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[release] Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the clear winner in the U.S. Virgin Islands’ Republican presidential caucuses, having won almost 30 percent of the popular vote. In a stunning reversal of past reporting standards, however, much of the “establishment” press declared the victor to be Mitt Romney, who took only around 26 percent but ended up with more delegates.
The reason Romney ended up with more delegates — he took seven, compared to Paul’s one — is because after casting a ballot for a presidential candidate, voters in the Virgin Islands then select delegates to the national convention. Three delegates backing the former Massachusetts Governor and three Republican National Committee “member pledge” delegates were selected for a total of six supporting Romney.
Only one delegate pledged to Ron Paul succeeded in being selected. And one uncommitted delegate announced he would support Romney only after he was chosen.
“Although Dr. Paul received only one delegate, his team received up to three alternate delegate slots and will be well represented in our small delegation,” noted Virgin Islands GOP chairman Herb Schoenbohm in a statement after the unofficial results were posted online. Critics lambasted the process in a comment section under the statement.
Nonetheless, despite coming away with fewer delegates, the Virgin Islands caucus marks the first clear triumph for the Paul campaign in terms of the popular vote. Out of 384 votes cast, Ron Paul took 112, or 29 percent. Romney received 101.
Rick Santorum, meanwhile, placed a distant third with just 23 voters — or six percent of the vote. Newt Gingrich came in last with 18 votes, about five percent. Neither of the two candidates received any delegates.
Analysts called the clear popular-vote win a “moral victory” for the Paul campaign, while others said the press had “buried” the real story. The liberty-minded doctor has been steadily accumulating delegates across America, but — despite coming very close on several occasions — had thus far failed to win the popular vote outright in any state.
The media has largely refused to report Paul’s significant victories in terms of delegate counts, even with good news for the campaign continuing to pour in. And in a wildly misleading article that differs significantly in how it was framed from past reports, the Associated Press reported that Romney won the Virgin Islands. Nowhere did the deceptive report mention that Paul actually got the most votes.
“If the popular vote means you’ve won, then Ron Paul just won the U.S. Virgin Island Caucus. If collecting delegates equals victory, then Paul stands to do well there too,” the Texas Congressman’s campaign said in a statement. “The media is trying to have it both ways with Romney and the Virgin Island Caucus while ignoring Ron Paul’s actual straw poll first place victory. Not that media duplicity is ever of any surprise to Paul and his supporters.”
In a video ridiculing the deceptive press reports about the results, popular conservative pundit and Paul campaign staffer Jack Hunter took "reporters" to task for misleading the public and concealing the truth. “Here’s a little math lesson for you mainstream media folks out there,” Hunter noted. “Admittedly, I’m not very good at math, but the last time I checked, 29 percent was higher than 26 percent.”
Hunter also pointed out that in every single primary and caucus held so far, the establishment press has reported the winner based on the popular vote count. However, despite the fact that Ron Paul has almost certainly collected far more delegates in multiple states than the popular-vote count would seem to indicate, the “mainstream media” has consistently downplayed or ignored the campaign’s successes.
“Any responsible journalist, by using the parameters we’ve used throughout this election, would be reporting that Ron Paul won the U.S. Virgin Islands Caucus,” Hunter said. “But once again, when Ron Paul does win, they find all sorts of ways to ignore it — this is just another example of that. Congratulations to Ron Paul on winning the U.S. Virgin Islands Caucus.”
Even big government-supporting Paul foes highlighted the absurdity of the situation. “Something tells me the popular vote won't count in this one,” noted a blogger at the far-left Daily Kos website. “I'm no [dedicated Paul supporter], but if they change the rules here it does say something. How can you read that Paul gets the most votes but gets 1 delegate, but Romney gets seven and not start to wonder if the fix is in?”
And at Slate, a left-of-center website, David Weigel highlighted the bizarre reporting in a piece entitled “The Virgin Islands Caucus: How Ron Paul Lost By Getting the Most Votes.” “The headline doesn't match the data,” he wrote, pointing to the AP’s deceptive article. “A pity for Paul.”
Over the weekend, Santorum was the overwhelming winner of the popular vote in Kansas’ caucus, taking over half of the votes and more than three out of four delegates. In Wyoming, Romney was the victor, picking up seven delegates. Santorum reportedly took three, Paul earned one, while Gingrich had zero. Romney also won in the territories of Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.
On Tuesday, Mississippi and Alabama will hold their primaries. Caucuses will also be held in Hawaii and American Samoa.[/release]
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Ron Paul 2012
rEVOLution
He's still a terrible candidate, they all are. He has a ton of crazy ideas for every one good idea.
I'd rather it be him than any other GOP candidate.
At least he can have a legitimate debate.
But either way, good for him, he's been trying for so long.
[QUOTE=mark6789;35116992]Ron Paul 2012[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kymandu;35116993]rEVOLution[/QUOTE]
back to the r/circlejerk shithole with you.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;35117033]back to the r/circlejerk shithole with you.[/QUOTE]
Never heard of it. How is it there?
