Nigel Farage Was 'Tired Out' When He Made 'Romanian Neighbours', As Ukip Takes Out Full-Page Telegra
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[quote]Just a few short hours after "tired out" Nigel Farage made a semi-apology for his comments about undesirable Romanian neighbours, a defiant full-page advert from Ukip appeared in Monday's Telegraph with police stats on Romanian criminals.
In the open letter, Farage admitted that his comment to LBC's James O'Brien provoked "predictable.. accusations of racism."
During Friday's car-crash interview Farage was asked what the difference was between having a group of Romanian men or German children as neighbours.
"You know what the difference is," Farage murmured in response. Asked about his comments on Sunday during an ITV interview, Farage said: "I regret the fact that I was, sort of, completely tired out, and I didn't chose, I didn't use the form of words in response that I would have liked to have used.
"I should have just hit back immediately and said, look, understand there is a real problem here, you can't deny it.
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"Too much criminality from those gangs from Romania has come to London - I could have been clearer. But, do you know what? In life, sometimes we get things wrong."
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But that admission was a million miles away from the intransigent rhetoric of the Telegraph advert, entitled 'An Open Letter From Ukip Leader Nigel Farage MEP' and addressed 'Dear UK citizen'.
[B]It points out several statistics about Romanian crime, including one allegation that 92% of crimes at London ATMs are committed by Romanians.[/B][/quote]
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/19/farage-ukip-tired_n_5349828.html[/url]
Keep diggin' that hole Farage. Please, keep digging that hole.
I was tired and what I actually think slipped out.
I really don't see how he can consider "one might feel unsafe living next to a Romanian family" racist while not considering the constant emphasis on "Romanians cause a shit ton of crime and that's why we should do something about them" racist.
The first is only the obvious conclusion of the second.
to add to the hilarity
[quote]Nigel Farage has defended controversial remarks he made about Romanians, saying people would be right to be concerned if a group moved in next door.
The UKIP leader was speaking to the BBC the day after appearing to say he had been wrong, because he was tired.
On four occasions in an interview with the BBC's Political Editor Nick Robinson, Nigel Farage was offered the opportunity to apologise but refused.[/quote]
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27474099[/url]
fucking barraged
Is anyone who is voting for UKIP interested in his whole attempt to salvage these fiascos? He should just come clean and accept what he and his party actually is, and he'll most likely gain more votes.
[QUOTE=Fetret;44861334]Is anyone who is voting for UKIP interested in his whole attempt to salvage these fiascos? He should just come clean and accept what he and his party actually is, and he'll most likely gain more votes.[/QUOTE]
because they work by attracting voters who are either in denial or are too embarrassed about being openly racist.
Again, I think he means Roma, not Romanians. Piss poor excuse anyway.
[QUOTE=Memobot;44861425]Again, I think he means Roma, not Romanians. Piss poor excuse anyway.[/QUOTE]
Interchangeable for the UKIP voter/MP.
[QUOTE=Stopper;44861597]Interchangeable for the UKIP voter/MP.[/QUOTE]
True. He should find out how insulting that is to Romanians though.
But what can you expect from an elected official who spends very little time actually in Parliament?
Politics is boring
[QUOTE=himlok;44862594]Are you saying [I]all [/I]UKIP voters are racists?[/QUOTE]
No, and you'd know that if you paid more mind to what the post says and less to what you wish it did.
crap politics
[QUOTE=himlok;44862733]Pay more mind [URL="http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2014/05/the-smears-against-nigel-farage-and-ukip-have-reached-spectacular-depths/"]to other news sources[/URL] than BBC and Huffington Post.[/QUOTE]
oh that [B]blog[/B] sure showed me none of my opinions can be correct
Politics sucks.
[QUOTE=himlok;44862733]Pay more mind [URL="http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2014/05/the-smears-against-nigel-farage-and-ukip-have-reached-spectacular-depths/"]to other news sources[/URL] than BBC and Huffington Post.[/QUOTE]
I read the entire thing and not once does it attempt to persuade the reader by using facts or offering an alternative viewpoint, and simply deflects the issue. There is no reponse to his clearly sterotypical or downright awkward statements about Romanians, no rebuttal to his clearly wrong and racist claim that Romanians were going to swarm us in droves. The list goes on. All it says is 'Wah wah they hate us and wah wah the Green Party has an extreme-left member or two"
UkiP needs to grow the fuck up and and stop being a one-policy party, and stop using excuses like 'I was tired', or 'you misunderstood', or 'clearly I reflect others'. That's what they claim all the other parties do!
