're dealing with weaponry with the capacity to kill someone. You have to balance out practicality and responsibility here. There's no reason to allow the general public to own fire-blasting rounds except for as a hobby- there's a big risk/reward ratio there to letting the public to own these. So anyone would look at it and say "Hey, the cost to public safety is potentially much higher than if we restrict these, and it offers no practical benefit, so we should restrict these".[/QUOTE] Dragon's breath rounds are a fucking worthless joke. They're just magnesium that burns up. If I had to be shot with anything from a 12 GA shotgun, they would be it. They're only dangerous as a fire hazard, but so is running your car down a dry country road or the millions of fireworks we let anyone light off every year. Not to mention they're like $25 for three of them plus a hazmat shipping fee. Just because something looks scary doesn't mean it's a public safety hazard.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48985544']Since we're dealing with weaponry with the capacity to kill someone. You have to balance out practicality and responsibility here. There's no reason to allow the general public to own fire-blasting rounds except for as a hobby- there's a big risk/reward ratio there to letting the public to own these. So anyone would look at it and say "Hey, the cost to public safety is potentially much higher than if we restrict these, and it offers no practical benefit, so we should restrict these".[/QUOTE] Urgh gross, tyranny.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48985544']Since we're dealing with weaponry with the capacity to kill someone. You have to balance out practicality and responsibility here. There's no reason to allow the general public to own fire-blasting rounds except for as a hobby- there's a big risk/reward ratio there to letting the public to own these. So anyone would look at it and say "Hey, the cost to public safety is potentially much higher than if we restrict these, and it offers no practical benefit, so we should restrict these".[/QUOTE] This is the conclusion that someone would come to when they don't know anything about the subject except for what they saw on TV. Is what way is this deadlier than the plethora of rounds already commonly available? Buckshot, slugs, even birdshot.
That was indeed a guy in a gorilla suit shooting leaves with a shotgun loaded with Dragon's Breath. That was indeed a thing I just watched...
[QUOTE=ironman17;48986310]That was indeed a guy in a gorilla suit shooting leaves with a shotgun loaded with Dragon's Breath. That was indeed a thing I just watched...[/QUOTE] ...Happy Halloween? :v:
[QUOTE=SirKillsAlot;48986289]This is the conclusion that someone would come to when they don't know anything about the subject except for what they saw on TV. Is what way is this deadlier than the plethora of rounds already commonly available? Buckshot, slugs, even birdshot.[/QUOTE] Alright, my main concern is the firehazard. I don't know anything about the rounds but they clearly can light shit up easily. Not making any judgments except what I see in the video. Flamethrowers certainly aren't legal in most areas, so I mean...
I feel like he put some kind of flammable powder under those leaves, and it's not like pumpkins naturally have the ability to explode
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;48985258]Making your own incendiary rounds is actually harder than you might think, this guy fucked up his shotgun doing it, it basically welded the shotgun. [video=youtube;xl_TNTG1HiE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_TNTG1HiE[/video][/QUOTE] did you actually watch the video, though? it was fine until he filled the barrel with titanium powder completely. the shells that burned the dummy worked fine and didn't damage the barrel. on top of that, it still works just fine afterwards (even if your barrel is completely useless, you can swap it) also, taking out the shot, putting in titanium powder, and putting a square of duct tape over the shell looks real hard dude
[QUOTE=Saza;48988870]did you actually watch the video, though? it was fine until he filled the barrel with titanium powder completely. the shells that burned the dummy worked fine and didn't damage the barrel. on top of that, it still works just fine afterwards (even if your barrel is completely useless, you can swap it) also, taking out the shot, putting in titanium powder, and putting a square of duct tape over the shell looks real hard dude[/QUOTE] It doesn't really matter because it's still way less effective than simple buckshot.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48988395']Alright, my main concern is the firehazard. I don't know anything about the rounds but they clearly can light shit up easily. Not making any judgments except what I see in the video. Flamethrowers certainly aren't legal in most areas, so I mean...[/QUOTE] It's easier, quicker and less dangerous (to the guy lighting the fire, at least) to just fill a bottle with petrol, shove a rag in it and light the thing than it is make an incendiary round at home. Also, flamethrowers (including homemade ones) are legal in 49 US states. [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] I'm on a watchlist now, aren't I?
[QUOTE=sgman91;48988966]It doesn't really matter because it's still way less effective than simple buckshot.[/QUOTE] That isn't wrong, but his post was a bit silly
[QUOTE=Shalaska;48989059]It's easier, quicker and less dangerous (to the guy lighting the fire, at least) to just fill a bottle with petrol, shove a rag in it and light the thing than it is make an incendiary round at home. Also, flamethrowers (including homemade ones) are legal in 49 US states. [editline]26th October 2015[/editline] I'm on a watchlist now, aren't I?[/QUOTE] Huh. I thought it was all 50 states? Let me look. Oh. Of course it would be California.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];48988395']Alright, my main concern is the firehazard. I don't know anything about the rounds but they clearly can light shit up easily. Not making any judgments except what I see in the video. Flamethrowers certainly aren't legal in most areas, so I mean...[/QUOTE] Eric added some kind of accelerant to the leaves, which is why the fire took and spread so quickly. It certainly didn't have that effect on its own. A brush fire wouldn't spread that fast or fan up that violently. Now, it would burn, but like I said, the effect is similar to pretty much any commercial firework - much cheaper and more available than dragon's breath rounds. There's no federal laws regarding the sale of flamethrowers and they're legal practically anywhere in the USA.
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