[quote]The media has largely refused to report Paul’s significant victories in terms of delegate counts, even with good news for the campaign continuing to pour in.[/quote]
Significantly... in last place
Again, I don't like Ron Paul as a candidate. However, I really think all of this media coverage ignoring him is highly unfair, and just makes me frustrated.
I think ron paul is the most sane out of all the candidates. Lets be serious, he is the only one that can be even considered to be reasonable.
he will never win a election though.
edit reasonable lol.
On the contrary Santorum seems to be quite the candidate, high morals, supports constitutional rights and is very selective of what he says to be sure not to offend anyone.
Ron Paul is the most promising GOP candidate in the last 25 years, in terms of honesty and integrity.
He's not a scummy douchebag with his politics and can't be bought. Even if you don't like some of his ideas you can still man up and have some respect for the point he's trying to make.
...and I viciously hate republicans
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;35117091]Ron Paul is the most promising GOP candidate in the last 25 years, in terms of honesty and integrity.
He's not a scummy douchebag with his politics and can't be bought.[/QUOTE]
mr. "fuck the federal government" ron paul tried to pass federal legislation banning abortion. honesty and integrity indeed.
As much as I disagree with Ron Paul's views, he can actually argue and defend them properly, unlike Santorum, and sticks by them, unlike Romney.
One things for sure I am voting for Ron Paul. even if it's a wasted vote. but I will not look back 20 years from now and remember I voted that bastard( Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney or Obama) into office because I had no other choice.
[QUOTE=nemmises5;35117127]One things for sure I am voting for Ron Paul. even if it's a wasted vote. but I will not look back 20 years from now and remember I voted that bastard( Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney or Obama) into office because I had no other choice.[/QUOTE]
hahaha calling obama a bastard compared to paul
I feel like all the candidates are competing for second place here
I am happy he won something, but I still think he is the worst candidate. He is just as socially conservative as Santorum, but has the smarts and experience to actually implement and argue his insane plans.
The fact that he is worse than Santorum (but sounds much better than the other 3 candidates), yet somehow appeals to young liberals (who are ignorant), is a sign that he is the most dangerous candidate.
I can't wait until this election is over so I don't have to talk about him for another couple of years.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;35117102]mr. "fuck the federal government" ron paul tried to pass federal legislation banning abortion. honesty and integrity indeed.[/QUOTE]
things like abortion aren't the things that are completely fucking the US over right now.
[QUOTE=s3xt0y;35117060][I]a[/I] election
edit reasonable lol.[/QUOTE]
should edit that too
[QUOTE=person11;35117219]I am happy he won something, but I still think he is the worst candidate. He is just as socially conservative as Santorum, but has the smarts and experience to actually implement and argue his insane plans.
The fact that he is worse than Santorum (but sounds much better than the other 3 candidates), yet somehow appeals to young liberals (who are ignorant), is a sign that he is the most dangerous candidate.
I can't wait until this election is over so I don't have to talk about him for another couple of years.[/QUOTE]
wait, you honestly think hes WORSE than Santorum? what kind of drugs are you on?
[editline]13th March 2012[/editline]
you're honestly INSANE if you think hes [I][B]worse[/B] than [B]SANTORUM[/B][/I]
Can someone explain why Obama is a bad president?
I'm pretty sure the republicans are winning the election for Obama in sheer stupidity alone.
He is worse than Santorum because he is smart. I thought you guys would take that as a compliment!
Santorum is terrible but will probably be forgotten soon, and barely manages to not suck at debates.
Ron Paul will not stop. Ever.
[editline]12th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Atlascore;35117325]Worse than Santorum? Sorry no, he's bad but not [i]that[/i] bad.
Also good job generalizing whole groups of people as being ignorant just because they're young and liberal, young christian conservatives are totally more knowledgeable right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I did generalize there.
The stereotype of the college kid who supports Ron Paul without knowing what he really wants is probably not as true as it seems.
[QUOTE=person11;35117219] yet somehow appeals to young liberals (who are ignorant)[/QUOTE]
Because ideology equates with intelligence, right?
[QUOTE=Comrade Lurker;35117351]Because ideology equates with intelligence, right?[/QUOTE]
I admit that I was generalizing there, yeah.
I am a young liberal, by the way. I was referring to the stereotype of the young liberal who is disappointed in Obama, and goes for Ron Paul without knowing what he actually wants. Based on the people I've talked to, it seems to be the case, but I am sure those people make up a minority of the people who support Ron Paul.
[QUOTE=person11;35117373]I was referring to the stereotype of the young liberal who is disappointed in Obama, and goes for Ron Paul without knowing what he actually wants.[/QUOTE]
In that case, I understand what you're saying. Seems to be the case, but you see that with the majority public anyway. Most people are willing to jump ship if they're not satisfied.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;35117142]hahaha calling obama a bastard compared to paul[/QUOTE]
Obama is one of the worst presidents ever elected. Obama is a bastard. I don't wan't any GOP candidate to be president but ron paul is STILL better than Obama IMO
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