Australia: Internet companies ruled by Federal Court to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites. - Polidicks

[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-15/federal-court-orders-pirate-bay-blocked-in-australia/8116912[/url] [QUOTE]The Federal Court has ordered internet companies to block five copyright-infringing websites, including torrent website The Pirate Bay. Internet companies now have 15 business days to implement the blocks. The Federal Court has allowed internet service providers (ISPs) to choose the method of blocking. It could be DNS blocking, blocking IP addresses, URL blocking or any other technical methods which are mutually agreed to by ISPs and rights holders. It is the first time the site-blocking laws have been used successfully in Australia, and is a win for copyright holders who have long wanted to see the end of the website. The Federal Court handed down its judgement this afternoon, also ordering that ISPs block similar bittorrent websites Torrentz, TorrentHound, IsoHunt and streaming service SolarMovie. The "landing page" as it is referred to, will be hosted by either the ISP or the rights holder. The page will show that access has been disabled by order of the Federal Court because it "infringes or facilitates the infringement of copyright". There is nothing in the act that discusses penalties for people who try to access the sites.[/QUOTE]

Cut off one head... 50 billion more show up

VPNs are going to make a lot more money soon.

They've already attacked ThePirateBay before and they just moved countries I believe.

Can't wait for the reaction from Foxtel when it does nothing.

[QUOTE=Zet;51532215]VPNs are going to make a lot more money soon.[/QUOTE] The article mentions VPNs: [QUOTE]Some enterprising internet users have found ways to get around site-blocking laws by using a VPN, which hides the user's country of origin. But [Village Roadshow exec] Mr Burke was confident this approach would not be popular in Australia. "The experience overseas is not many people use VPNs because they cost money as well," he said. "[A torrent website user would] still face the issue of dealing with viruses, scams and a pretty terrible, terrible neighbourhood so I think that should factor, but I think also when we explain to people that it's not a victimless crime, that other people lose their jobs, I think that will have an impact. "So I don't see that as significant. I think we can address that."[/QUOTE] Mr Burke is pretty naive and out of touch; he doesn't mention how many people is "not many". If viruses were a problem before, they'll still be a problem - only VPN users will presumably be experienced enough to not find it a problem. Fuck suits like this one, he isn't exactly having money issues.

This is a scary precedent.

They never learn, do they?

This was done in Norway through DNS blocking (only TPB though afaik). It's hilariously easy to bypass of course, and I suspect the ones who enforced it choose the least effective method on purpose.

[QUOTE=Tasm;51532234]This is a scary precedent.[/QUOTE] No it's not a scary precedent imo. The law only allows an aggrieved party to apply to the Court to have it blocked if they can show two things: 1. the website is outside of Australia 2. the website's primary purpose is for copyright infringement While 2 may be somewhat contention depending on your opinion on what websites like thepiratebay or other torrent trackers do, it is not as if the Government can just suddenly block a website they disagree with under these exact laws. Regardless, it looks like its going to be DNS blocking. Just go to 8.8.8.8.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;51532269]These efforts have proven to actually be effective. In conjunction with many of the most prominent warez groups either being captured or disbanded, blocking sites either nationwide or seizing their servers, makes piracy as a whole a pain in the ass. What was once a fairly straightforward process is now a minefield of viruses and scams, since the mirrors of the closed or blocked sites are now left completely unmoderated leaving it open to massive waves of adwares, worms and trojans, making finding anything a huge hassle - which translates to dead torrents with no peers whatsoever since very few bother digging up the half-decent ones from the spam piles of trash. Kickass Torrents is now almost completely useless, for example. The mirrors work only halfway, with many functions like seed/peer filters not even usable, so good luck trying to find that specific torrent you've been looking for. These steps aren't directly influencing piracy, they're retroactively making people not want to bother with pirating in the first place because so many simply turn away from piracy because it demands a certain degree of dedication and exploration on the web to be able to find anything decent.[/QUOTE] The situation is a bit different in Australia than the rest of the world, we have one of the highest piracy rates despite also having one of the worst internet speeds in the world. A lot of content is just flat out not legally obtainable here, stuff that is available is frequently released weeks or months later than everywhere else (referring to media), and then also costs more (despite being a digital good, and not having import tax, especially AAA devs on steam that bump the price by 66% because fuck you). Then if you want pay TV you have Foxtel which is expensive as fuck, you can't pick what you want to watch when you want to watch it, and [I]still has fucking ads[/I]. The best way to combat piracy is to provide a better service, Steam does this, Netflix would do this if the media corps didn't have region restricted distribution rights, I guess Google Play Music and Spotify for music too but I've never tried them.

