• Getting PC overhaul, Ryzen vs 770k? Any obvious advantages?
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[url]https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YCJz9W[/url] And [url]https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g87DKZ[/url] Which one will be better at mix of gaming, vidio or photo editing, gave development and 3D modelling? Sorry, fucked title a bit, meant vs 7700k Would Ryzen have any benefits? Is there a 3rd option that I am overlooking? Currently running 4690k clocked to 4.6ghz so something as over clockable would be a plus, looking to switch to custom liquid cooling though so far only found site called ewkb, any similar brands you can recommend?
Why would you want an upgrade if you're on the 4690K?
[QUOTE=Daemon White;51945922]Why would you want an upgrade if you're on the 4690K?[/QUOTE] I want the get HTC vive and get more involved into game development. Plus I have been planting new build from scratch for a while.
Alrighty. Well, Ryzen is a new CPU and reportedly has some bugs with it, but at the same time, AMD's tech seems to improve rather nicely over time. To the point it's been dubbed "FineWine" by fans. Intel's 7700K is also a good chip though, as they've kinda always been.
If you're using production software that benefits from more cores, it's a fairly easy choice to make. If not, it's more or less whichever you fancy. Long term I think ryzen is a good choice to make. AMD is also committed to keeping the AM4 platform until 2020 so if you'll want a processor upgrade by then you're safe.
Ryzen is looking great for development. Unless you are really hitting a limit with your 4690K I would wait. The Vive runs well enough on it, as does he majority of amateur game development. His gives you more time to see where Ryzen is going once AMD(and Microsoft) fix the bugs that come with a new CPU architecture.
Definitely go for ryzen if you are going towards development. The additional cores will speed up compile times as well as more complicated tasks like baking lighting into a scene.
Ryzen will be better in the long run for everything including gaming.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;51952760]Ryzen will be better in the long run for everything including gaming.[/QUOTE] We really don't know that yet. People said the same thing about Bulldozer, although that is sort of true. It arguably performed better against Haswell and such in games at their time of release than it did against Sandy Bridge. It's in the developers court.
I'd say go with Ryzen if you want a massive boost in multi-threaded performance. If you're staying with Intel you could save some money by going with the i7 4790K instead, not a whole lot has happened on the Intel front since it was released [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Levelog;51953735]We really don't know that yet. People said the same thing about Bulldozer, although that is sort of true. It arguably performed better against Haswell and such in games at their time of release than it did against Sandy Bridge. It's in the developers court.[/QUOTE] afaik most games are only able to utilize ~70% of the Ryzen cores that they actually use, so I'd say they'll definitely perform better in the future. Optimization is key
if you're upgrading for VR, you may be better looking at a new CPU.
Also the new Ryzen 6 line looks really promising as well and is coming April 11th. So I'd def. wait until after then to upgrade. Especially because the best 6-core is half the price of the 1800x and has a 4.0ghz boost.
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;51953818]I'd say go with Ryzen if you want a massive boost in multi-threaded performance. If you're staying with Intel you could save some money by going with the i7 4790K instead, not a whole lot has happened on the Intel front since it was released [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] afaik most games are only able to utilize ~70% of the Ryzen cores that they actually use, so I'd say they'll definitely perform better in the future. Optimization is key[/QUOTE] I have noticed by R7 1700X doesn't hit 100% in many games and benchmarks on any core. Also the whole temp sensor debacle is just :what:
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;51970120]I have noticed by R7 1700X doesn't hit 100% in many games and benchmarks on any core. Also the whole temp sensor debacle is just :what:[/QUOTE] This is likely a mix between game developers not fully utilizing them, and the OS being a piece of shit and not doing it either. However, you really do not want them to hit 100% on all cores either. But you're right, the load has not been as distributed in several game benchmarks, as it could've been.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;51970120]I have noticed by R7 1700X doesn't hit 100% in many games and benchmarks on any core. Also the whole temp sensor debacle is just :what:[/QUOTE] The utilization is up to the developers to fix, and just means that shit will run even faster in the future. The whole temp debacle on 'X' CPU's is really strange though, my friend's 1800X maxes out at 82 "AMDegrees" which as I understand it translates to 62 Celsius, no idea what the fuck they're doing there to be honest. [editline]17th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=mastersrp;51972673] However, you really do not want them to hit 100% on all cores either.[/QUOTE] Except you sort of do? 100% CPU + 100% GPU utilization is optimal, unused resources are wasted resources
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;51974342]The utilization is up to the developers to fix, and just means that shit will run even faster in the future. The whole temp debacle on 'X' CPU's is really strange though, my friend's 1800X maxes out at 82 "AMDegrees" which as I understand it translates to 62 Celsius, no idea what the fuck they're doing there to be honest. [editline]17th March 2017[/editline] Except you sort of do? 100% CPU + 100% GPU utilization is optimal, unused resources are wasted resources[/QUOTE] 100% CPU on all cores means no available resources, so if ANYTHING additional has to be done, then it's not possible, and will eventually slow the system down. You obviously want a theoretical 100% CPU utilization at all times, but it's not practically feasible to do, because of the above.
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