Pat Bondell.
[QUOTE=himlok;44862827]I'm making a point about being logical. If you simply read the BBC and Huffington Post and immediately agree with all their articles then you are a damned fool[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=himlok;44862827]who is sucking the establishment's dick. They are [B][U]biased[/U][/B].[/QUOTE]
How the hell are the BBC sucking on the Tories dick? Or the Lib Dems for that matter? Even on the main news they have people filled with critic and alternative viewpoints. Nick Robinson is always challenging the main parties opinions.
[QUOTE=himlok;44862827]If you're not convinced by it just being a 'blog' then go read the 280 comments listed below. I'd say that's a decent amount for a blog, as you put it?[/QUOTE]
Quantity =/= Quality. There is nothing in that blog that hasn't been said 100 times over with no substance to back it up.
[QUOTE=himlok;44862827]I'm making a point about being logical. If you simply read the BBC and Huffington Post and immediately agree with all their articles then you are a damned fool who is sucking the establishment's dick. They are [B][U]biased[/U][/B].
You need to read different sorts of news to get an all-round view of what someone is about. It's just a point I'm making, don't always fall for the big organisations like BBC!
[B]EDIT:[/B] If you're not convinced by it just being a 'blog' then go read the 280 comments listed below. I'd say that's a decent amount for a blog, as you put it?[/QUOTE]
Honestly, if you don't see the hypocrisy of saying "You can't take those ones at their word, here, take this at it's word" then you're already a lost cause.
OK
[QUOTE=himlok;44862888]Nick Robinson is great, don't get me wrong. I saw him in Oxford the other day with BBC crew interviewing people at the bus station about Farage vs Clegg, but it's well known the BBC is bias.[/QUOTE]
How is it 'well known'?
If you can show me something that says they are slightly left of centre in how they report - maybe, but I'd argue they're the least bias of all the big news groups, by a long way.
That's fair enough.
I suspect the questions the BBC fires at ukip derive a great deal more from those being the sorts of questions most people want to know the answer to, rather than them having any sort of political agenda. Maybe that does make them biased to a degree but it only means you can accuse them of pandering to tv ratings at the cost of political neutrality.
And who's to say that we shouldn't grill a party on the abhorrent nature of its constituent's beliefs, anyway? I'm sure if a large number of any party's constituents were revealed to have a common trait so outwardly manifest they'd get similar treatment.
UKIP will not win outright.
[QUOTE=himlok;44862926]For example, watch the video I posted above. Pat Condell can be over the top, but that in video alone he makes solid points about the BBC.
Do you watch Sunday Politics, or any other show where UKIP get a bit of coverage? They are lambasted with questions about "candidate said X, candidate said Y" rather than grilling them on policy, and policy is what matters here folks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and their policies are fucking terrible so for that alone I wouldn't vote on them, on top of the racist crap.
no
[QUOTE=himlok;44863286]The other three major parties have had the same 'racist crap'. You sound like your own type of extreme! :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stopper;44861733]Let's examine their 2014 manifesto:
-Immigration must be controlled
-We need more police on the streets, cracking down on crime and
anti-social behaviour
-Leave the EU
-End wasteful EU and UK subsidies to ‘renewable energy scams’,
such as wind turbines and solar farms
-No votes for prisoners
-Remove the UK from the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights
-The law of the land must apply to us all. We oppose any other system of law
-Teach children positive messages and pride in their country. We want to unite through better integration (?????????????????????)
Beautiful.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but what kind of shit are you talking? they have bad policies. You want to talk about another parties policies? Okay, but this is about UKIP's policies which suck and are terrible. Unless you want to rebuttal that statement, you have nothing to add to the conversation.
drbbbbbbbbbbb
[QUOTE=himlok;44863578]Clearly you didn't read my post, and aren't quite 'topped up' on British politics as much as you'd like to be. I said the other parties have had candidates which are racist and have said racist things.
Did you read the local manifesto? Did you actually read it with your own eyes, not someone else who has chopped and cropped it to oblivion for political advantage?[/QUOTE]
The other parties don't base their entire policy on "fuck darkies and poor people". UKIP have been running on the anti-EU policies the entire campaign, because they know a ton of people aren't educated on the EU enough to realise what more it brings other than "filthy poles taking our jobs". Massive limitation of immigration and fairly isolationist policy on top of the [B]massive[/B] nationalist sentiment screams xenophobia and unfounded fear of other cultures than our own.
To deny that UKIP as a party is not racist is naive and frankly quite blind.
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