in my experience australians will just straight up not bother with a piece of media if it cannot be pirated or obtained legally&conveniently piracy rates may drop but i don't think that the rate at which australians pay for media will rise by much if any

[QUOTE=J!NX;51532212]Cut off one head... 50 billion more show up[/QUOTE] 50 billion more ugly, disfigured and degenerated heads. After KAT died there's still nothing even close to it to be a replacement. I don't understand why people think piracy is this immortal invincible being. Killing off the big guys creates chaos and fragmentation. Sure, if all you're looking for is the latest episode of walking dead you won't have much issues. But anything even slightly more rare can be either lost forever or pretty damn hard to find.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;51532269]These efforts have proven to actually be effective. In conjunction with many of the most prominent warez groups either being captured or disbanded, blocking sites either nationwide or seizing their servers, makes piracy as a whole a pain in the ass. What was once a fairly straightforward process is now a minefield of viruses and scams, since the mirrors of the closed or blocked sites are now left completely unmoderated leaving it open to massive waves of adwares, worms and trojans, making finding anything a huge hassle - which translates to dead torrents with no peers whatsoever since very few bother digging up the half-decent ones from the spam piles of trash. Kickass Torrents is now almost completely useless, for example. The mirrors work only halfway, with many functions like seed/peer filters not even usable, so good luck trying to find that specific torrent you've been looking for. These steps aren't directly influencing piracy, they're retroactively making people not want to bother with pirating in the first place because so many simply turn away from piracy because it demands a certain degree of dedication and exploration on the web to be able to find anything decent.[/QUOTE] isnt this kind of already the case? Piracy has always been a pain to a degree unless it's one of those ones that just have the real installer, a keygen and a cracked .exe but a ton have custom installers/repacks/whatever. a lot harder than just buying off steam and then downloading it at whatever your max internet speed is (and not relying on seeders)

I laughed hard when I heard that piracy had taken a dip with new streaming sites like netflix showing up on the scene. What a fucking surprise. Being able to actually purchase shows legally reduces piracy.

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51532448]50 billion more ugly, disfigured and degenerated heads. After KAT died there's still nothing even close to it to be a replacement. I don't understand why people think piracy is this immortal invincible being. Killing off the big guys creates chaos and fragmentation. Sure, if all you're looking for is the latest episode of walking dead you won't have much issues. But anything even slightly more rare can be either lost forever or pretty damn hard to find.[/QUOTE] Piracy isn't a good thing I'll agree. Even a multi-billion dollar company doesn't deserve content theft. Though, it's something that can't really be stopped. there are far too many ways pirates can move to, some that existed before the internet, somet that have always existed, and others that are being made new. It's just not going away. Ok, fighting it? Fair, but it's an unbeatable fight. Only thing you really can do is go after the big dudes running the show, the ones who give people free shit. [QUOTE=MuTAnT;51532480]I laughed hard when I heard that piracy had taken a dip with new streaming sites like netflix showing up on the scene. What a fucking surprise. Being able to actually purchase shows legally reduces piracy.[/QUOTE] really this is the only true way to fight piracy tbh Piracy is a better service than having to buy a disc or deal with TV. It's a better service than privacy infringing DRM or programs like uplay that are just a fucking headache. So what do you do? Make a better service than piracy.

[QUOTE=J!NX;51532481]Piracy isn't a good thing I'll agree. Even a multi-billion dollar company doesn't deserve content theft. Though, it's something that can't really be stopped. there are far too many ways pirates can move to, some that existed before the internet, somet that have always existed, and others that are being made new. It's just not going away. Ok, fighting it? Fair, but it's an unbeatable fight. Only thing you really can do is go after the big dudes running the show, the ones who give people free shit. [/QUOTE] It is unbeatable but not invincible. Shutting down all major channels leaves many scrambling. Making piracy harder is the goal of many anti-piracy efforts. Since as you said, make a service that's better than piracy. If piracy is hard, making such a service is much easier. When it comes to torrents in particular, they depend on community of seeds to work. Many small trackers that spawn after a big one dies don't get this luxury which results in either shitty speed (thus bad quality of piracy service) or no download at all. [QUOTE=J!NX;51532481] really this is the only true way to fight piracy tbh Piracy is a better service than having to buy a disc or deal with TV. It's a better service than privacy infringing DRM or programs like uplay that are just a fucking headache. So what do you do? Make a better service than piracy.[/QUOTE] It isn't easy to beat free and stay profitable at the same time. Not impossible, just not easy. That's why making piracy harder is a valid tactic too, effectiveness can vary though.

I mean, its not like it prevents anyone from just getting a magnet link from random sites right..?

I though the piratebay died last year? Although, I wonder if the cinema's will increase their prices after hearing this ruling?

This will stop nothing

[QUOTE=DogGunn;51532264]No it's not a scary precedent imo. The law only allows an aggrieved party to apply to the Court to have it blocked if they can show two things: 1. the website is outside of Australia 2. the website's primary purpose is for copyright infringement While 2 may be somewhat contention depending on your opinion on what websites like thepiratebay or other torrent trackers do, it is not as if the Government can just suddenly block a website they disagree with under these exact laws. Regardless, it looks like its going to be DNS blocking. Just go to 8.8.8.8.[/QUOTE] I love our google overlord sometimes, voting pirate party in a couple years... really good guy and hes actually gaining traction in belgium [editline]15th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Marbalo;51532777]piracy is inevitably starting to fade into obscurity, and is driving more and more people away from it. And no more important than the warez groups themselves, are the peers who are supposed to keep the content available. Without them, there's no point to anything. Piracy isn't an immortal beast like someone has already said, and it completely dying off isn't some far-fetched Internet Providers wet dream.[/QUOTE] Piracy will never die, but it has become a bit obsolete due to companies catching on to the actual problem... distribution. See netflix and like it

lol piratebay was shit anyway. Rutracker and Rutor number one

[QUOTE=Araknid;51537707]lol piratebay was shit anyway. Rutracker and Rutor number one[/QUOTE] Actually the various private trackers are number one, Rutracker is ok but the quality is questionable and everything is badly seeded. [editline]16th December 2016[/editline] Public trackers in general kinda suck, there's no incentive for content retention so old stuff just dies.

there's a site where you can find over a thousand pirate bay mirrors, and even if that mirror hosting site is blocked, thousands appear with the same or different links this shit simply wont work might as well cut off my arm and put a bandaid, you'll stop .3% of the bleeding but blood will flow through anyway [editline]16th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=helifreak;51532297]The best way to combat piracy is to provide a better service, Steam does this, Netflix would do this if the media corps didn't have region restricted distribution rights, I guess Google Play Music and Spotify for music too but I've never tried them.[/QUOTE] Spotify stopped me from pirating music and Steam stopped me from pirating games and I know many people who would agree with me on that. Netflix is pretty good right now but having a Netflix + Stan combo means you have a huge amount of selection which has curbed a lot of piracy already

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51532448]50 billion more ugly, disfigured and degenerated heads. After KAT died there's still nothing even close to it to be a replacement. [/QUOTE] Good news. Kat's back. [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5inc1b/kickasstorrents_brought_back_to_life_by_original/[/url]